(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr )
I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that.
Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure.
I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out?
Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]]
I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr )
I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that.
Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure.
I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out?
Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]] _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can.
Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too...
Cary
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com wrote:
I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr )
I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that.
Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure.
I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out?
Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]] _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Hi Cary,
Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, it does not seem practical.
*--*
*Moheen* [[User:Moheen]] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can.
Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too...
Cary
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu < amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr )
I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that.
Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure.
I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out?
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Hi Cary,
Thanks for trying to bring this Flickr group back to life!
I don’t use use either the Commons or Flickr as much as I'd like to, but I’ve been an editor/user on both sites for a long time and I’m happy to be added as a moderator to the Commons group on Flickr.
Caroline: as far as I can tell, Flickr will let you search *for* CC-* or (for Commons purposes) CC licenses that allow commercial reuse within a group [1], but not the inverse. I wonder if there’s some way we could throw all 23.5k photos into the moderation queue, then automatically moderate the 14k photos that have the right license so we can figure out what to do with the others. We should probably send Flickr a feature request for an enforced restriction that “photos submitted to this group must have one of these licenses”, even though that’s unlikely to be implemented any time soon.
The Flickr API does have an endpoint that lets you download all the photo metadata from a group, including the license [2]. I don’t think it would be too hard to write a Python script that downloads all that information into a spreadsheet that we can stick on Google Drive to coordinate our efforts or something, but I won’t have the time to do that for several weeks or months :(
Cheers, Gaurav (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaurav)
[1] https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&co... [2] https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos
On Sep 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Caroline Ford caroline.ford.work@gmail.com wrote:
Can we do a search on CC licenses to pull out incompatible ones?
Once we’ve handled the backlog it should be easier to manage the daily additions.
Caroline Sent from a mobile device.
On 20 Sep 2024, at 12:43, Moheen Reeyad moheenreeyad@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, it does not seem practical.
-- Moheen [[User:Moheen]] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass <bastique@bastique.com mailto:bastique@bastique.com> wrote:
I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can.
Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too...
Cary
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu <amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass <bastique@bastique.com mailto:bastique@bastique.com> wrote:
(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr) I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that. Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure. I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out? Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]] _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I can do that job
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 2:23 PM Gaurav Vaidya gaurav@ggvaidya.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thanks for trying to bring this Flickr group back to life!
I don’t use use either the Commons or Flickr as much as I'd like to, but I’ve been an editor/user on both sites for a long time and I’m happy to be added as a moderator to the Commons group on Flickr.
Caroline: as far as I can tell, Flickr will let you search *for* CC-* or (for Commons purposes) CC licenses that allow commercial reuse within a group [1], but not the inverse. I wonder if there’s some way we could throw all 23.5k photos into the moderation queue, then automatically moderate the 14k photos that have the right license so we can figure out what to do with the others. We should probably send Flickr a feature request for an enforced restriction that “photos submitted to this group must have one of these licenses”, even though that’s unlikely to be implemented any time soon.
The Flickr API does have an endpoint that lets you download all the photo metadata from a group, including the license [2]. I don’t think it would be too hard to write a Python script that downloads all that information into a spreadsheet that we can stick on Google Drive to coordinate our efforts or something, but I won’t have the time to do that for several weeks or months :(
Cheers, Gaurav (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaurav)
[1] https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&co...
[2] https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos
On Sep 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Caroline Ford caroline.ford.work@gmail.com wrote:
Can we do a search on CC licenses to pull out incompatible ones?
Once we’ve handled the backlog it should be easier to manage the daily additions.
Caroline Sent from a mobile device.
On 20 Sep 2024, at 12:43, Moheen Reeyad moheenreeyad@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, it does not seem practical.
*--*
*Moheen* [[User:Moheen]] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can.
Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too...
Cary
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu < amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr ) I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that. Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure. I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out? Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]] _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Gabriel:
I admire your willingness. Please provide me with your username and your account on Flickr. Please make sure your commons User page links to your Flickr account.
Best regards, Cary (Bastique)
On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 5:41 AM Gabriel Joe Amuzu amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com wrote:
I can do that job
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 2:23 PM Gaurav Vaidya gaurav@ggvaidya.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thanks for trying to bring this Flickr group back to life!
