On 05/08/07, Andrew Gray <shimgray(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Something I've seen on enwp, and I suspect
it's probably around
quietly on Commons as well - people licensing their images and then
adding (pre-emptively) a note saying "by the way, if you want to use
it for X or Y, go ahead with no strings attached, don't feel the need
to ask me permission".
That's a clearly nonfree license - should we prevent people doing this
as well? If not, where do we draw a line?
I don't quite understand what the problem here is? Is it the
implication that others should ask for permission first? Because it's
only an implication - not a fact.
I do feel it's helpful to our reusers - Commons
serving to provide
free content to the wider community as well as WMF - to list all the
possible criteria under which an image can be used, to give them
flexibility. Perhaps what we need to consider here is *emphasising*
the free license[s] - the one we use it under - and having a clearly
secondary "other reuse licenses" line?
I don't quite know what you mean -- all the criteria under which an
image can be used?
Commons accepts the Freedom Defined definition of "free-content
license" which lists what freedoms must be allowed for a license to be
considered a "free" one.
I agree that we should actively discourage people from doing this kind
of tricky thing, just as we should actively encourage people to upload
hi-res originals, and not just be content with people uploading
thumbnails or watermarked images. We should try and push the
free-content line, but I don't think that means we need to refuse
freely-licensed (but trickily managed) works when people do things
like this.
What we really need to do is find out why they think this is
necessary, and badger them into understanding it's not that cool.
Maybe their goals won't align with ours and they won't change their
mind. That's OK, we can still take their work and move on. ;)
So in line with that I think we should continue to allow 2nd or 3rd
licenses to be non-free, but we should not allow any template for this
situation. Keep the situation that people have to manually write the
non-free licenses.
Apparently templates do funny things to people's brains :)
cheers
Brianna
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