Categorization of these images seems to be a big problem. Category names shouldn't be in Italian.
Ankry
W dniu 2016-04-08 17:15:20 użytkownik Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com napisał:
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Nemo-BEIC
-------- Messaggio inoltrato -------- Oggetto: [cultural-partners] Biggest donation of photos in Italy - Paolo Monti (BEIC) Data: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 16:26:20 +0200 Mittente: marcok
Hi to all, I’m the Wikipedian in residence at the digital library of Fondazione BEIC, Milan, Italy.
In the last days we at BEIC are uploading almost the entire photo archive of a notable Italian photographer, Paolo Monti, counting 15.000 images. The whole archive was acquired by Fondazione BEIC in 2008.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Paolo_Monti
For what I know, this is the biggest donation of images in one shot ever made in Italy. It’s also the first time that a digital archive from a famous photographer is almost completely uploaded into Commons.
This notable result was possible thanks to the long-lasting collaboration between BEIC and Wikimedia Italia, started in 2014, and also thanks to the technical assistance of Federico Leva aka Nemo, the previous WiR at BEIC, now GLAM specialist at Wikimedia Italia.
The photos of the Paolo Monti archive represent a variety of subjects (art, events, architecture, people, portraits, nature, artistic nudes, experimental) and were shot since 1950s to 1980s. Many of them are B/W, but there are also many fascinating colourful artistic/experimental pictures.
We are now beginning to work on:
- fixing categories (often translating the basic original italian
keywords into english Commons categories) and providing a more detailed categorization
- inserting useful images into Wikipedia articles (in italian, english
and other languages)
- selecting the best photos to candidate them as "featured pictures”
in Wikimedia Commons (only those with 2 Megapixel or more).
Please help us, this is a huge work! If you have any other ideas on how the images may be used, let us know!
Thank you,
Marco Chemello Wikipedian in residence, Fondazione BEIC, Milan (also Wikipedian in residence at the Science Museum, Milan)
See: http://www.beic.it/en/articles/digital-library https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BEIC https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progetto:GLAM/BEIC (main project page) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/BEIC http://www.beic.it/en/node/1969 (Fondo Paolo Monti - in Italian)
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ankry.wiki, 09/04/2016 00:10:
Categorization of these images seems to be a big problem. Category names shouldn't be in Italian.
They will not be, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BEIC#Work_in_progress .
Nemo-BEIC
There has been a lot of non-positive community feedback about categorization. The plan that there are 5,000 red-link categories that now need mapping/moving seems unrealistic in the short term,[1] considering the relatively small active population of volunteers interested in spending their time doing it. It's something that could have been predicted and circumvented before upload, and it's not an approach for batch uploads that should be thought of as normal - imagine the fuss if this were 100,000 images or a million!
It strikes me that Commons' norms for larger batch uploads are hard for newer mass uploaders to absorb, my own processes for upload projects, some over ten times bigger than this one, have evolved a lot through experimentation over the past 3 years, and I know I could never write this down in a way that would be useful, apart from pointing to past quietly successful projects that worked well and might be similar. My projects relying on non-English metadata mapping have been tricky, especially as I have no language skills, and tended to re-enforce the view that Commons' way of forcing English categories on everything, is something that ought to improve in the future. Frankly, it's equally hard to imagine how this would be implemented in a way that would not make categorization ridiculously arcane and become a barrier for newer contributors in the way that seemed to be the case for multilingual templates.
If the burndown of the category backlog stays an on-going issue, and there are more complaints over the next week or two, it would be beneficial to comment out all the red-links by bot and then leave longer term housekeeping to roll on using hidden data that then does not flood maintenance backlogs which appears the root cause of several complaints in the past week.
Links 1. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BEIC#Work_in_progress
Thanks, Fae
On 10 April 2016 at 19:20, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
ankry.wiki, 09/04/2016 00:10:
Categorization of these images seems to be a big problem. Category names shouldn't be in Italian.
They will not be, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BEIC#Work_in_progress .
Nemo-BEIC
On 11/04/16 18:27, Fæ wrote:
There has been a lot of non-positive community feedback about categorization.
I haven't been involved in this matter at all, but I want to say, as an observer, that even if the categorisation of the images is proving to be a headache, it is still very good that the images were donated.
So, thank you to the people who made the donation happen; and thank you to everyone who is now tidying up the donation and making it more usable for the community. Nobody is perfect, but all of you are wonderful!