I don’t use use either the Commons or Flickr as much as I'd like to, but I’ve been an editor/user on both sites for a long time and I’m happy to be added as a moderator to the Commons group on Flickr.
Caroline: as far as I can tell, Flickr will let you search *for* CC-* or (for Commons purposes) CC licenses that allow commercial reuse within a group [1], but not the inverse. I wonder if there’s some way we could throw all 23.5k photos into the moderation queue, then automatically moderate the 14k photos that have the right license so we can figure out what to do with the others. We should probably send Flickr a feature request for an enforced restriction that “photos submitted to this group must have one of these licenses”, even though that’s unlikely to be implemented any time soon.
The Flickr API does have an endpoint that lets you download all the photo metadata from a group, including the license [2]. I don’t think it would be too hard to write a Python script that downloads all that information into a spreadsheet that we can stick on Google Drive to coordinate our efforts or something, but I won’t have the time to do that for several weeks or months :(
Cheers, Gaurav (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaurav)
[1] https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&co...
[2] https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos
On Sep 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Caroline Ford caroline.ford.work@gmail.com wrote:
Can we do a search on CC licenses to pull out incompatible ones?
Once we’ve handled the backlog it should be easier to manage the daily additions.
Caroline Sent from a mobile device.
On 20 Sep 2024, at 12:43, Moheen Reeyad moheenreeyad@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, it does not seem practical.
*--*
*Moheen* [[User:Moheen]] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can.
Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too...
Cary
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu < amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr ) I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that. Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure. I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out? Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]] _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Hi Cary and all,
How could the Flickr group contribute significantly to Commons in the long run? Does it connect to the Flickypedia project and/or the Commons Photographers User Group? 23.5k photos is a good start, but Commons has over 100m photos now.
Thanks, Mike
On 23/09/2024 20:27, Cary Bass wrote:
Gabriel:
I admire your willingness. Please provide me with your username and your account on Flickr. Please make sure your commons User page links to your Flickr account.
Best regards, Cary (Bastique)
On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 5:41 AM Gabriel Joe Amuzu <amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> wrote:
I can do that job On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 2:23 PM Gaurav Vaidya <gaurav@ggvaidya.com <mailto:gaurav@ggvaidya.com>> wrote: Hi Cary, Thanks for trying to bring this Flickr group back to life! I don’t use use either the Commons or Flickr as much as I'd like to, but I’ve been an editor/user on both sites for a long time and I’m happy to be added as a moderator to the Commons group on Flickr. Caroline: as far as I can tell, Flickr will let you search *for* CC-* or (for Commons purposes) CC licenses that allow commercial reuse within a group [1], but not the inverse. I wonder if there’s some way we could throw all 23.5k photos into the moderation queue, then automatically moderate the 14k photos that have the right license so we can figure out what to do with the others. We should probably send Flickr a feature request for an enforced restriction that “photos submitted to this group must have one of these licenses”, even though that’s unlikely to be implemented any time soon. The Flickr API does have an endpoint that lets you download all the photo metadata from a group, including the license [2]. I don’t think it would be too hard to write a Python script that downloads all that information into a spreadsheet that we can stick on Google Drive to coordinate our efforts or something, but I won’t have the time to do that for several weeks or months :( Cheers, Gaurav (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya <https://www.flickr.com/ photos/ggvaidya> and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ User:Gaurav <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaurav>) [1] https://www.flickr.com/search/? group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&content_types=0&video_content_types=0%2C1%2C2%2C3&license=4%2C5%2C6%2C9%2C10 <https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&content_types=0&video_content_types=0%2C1%2C2%2C3&license=4%2C5%2C6%2C9%2C10> [2] https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/ flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos <https://www.flickr.com/services/ api/explore/flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos>On Sep 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Caroline Ford <caroline.ford.work@gmail.com <mailto:caroline.ford.work@gmail.com>> wrote: Can we do a search on CC licenses to pull out incompatible ones? Once we’ve handled the backlog it should be easier to manage the daily additions. Caroline Sent from a mobile device.On 20 Sep 2024, at 12:43, Moheen Reeyad <moheenreeyad@gmail.com <mailto:moheenreeyad@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Cary, Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, it does not seem practical. *--* *Moheen * [[User:Moheen]] <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen> On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass <bastique@bastique.com <mailto:bastique@bastique.com>> wrote: I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can. Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too... Cary On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu <amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com <mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com>> wrote: I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request. On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass <bastique@bastique.com <mailto:bastique@bastique.com>> wrote: (cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr> and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr>) I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group <https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00> on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that. Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure. I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out? 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Mike:
To be honest, I think it's less about files and more about userbase, connecting Flickr users with Wikimedia Commons and Commons users with Flickr. Flickr is about exposure (where you can freely license your content) and Commons is about free use (where your content can get exposed). Personally I think they make a good complement to one another.
