Brianna Laugher schrieb:
2009/2/3 Daniel Kinzler daniel@brightbyte.de:
We should *really* push for decent metadata support in mediawiki. An appropriate extension already exists, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RDF. That extension would make it easy to generate RDF (with Dublin Core, Creative Commons and other voicabularies) for each image (and any other page).
We should request that extension as a community. If it's not quite ready for prime time, I'm sure it can be made ready.
So, what should we do, exactly? File a bug report and pile-on with comments/votes? Hold an on-wiki vote? Is there some other way of demonstrating that we consider it important?
The process for enabling an extension is: 1) have a community discussion 2) document "consensus" over wanting it 3) make a feature request on bugzilla, pointing to the conssensus 4) sever admins look at the extension 5) server admins complain about what needs to be fixed. 6) someone fixes it 7) rinse, repeat. 8) depending on how big the change it, it may go live on test.wikipedia.org first. Probably not needed here. 9) depending on how big the change is, it may take a while to get enabled. This one should be quick, I think.
3- Wikipedia doesn't have an OAI interface so we would need to look at how to ingest the data.
Use the API? http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?format=xml&action=query&gener...
It's not really that simple, is it?
Here is one imageinfo "comment":
{{BotMoveToCommons|en.wikipedia}} {{Information |Description={{en|ME}} |Source=Transferred from [http://en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia]; transferred to Commons by [[User:Fale]] using [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/commonshelper.php CommonsHelper].<br/
(yes, it ends in malformed html!)
Pretty obvious that a middle layer of "community API" is required, isn't it?
Or propert suppoer for storing property/value pairs in mediawiki. didn't we just have that discussion a few days ago?
We DO have an OAI interface: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_update_feed_service.
"A new release of the OAI client for MediaWiki 1.7, offering best compatibility with current Wikipedia data rendering, is scheduled for late July 2006." Can't wait!!
I think it exists, the page just didn't get updated. But it's relevant only of you want tu use mediawiki as a *client* to the OAI stream. It's not relevant if you just want to fetch changes. That interface exists.
Is "near-real-time" implicit in OAI? If not, and if OAI is a common standard amongst cultural institutions etc, then doesn't it make more sense to have a widely-available freely accessible OAI interface?
This is mostly used by search engines, and i think the foundation likes them to pay. Researches usually get free access. If the OAI stream should be opened up to all is something that would need to be discussed with the foundation.
-- daniel