On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:16:37 -0700, "Matthew Brown" morven@gmail.com said:
On 8/12/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
I do not see what's wrong with this. I set up this policy on meta a long time ago, because I felt it is non sense to stay admin when one does not need the tool and never come to the site. It is written in the policy and I consider that when someone ask to become admin on a site, one knows the policy attached to the status. In the over 2 years this has been implemented, I read no significant complain.
I've seen some complaints. Perhaps not too many because frankly fewer people are as interested in Meta or need it for their day-to-day work on a Wikimedia project.
Personally I consider the Meta policy excellent and in the proposed admin policy (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators/Adminship_policy) I would like to see a form on confirmation on Commons.
Anyone removed can also ask to be reinstated.
I note that this part seems now to be controversial on Commons. Or at least, that it should be near automatic, and not require reconfirmation.
The link above shows that Commons is working towards this and simplifying the return to tools for those who do relinquish them. In pratice an ex-Admin had the tools restored in 24 hours on Commons a couple of weeks ago - no one objected.
I do not know why you say that users are not notified. I was one of the persons concerned by the deadminship on commons, and I received a notification on my talk page. I was informed.
Notified that the policy change was up for vote. I believe the low voting numbers show that not many people even knew it was up for discussion. It isn't that hard to post something to this mailing list, or to place a sitenotice or similar.
I would have no problem with policy about total inactivity. What I do have an issue about is that it requires regular admin action, not simply user action.
-Matt
Surely the onus is on any of us who consider ourselves active to watch what is going on - if I miss any discussion I do not see why someone should feel oblidged to point it out to me?
As to the fact that it is now admin actions thta are in focus - that was the issue the community felt was at the core of this. Admin tools are janitorial in nature - they are for using. When folk need them they should be able to get them and when they no longer use them they should be relinquished (but be able to get them back if they return to activity).
Herby
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