Also, this is the first time I've heard of the Flickypedia project? Odd considering I'm reasonably active on both sites. So no, it doesn't connect. But it probably should.
I've sent an email to Flickr about helping to clean up the group, though.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM Mike Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
Hi Cary and all,
How could the Flickr group contribute significantly to Commons in the long run? Does it connect to the Flickypedia project and/or the Commons Photographers User Group? 23.5k photos is a good start, but Commons has over 100m photos now.
Thanks, Mike
On 23/09/2024 20:27, Cary Bass wrote:
Gabriel:
I admire your willingness. Please provide me with your username and your account on Flickr. Please make sure your commons User page links to your Flickr account.
Best regards, Cary (Bastique)
On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 5:41 AM Gabriel Joe Amuzu <amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> wrote:
I can do that job On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 2:23 PM Gaurav Vaidya <gaurav@ggvaidya.com <mailto:gaurav@ggvaidya.com>> wrote: Hi Cary, Thanks for trying to bring this Flickr group back to life! I don’t use use either the Commons or Flickr as much as I'd like to, but I’ve been an editor/user on both sites for a long time and I’m happy to be added as a moderator to the Commons group on Flickr. Caroline: as far as I can tell, Flickr will let you search *for* CC-* or (for Commons purposes) CC licenses that allow commercial reuse within a group [1], but not the inverse. I wonder if there’s some way we could throw all 23.5k photos into the moderation queue, then automatically moderate the 14k photos that have the right license so we can figure out what to do with the others. We should probably send Flickr a feature request for an enforced restriction that “photos submitted to this group must have one of these licenses”, even though that’s unlikely to be implemented any time soon. The Flickr API does have an endpoint that lets you download all the photo metadata from a group, including the license [2]. I don’t think it would be too hard to write a Python script that downloads all that information into a spreadsheet that we can stick on Google Drive to coordinate our efforts or something, but I won’t have the time to do that for several weeks or months:(
Cheers, Gaurav (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya <https://www.flickr.com/ photos/ggvaidya> and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ User:Gaurav <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaurav>) [1] https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&content_types=0&video_content_types=0%2C1%2C2%2C3&license=4%2C5%2C6%2C9%2C10 < https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&co...
[2] https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/ flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos <https://www.flickr.com/services/ api/explore/flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos>On Sep 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Caroline Ford <caroline.ford.work@gmail.com <mailto:caroline.ford.work@gmail.com>> wrote: Can we do a search on CC licenses to pull out incompatible ones? Once we’ve handled the backlog it should be easier to manage the daily additions. Caroline Sent from a mobile device.On 20 Sep 2024, at 12:43, Moheen Reeyad <moheenreeyad@gmail.com <mailto:moheenreeyad@gmail.com>>wrote:
Hi Cary, Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, it does not seem practical. *--* *Moheen * [[User:Moheen]] <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen%3E
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass <bastique@bastique.com <mailto:bastique@bastique.com>> wrote: I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can. Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too... Cary On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu <amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com <mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com>> wrote: I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request. On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass <bastique@bastique.com <mailto:bastique@bastique.com>> wrote: (cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr> and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commo...
)
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Good answer. :)
For Flickypedia, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Flickypedia .
Thanks, Mike
On 23/09/2024 23:06, Cary Bass wrote:
Mike:
To be honest, I think it's less about files and more about userbase, connecting Flickr users with Wikimedia Commons and Commons users with Flickr. Flickr is about exposure (where you can freely license your content) and Commons is about free use (where your content can get exposed). Personally I think they make a good complement to one another.
Also, this is the first time I've heard of the Flickypedia project? Odd considering I'm reasonably active on both sites. So no, it doesn't connect. But it probably should.
