Dear all,
You may have heard of Luc Viatour, aka [[User:LViatour]] : he is one of our best contributors on Commons, has uploaded hundreds of very good quality pictures and about 30 of his pictures have received the "Featured Pictures" status.
Now someone has proposed his "copyright template" for deletion, while saying "Unless his template is moved to userspace and substed in all cases, it and all it tags (all images of Lviatour) should be deleted", which I think is very rude and aggressive. The deletion request is on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Images_of_Lviato....
Now I'm asking, what is this stupid rule about about personal copyright template ? This one (ie http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:LviatourCredit ) doesn't do any harm : 1) It includes a double license GFDL-CC-BY-SA, and that's all. 2) It tells people who is the author and how to re-use the image, which is very good (see the related discussion about people not knowing how to reuse images from Commons) 3) It says that "an email would be appreciated", which is not against the rules as it is not mandatory.
Now if we start deleting templates like this, we can surely say goodbye to our best contributors. We surely do not want people like Luc Viatour to get out from Commons, do we ?
Regards, Rémi http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Korrigan
On 8/19/07, Rémi Kaupp kaupp.remi@gmail.com wrote: [snip]
Now someone has proposed his "copyright template" for deletion, while saying
If indeed it's being handled as agressively as your message states then an error is being made.
Now I'm asking, what is this stupid rule about about personal copyright template ?
It is an important rule.
As explained on the wiki, personal license templates are fine but they must be substed. If the templates are not substed, then the licensing of all images tagged with it can suddenly be changed without anyone noticing.
Personal license templates also frequently make the commons licensing data hard for computers to read.
Simply a matter of good project orginization, personal templates should be in the users userspace.
Now if we start deleting templates like this, we can surely say goodbye to our best contributors. We surely do not want people like Luc Viatour to get out from Commons, do we ?
All the criteria you've mentioned is reasonable. It would be fine in a substed template.
Normally the way I been handling personal license templates is contacting the author, and offering to have my bot go and subst all the uses. Then the template is moved into the userspace. From there they can continue to subst it as they upload.
On 8/19/07, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
As explained on the wiki, personal license templates are fine but they must be substed. If the templates are not substed, then the licensing of all images tagged with it can suddenly be changed without anyone noticing.
Or, we could protect that user subpage?
Magnus
We could, but still... it would be easier to just subst:. :-)
On 8/19/07, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
On 8/19/07, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
As explained on the wiki, personal license templates are fine but they must be substed. If the templates are not substed, then the licensing of all images tagged with it can suddenly be changed without anyone noticing.
Or, we could protect that user subpage?
Magnus
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