----- Original Message ----- From: commons-l-request@wikimedia.org To: commons-l@wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:09 PM Subject: Commons-l Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2
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Today's Topics:
- Re: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons (jfulrich@mailaka.net)
- Re: English Wikipedia (jfulrich@mailaka.net)
- Category renaming (was: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons) (Robin Schwab)
- Re: UI design on image pages (Fredrik Josefsson)
- Re: UI design on image pages (David Monniaux)
- Re: UI design on image pages (Andre Engels)
- Re: UI design on image pages (Fredrik Josefsson)
- Re: UI design on image pages (Gregory Maxwell)
- Re: UI design on image pages (David Monniaux)
- Re: UI design on image pages (David Gerard)
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:28:17 -0000 From: jfulrich@mailaka.net Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons To: commons-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 380-2200713312817223@mailaka.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
I agree.
Laleena---- Original Message ---- From: bastique@bellsouth.net To: commons-l@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:03 -0500
It must have been a mental infarction. Galleries are done using native language and redirects. Categories have generally been done in English.
> -----Original Message----- > From: commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org > [mailto:commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Brianna Laugher > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:43 PM > To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons > > > On 02/01/07, Cary Bass <bastique@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > I am fairly certain that the policy on Commons is that cities and other > > localities are in the native language. Therefore M?nchen and Praha are > > absolutely correct and the categories must be fixed. > > No... > did you ever notice [[category:??]] ? (or even worse, maybe > [[category:transport in ??]]?) > > Nobody likes enforcing English-only categories to further Anglo-saxon > supremism or the like, but until we have proper category redirects... > > regards, > Brianna > user:pfctdayelise > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list > Commons-l@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: > 1/1/2007 2:50 PM > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/1/2007 2:50 PM _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:30:21 -0000 From: jfulrich@mailaka.net Subject: Re: [Commons-l] English Wikipedia To: commons-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 380-2200713313021909@mailaka.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Any issues on Wikipedia that need correcting?
LaleenaWiki
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:58:12 +0100 From: Robin Schwab contact@robinschwab.ch Subject: [Commons-l] Category renaming (was: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons) To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List commons-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 459C26F3.5040705@robinschwab.ch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
In the recent days I noticed an increase in conflicts about category renaming. Two cases: Category:Churches_in_Italy (and others) and Category:Cities_and_villages_by_country
I think we would benefit from a formalized system for category renamings. The damage is enormous if a well working category tree gets destroyed or damaged. Currently all places worldwide are categorized as cities independent of their size!
An idea could be that there must be a deletion request for the category to be moved. What do you think of this?
Regards
Robin
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 01:15:55 +0100 (CET) From: Fredrik Josefsson fred_chessplayer@yahoo.se Subject: Re: [Commons-l] UI design on image pages To: bawolff+wn@gmail.com, Wikimedia Commons Discussion List commons-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 454826.19789.qm@web23011.mail.ird.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com skrev: Why not just edit stuff in the [[mediawiki:*]] namespace to make the uploader field more prominent in the file history? Whomever uploaded it is usually the author, and you don't need users to do the "right thing" its automatic.
-bawolff
It is difficult to implement this, as the developers have told me.
I do think that if we want to develop this free stuff concept, our software needs to be more user friendly. Wikipedia is getting big, but it is still too complicated for ordinary people to do things that should be simple, such as uploading files.
The upload form which requires the user to copy and paste a template is not something I'd expect every user to understand (for example my grandparents, but maybe not my parents either). And the current language translation of template is hardly optimal.
Fredrik.
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