I've sent an email to Flickr about helping to clean up the group, though.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM Mike Peel <email@mikepeel.net mailto:email@mikepeel.net> wrote:
Hi Cary and all, How could the Flickr group contribute significantly to Commons in the long run? Does it connect to the Flickypedia project and/or the Commons Photographers User Group? 23.5k photos is a good start, but Commons has over 100m photos now. Thanks, Mike On 23/09/2024 20:27, Cary Bass wrote: > Gabriel: > > I admire your willingness. Please provide me with your username and > your account on Flickr. Please make sure your commons User page links to > your Flickr account. > > Best regards, > Cary (Bastique) > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 5:41 AM Gabriel Joe Amuzu > <amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com <mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> <mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com <mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > I can do that job > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 2:23 PM Gaurav Vaidya <gaurav@ggvaidya.com <mailto:gaurav@ggvaidya.com> > <mailto:gaurav@ggvaidya.com <mailto:gaurav@ggvaidya.com>>> wrote: > > Hi Cary, > > Thanks for trying to bring this Flickr group back to life! > > I don’t use use either the Commons or Flickr as much as I'd like > to, but I’ve been an editor/user on both sites for a long time > and I’m happy to be added as a moderator to the Commons group on > Flickr. > > Caroline: as far as I can tell, Flickr will let you search *for* > CC-* or (for Commons purposes) CC licenses that allow commercial > reuse within a group [1], but not the inverse. I wonder if > there’s some way we could throw all 23.5k photos into the > moderation queue, then automatically moderate the 14k photos > that have the right license so we can figure out what to do with > the others. We should probably send Flickr a feature request for > an enforced restriction that “photos submitted to this group > must have one of these licenses”, even though that’s unlikely to > be implemented any time soon. > > The Flickr API does have an endpoint that lets you download all > the photo metadata from a group, including the license [2]. I > don’t think it would be too hard to write a Python script that > downloads all that information into a spreadsheet that we can > stick on Google Drive to coordinate our efforts or something, > but I won’t have the time to do that for several weeks or months :( > > Cheers, > Gaurav > (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya <https:// www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya> <https://www.flickr.com/ <https:// www.flickr.com/> > photos/ggvaidya> and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/> > User:Gaurav <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ User:Gaurav <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaurav>>) > > [1] https://www.flickr.com/search/ <https:// www.flickr.com/search/>? > group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&content_types=0&video_content_types=0%2C1%2C2%2C3&license=4%2C5%2C6%2C9%2C10 <https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&content_types=0&video_content_types=0%2C1%2C2%2C3&license=4%2C5%2C6%2C9%2C10 <https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&content_types=0&video_content_types=0%2C1%2C2%2C3&license=4%2C5%2C6%2C9%2C10>> > [2] https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/ <https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/> > flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos <https://www.flickr.com/ services/ <https://www.flickr.com/services/> > api/explore/flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos> > >> On Sep 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Caroline Ford >> <caroline.ford.work@gmail.com <mailto:caroline.ford.work@gmail.com> >> <mailto:caroline.ford.work@gmail.com <mailto:caroline.ford.work@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> >> Can we do a search on CC licenses to pull out incompatible ones? >> >> Once we’ve handled the backlog it should be easier to manage >> the daily additions. >> >> Caroline >> Sent from a mobile device. >> >>> On 20 Sep 2024, at 12:43, Moheen Reeyad >>> <moheenreeyad@gmail.com <mailto:moheenreeyad@gmail.com> <mailto:moheenreeyad@gmail.com <mailto:moheenreeyad@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Cary, >>> >>> Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing >>> the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have >>> more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I >>> wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images >>> that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, >>> it does not seem practical. >>> >>> *--* >>> *Moheen >>> * >>> [[User:Moheen]] <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ User:Moheen <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass >>> <bastique@bastique.com <mailto:bastique@bastique.com> <mailto:bastique@bastique.com <mailto:bastique@bastique.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to >>> remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible >>> with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos >>> with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them >>> but honestly, some of these people are just submitting >>> photos to every group they can. >>> >>> Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of >>> Commons, probably remove those too... >>> >>> Cary >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu >>> <amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com <mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> >>> <mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com <mailto:amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request. >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass >>> <bastique@bastique.com <mailto:bastique@bastique.com> >>> <mailto:bastique@bastique.com <mailto:bastique@bastique.