On 10/16/07, Samuli Lintula samuli@samulilintula.net wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:15:26 +0300, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
OK, state of the union:
- WatchFlickr now adds {{flickrreview}} again
- CommonsHelper has a "direct upload" switch (off by default)
- Direct upload by CommonsHelper will add {{BotMoveToCommons}} with
the appropriate source language, so things will end in subcategories of [[Category:Files moved to Commons requiring review]]
An example of how it looks: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image%3ARosemary_Clooneys_hom...
I'm a bit lost in this conversation. Did any human review the license information and such before or right after the image was transferred to Commons?
Well,
- /presumably/ it was checked when it was uploaded in the original
wikipedia
- /presumably/ the guy who transfers it checked (how else does he know
the name?)
- /presumably/ the guy who transfers it checks the end result
- /presumably/ the good people at commons check it when it is transfered
IMHO that's an improvement over the "normal" upload to commons ("oh, I found a pretty image on the web, I'll upload it to commons!";-)...
If the original wikipedia image has a valid license tag, how should one check anyway? The obvious criteria are:
- Image is too large to be a thumbnail stolen from some webpage
- Image does not contain borders, logos, or "(c)" texts
- Image either has a source given (eg., nasa.gov), or
- looks amateurish enough to be made by the original uploader ;-)
Yay for reasonable doubt!
Do I detect a bit of a mocking attitude here? I don't see any reason for that. Why would we want to lose a chance to check images that are being uploaded on Commons? It is very good practice that we check if source is provided, if the source seems plausible, if permission is provided, if there is anything dubious about the image etc. We should try to check these things with fresh uploads and transfers from other projects.
If we are to presume something, I presume that local projects have at least as many copyvios or sourceless/permissionless images as Commons. That is, within the range of 10-30 %.