On 8/28/07, Fredrik Josefsson fjosefsson@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have any evidence that it will lose good people? If an admin has hardly used his tools in 5 months I find it likely that he doesn't bother much. It is then better to promote new admins who actually want to do something for real and not just hypothetically in some future.
However, I find it unfortunate that the quick regain of adminship within 24 hours didn't go through. I think the arguments against the de-adminship policy would have been significantly less then. In the event that someone wants to re-connect, they would then only have to wait 24 hours, which should be acceptable, no?
Regards, Fred
On 8/26/07, GerardM gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, When there is a need to be an admin and DO something, you will either have the buttons and DO the things that need doing or you forget about it. The point of keeping the role of admin is that it is easy to re-connect. The point of being forced to ask to be admin is that the chance of not bothering any more is exactly the reason why this is a bad policy for Commons. You lose good people in this way. Thanks, GerardM
If you lose admin rights due to never using the tools, what's the big
deal?
You wouldn't miss them at all, since you never used them, and if you suddenly decided you wanted to, you can always ask for them back. No point in keeping the status for no reason (much like the many inactive
bureaucrats
on enwiki.)
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I personally fail to see the problems with the policy. If you want to stay admin, but have been inactive lately, you 1) take 5 minutes to read up changes in deletion policies and 2) take 5 minutes and go delete 10 copyright violations or close 10 deletion requests.
This has 2 advantages: You help the overloaded active admins in reducing the backlogs and you become up to date with Commons again. It really only takes 10 minutes and you have your adminship back for 6 months.
Now of course I encourage you to not leave it with only a handful of deletions. Especially our deletion requests are horribly backlogged: We still have to close them up to May. So if you are reading this as admin who is about to lose his adminship, don't hesitate and go to [[Commons:Deletion requests/2007/05]] and [[Commons:Deletion requests/2007/06]]. Your help will be greatly appreciated.