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> (cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump >>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/> >>> Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr> and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons <https:// commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr>>) >>> I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group >>> <https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 <https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00>> on >>> Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no >>> moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick >>> in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick >>> on Commons) I'm hoping to change that. >>> Photographs in the group ought to be able to be >>> readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby >>> having a free license. People who sign up for the >>> group agree to that rule. However, currently >>> numerous people are just sharing photographs that >>> they share on numerous other groups for exposure. >>> I do not have the bandwidth to moderate >>> completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a >>> regular Flickr user that would be willing and >>> able to help out? >>> Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Commons-l mailing list -- commons- >>> l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:l@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:commons- <mailto:commons-> >>> l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:l@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l- >>> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:commons-l- <mailto:commons-l-> >>> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Commons-l mailing list -- commons- >>> l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:l@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:commons- <mailto:commons-> >>> l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:l@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l- >>> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:commons-l- <mailto:commons-l-> >>> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Commons-l mailing list -- commons- l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l- >>> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:commons-l- <mailto:commons-l-> >>> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons- l@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l- >>> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:commons-l- <mailto:commons-l-> >>> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons- l@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l- >> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:commons-l- <mailto:commons-l-> >> leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons- l@lists.wikimedia.org>> > To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l- > leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:commons-l- <mailto:commons-l-> > leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:leave@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons- l@lists.wikimedia.org>> > To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l- leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons- l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l- leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org> _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org>
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Guarev: I sent you an invitation to submit one of your photographs to the group. Don't worry about the picture, but in order to make you a moderator you have to be a member.
Thanks, Cary (Bastique)
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 7:23 AM Gaurav Vaidya gaurav@ggvaidya.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thanks for trying to bring this Flickr group back to life!
I don’t use use either the Commons or Flickr as much as I'd like to, but I’ve been an editor/user on both sites for a long time and I’m happy to be added as a moderator to the Commons group on Flickr.
Caroline: as far as I can tell, Flickr will let you search *for* CC-* or (for Commons purposes) CC licenses that allow commercial reuse within a group [1], but not the inverse. I wonder if there’s some way we could throw all 23.5k photos into the moderation queue, then automatically moderate the 14k photos that have the right license so we can figure out what to do with the others. We should probably send Flickr a feature request for an enforced restriction that “photos submitted to this group must have one of these licenses”, even though that’s unlikely to be implemented any time soon.
The Flickr API does have an endpoint that lets you download all the photo metadata from a group, including the license [2]. I don’t think it would be too hard to write a Python script that downloads all that information into a spreadsheet that we can stick on Google Drive to coordinate our efforts or something, but I won’t have the time to do that for several weeks or months :(
Cheers, Gaurav (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaurav)
[1] https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&co...
[2] https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos
On Sep 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Caroline Ford caroline.ford.work@gmail.com wrote:
Can we do a search on CC licenses to pull out incompatible ones?
Once we’ve handled the backlog it should be easier to manage the daily additions.
Caroline Sent from a mobile device.
On 20 Sep 2024, at 12:43, Moheen Reeyad moheenreeyad@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, it does not seem practical.
*--*
*Moheen* [[User:Moheen]] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can.
Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too...
Cary
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu < amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr ) I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that. Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure. I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out? Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]] _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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My user name is Amuzu Gabriel Joe. Okay I will check and get back to you.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 7:26 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
Guarev: I sent you an invitation to submit one of your photographs to the group. Don't worry about the picture, but in order to make you a moderator you have to be a member.
Thanks, Cary (Bastique)
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 7:23 AM Gaurav Vaidya gaurav@ggvaidya.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thanks for trying to bring this Flickr group back to life!
I don’t use use either the Commons or Flickr as much as I'd like to, but I’ve been an editor/user on both sites for a long time and I’m happy to be added as a moderator to the Commons group on Flickr.
Caroline: as far as I can tell, Flickr will let you search *for* CC-* or (for Commons purposes) CC licenses that allow commercial reuse within a group [1], but not the inverse. I wonder if there’s some way we could throw all 23.5k photos into the moderation queue, then automatically moderate the 14k photos that have the right license so we can figure out what to do with the others. We should probably send Flickr a feature request for an enforced restriction that “photos submitted to this group must have one of these licenses”, even though that’s unlikely to be implemented any time soon.
