I do not think this is good enough to celebrate. I'd welcome a tool that would allow us to move properly licensed free images from wikipedias to commons. Now I'd celebrate then. - Cool Cat On 12/10/06, Brianna Laugher <brianna.laugher(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Is there a way, to have the one-click upload feature in the ImportFreeImages extension made available in the pushforcommons as well? -Bence

On 13/12/06, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote: I will continue to push very strongly that any toolserver-based tool, which does not require any kind of Wikimiedia login, should never allow essentially anonymous uploads to Commons, as this would. Many, many many Wikimedia wikis have lax, nonexistent or not-inforced image use policies. If we were to enable this all sorts of shit would be transferred and we would have no way of even identifying who had transferred it. All the cleanup and even no one specific to blame. ;) Not cool. So probably any tool like this should be part of MediaWiki. So we know what that means, chaps: settle in for a good long wait, or else write it yourself (and then settle back for that wait anyway...). cheers, Brianna user:pfctdayelise

Well you could start by giving the one-click upload feature to admins on a local wiki, and maybe storing the uploaders name in a database, so it can be traced... Bence On 12/13/06, Artur Fijałkowski <wiki.warx(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/13/06, Bryan Tong Minh <bryan.tongminh(a)gmail.com> wrote: I already thought about extending commonshelper so it accepts commons user name and password. The upload bot could then use that for uploading. Of course, any user of the tool then would have to give this information to my tools, without knowing what else I do with that (I won't, of course, but short of the toolserver admins, noone can actually confirm that). OTOH, as long as I keep it optional, would such a mechanism be acceptable? Magnus

On 14/12/06, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote: Is there any other toolserver tool that requests or uses user's passwords? I really dislike the idea. I don't think the convenience outweighs the possible security problems and I don't think we should keep putting bricks onto temporary solutions: obviously the function should be performed by MediaWiki. But then, we already rely on CheckUsage, so... sigh... Another possibility is that we ask for upload-from-url to be enabled on Commons. (I can't remember if it is an actual feature yet or just a mooted one.) Then CommonsHelper could be more or less single click, right? It has been suggested that allowing upload-from-url will bring torrents of copyvios. Undoubtedly it will, but we get torrents of copyvios already. Upload-from-url should allow us to track the true origin of images much more easily (assuming that info is made available!). At the moment it is a lot of guesswork and hunches. cheers Brianna

We need a tool that runs on wikimedia servers, not toolserv. I want to mass move an entire category (pd-old for instance). Toolserv move method creates a duplicate of the image, uses too much bandwidth and hence is not efficient. Images are already on wikipedia servers, no need to involve toolserv. The assumption is of course that images are not copyvios. I think we should worry less about "what ifs". Eventually all images will have to be reviewed, I prefer that review being done on commons by the 'real' experts. Of course there is the third question of potential abuse... I think such a tool should be only used by say stewards whom are trusted everywhere. We would make bulk moves from time to time only anyways. Oh and before anyone asks, if a moved image is not free enough for commons it can always be moved back to the local project - Cool Cat On 12/14/06, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote: