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> 1. Re: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons (jfulrich(a)mailaka.net)
> 2. Re: English Wikipedia (jfulrich(a)mailaka.net)
> 3. Category renaming (was: Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons)
> (Robin Schwab)
> 4. Re: UI design on image pages (Fredrik Josefsson)
> 5. Re: UI design on image pages (David Monniaux)
> 6. Re: UI design on image pages (Andre Engels)
> 7. Re: UI design on image pages (Fredrik Josefsson)
> 8. Re: UI design on image pages (Gregory Maxwell)
> 9. Re: UI design on image pages (David Monniaux)
> 10. Re: UI design on image pages (David Gerard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:28:17 -0000
> From: jfulrich(a)mailaka.net
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons
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> I agree.
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> Laleena
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> From: bastique(a)bellsouth.net
> To: commons-l(a)wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons
> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:03 -0500
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>>It must have been a mental infarction. Galleries are done using
>>native
>>language and redirects. Categories have generally been done in
>>English.
>>
>>~~~~ (Cary)
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>>> [mailto:commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Brianna
>>Laugher
>>> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:43 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Anglo-Saxonisation of the commons
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>>>
>>> On 02/01/07, Cary Bass <bastique(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> > I am fairly certain that the policy on Commons is that cities and
>>other
>>> > localities are in the native language. Therefore M?nchen and
>>Praha are
>>> > absolutely correct and the categories must be fixed.
>>>
>>> No...
>>> did you ever notice [[category:??]] ? (or even worse, maybe
>>> [[category:transport in ??]]?)
>>>
>>> Nobody likes enforcing English-only categories to further
>>Anglo-saxon
>>> supremism or the like, but until we have proper category
>>redirects...
>>>
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>>> Brianna
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:30:21 -0000
> From: jfulrich(a)mailaka.net
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] English Wikipedia
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> Any issues on Wikipedia that need correcting?
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> LaleenaWiki
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:58:12 +0100
> From: Robin Schwab <contact(a)robinschwab.ch>
> Subject: [Commons-l] Category renaming (was: Anglo-Saxonisation of the
> commons)
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> In the recent days I noticed an increase in conflicts about category
> renaming. Two cases: Category:Churches_in_Italy (and others) and
> Category:Cities_and_villages_by_country
>
> I think we would benefit from a formalized system for category
> renamings. The damage is enormous if a well working category tree gets
> destroyed or damaged. Currently all places worldwide are categorized as
> cities independent of their size!
>
> An idea could be that there must be a deletion request for the category
> to be moved. What do you think of this?
>
> Regards
>
> Robin
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> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 01:15:55 +0100 (CET)
> From: Fredrik Josefsson <fred_chessplayer(a)yahoo.se>
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] UI design on image pages
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> bawolff <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> skrev: Why not just edit stuff in the
> [[mediawiki:*]] namespace to make the
> uploader field more prominent in the file history? Whomever uploaded
> it is usually the author, and you don't need users to do the "right
> thing" its automatic.
>
> -bawolff
>
> It is difficult to implement this, as the developers have told me.
>
> I do think that if we want to develop this free stuff concept, our
> software needs to be more user friendly. Wikipedia is getting big, but it
> is still too complicated for ordinary people to do things that should be
> simple, such as uploading files.
>
> The upload form which requires the user to copy and paste a template is
> not something I'd expect every user to understand (for example my
> grandparents, but maybe not my parents either). And the current language
> translation of template is hardly optimal.
>
> Fredrik.
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Why not just edit stuff in the [[mediawiki:*]] namespace to make the
uploader field more prominent in the file history? Whomever uploaded
it is usually the author, and you don't need users to do the "right
thing" its automatic.
-bawolff
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/29/photojournalism_and_copyright/
I note that free-content is not quite mentioned. I am somewhat pleased
that many photographers' sense of entitlement *is* mentioned.
(Mind you, I already get phone calls from journalists who can't work
out what the hell is where on the typical image description page. The
current format *sucks* for reusers, even when they find their image.
Anyone want to work out an Image: page that looks more like something
you'd see in a commercial photo archive, or on Flickr?)
- d.