The Flickr API does have an endpoint that lets you download all the photo metadata from a group, including the license [2]. I don’t think it would be too hard to write a Python script that downloads all that information into a spreadsheet that we can stick on Google Drive to coordinate our efforts or something, but I won’t have the time to do that for several weeks or months :(
Cheers, Gaurav (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ggvaidya and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gaurav)
[1] https://www.flickr.com/search/?group_id=30009679%40N00&view_all=1&co...
[2] https://www.flickr.com/services/api/explore/flickr.groups.pools.getPhotos
On Sep 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Caroline Ford caroline.ford.work@gmail.com wrote:
Can we do a search on CC licenses to pull out incompatible ones?
Once we’ve handled the backlog it should be easier to manage the daily additions.
Caroline Sent from a mobile device.
On 20 Sep 2024, at 12:43, Moheen Reeyad moheenreeyad@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cary,
Thank you for bringing this up and your efforts in managing the Wikimedia Commons Group on Flickr. Currently, we have more than 28.1K photos of the Flickr group. In that case, I wish there was any tool that could prevent uploading images that are not incompatible with CC licenses. By human effort, it does not seem practical.
*--*
*Moheen* [[User:Moheen]] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Moheen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 6:40 AM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
I'm looking for people to help moderate the group to remove photographs that don't have licenses compatible with Commons, and remove users who repeatedly add photos with incorrect licenses. Maybe leave a message for them but honestly, some of these people are just submitting photos to every group they can.
Also, if something falls completely outside the scope of Commons, probably remove those too...
Cary
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:36 PM Gabriel Joe Amuzu < amuzugabrieljoe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use flicker but i am unclear about your. request.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 8:44 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
(cross posted from Commons talk:Village Pump https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr and Commons talk:Flickr files - Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Flickr_files#Wikimedia_Commons_group_on_Flickr ) I'm an admin of the Wikimedia Commons Group https://www.flickr.com/groups/30009679@N00 on Flickr, a group that has, up until now, had no moderation for numerous years. Given my uptick in activity on Flickr (resulting from my uptick on Commons) I'm hoping to change that. Photographs in the group ought to be able to be readily able to be ported to Commons, thereby having a free license. People who sign up for the group agree to that rule. However, currently numerous people are just sharing photographs that they share on numerous other groups for exposure. I do not have the bandwidth to moderate completely on my own. Is anyone else currently a regular Flickr user that would be willing and able to help out? Cary Bass-Deschenes [[User:Bastique]] _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list -- commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to commons-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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So I did hear back from Flickr:
I understand that your group has a large amount of photos added that do not meet the requirements of the group, and you (along with your other active admin) are trying to remove these. Unfortunately, we do not have a back-end process to help expedite this. The only way for a group to be managed is by its administrators and using the manual process you're familiar with. In this situation, I might recommend trying to recruit more active group members to help, and promote them to the admin role. I'm sorry I don't have better news! If there is anything else I can help with, please feel free to ask.
So that's the bad news.
The good news (depending on how you look at it) is that the biggest contributor to the Wikimedia Commons group on Flickr with over 4,000 photos released their pictures under an unfree license, thereby dramatically cutting down the number of pictures we have to sort through. In fact, we may be able to remove people wholesale who do not contribute using a free license, and that, I believe, will allow us to remove their photographs as well.
Cary [[User:Bastique]]
Oh, and I emailed said user a couple of weeks ago and they did not respond.
Cary
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 12:15 PM Cary Bass bastique@bastique.com wrote:
So I did hear back from Flickr:
I understand that your group has a large amount of photos added that do not meet the requirements of the group, and you (along with your other active admin) are trying to remove these. Unfortunately, we do not have a back-end process to help expedite this. The only way for a group to be managed is by its administrators and using the manual process you're familiar with. In this situation, I might recommend trying to recruit more active group members to help, and promote them to the admin role. I'm sorry I don't have better news! If there is anything else I can help with, please feel free to ask.
So that's the bad news.
The good news (depending on how you look at it) is that the biggest contributor to the Wikimedia Commons group on Flickr with over 4,000 photos released their pictures under an unfree license, thereby dramatically cutting down the number of pictures we have to sort through. In fact, we may be able to remove people wholesale who do not contribute using a free license, and that, I believe, will allow us to remove their photographs as well.
Cary [[User:Bastique]]