Commons-l August 2006

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Response from the USGS image purchaser
by cohesion 03 Sep '06

03 Sep '06

>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Hey Judson, > >Having them hosted on the commons had occurred to me as well. They >are raw tiff's, still with the map border, etc. So it might be >advantageous to make them easier to handle by a average wikipedia >viewers. > >They are also about 300 GB in total. So if you think it makes sense >for the commons to host them, I can arrange to mail a hard drive with >the data. > >Thanks, >-jared I emailed Jared (the person that bought the maps) just to say that there was interest in uploading them to commons, and he offered to mail a hard drive with all the images! I was thinking we would probably just grab them from the Archive, but I thought I would let everyone know of this offer in case anyone wanted to do it that way. It is a lot of data, and in tiff format.

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Commons SumItUp
by Magnus Manske 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

I've worked some more on my SumIrUp tool [1], which can generate a list of language templates with one-line descriptions for a new article. All it needs is a starting point, namely this article in any language. From there, it will spider all the language links, and gather the initial paragraph/sentence of each article. It then generates a copy-and-paste-ready text, including language links. I was wondering - why not link to this tool in the instructions text for new articles? There could be a link to this tool using the name of the page to be created, and en.wikipedia as default. If an article with that name exists on en.wikipedia, it will generate said list of one-line descriptions which can be copied into that article. As this is exactly what commons articles/categories *should* contain, it might be a huge help. Magnus [1] http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/commons_sumitup.php

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Fwd: [WikiEN-l] USGS maps are liberated!
by cohesion 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

On 8/30/06, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote: > [ crossposting on wikien-l and commons-l ] > Is there any project on Commons to upload these maps? > > g. Not that I know of, I don't think they are completely uploaded yet, but I would be glad to help if one gets started. I emailed the person that did this and said we might be interested :) Apparently when the upload is complete his project page will have more details about where they are. There are a lot, so a commons project might be a good idea :)

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Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] USGS maps are liberated!
by Guillaume Paumier 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

[ crossposting on wikien-l and commons-l ] On 8/29/06, cohesion <cohesion(a)sleepyhead.org> wrote: > > Jared Benedict bought all of the USGS maps for $1600 and then had a > fund raiser to recoup the money. That has been done and now they are > being uploaded to the Internet Archive. Project info is here > http://ransom.redjar.org/ > > Just letting people know, I'm sure there are a lot of cartographers > eager to get these into wikipedia :D > > Judson > Is there any project on Commons to upload these maps? g. -- Guillaume Paumier Disciplus Simplex http://fr.wikipedia.org : Resistance is futile — You will be assimilated.

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Rethinking [[COM:DEL]]
by Brianna Laugher 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

Hello, We have lots of people from lots of projects familiar with lots of different ways of organising noticeboards. Therefore I think we must brainstorm to find a better model for our poor [[Commons:Deletion requests]]. It simply creaks and groans under the weight of too many requests, it is unmanageable. Here are some requirements: * The requests still have to be on the [[template:deletion requests]]. This is because the 'Commons-level' page is actually a 'shell' or 'wrapper' with some instructions, and these instructions can be translated, while the actual requests themselves are not. * Want to keep adding new items simple (possibly we can use tricks with an input box similar to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:FPC#Nomination to keep it outwardly simple) * Want to be able to archive individual items - archiving a day at a time is not appropriate because some debates drag on interminably (sometime while we wait for more information, replies from other people etc), and the system has to allow for these. Some other ideas: * Ability to watch certain debates only? This would require a separate template for each item. I think a lot of people would find this useful. * Break up page according to ***type of request***? An obvious split at this stage would be splitting off requests based on format conversions, such as {{supersededSVG}} (since it seems people are going to persist in requesting these for deletion, we should deal with them in a more sensible manner). What other splits would be appropriate? (Keep in mind it has to be simple for users to be able to follow it - if they don't follow it, we're right back where we started) * Ability to flag debates as requiring participants having certain skills or interests?? This would be really useful. If we could flag debates as requiring say, German speaker, someone familiar with derivative works, someone familiar with PD expiration in the US, someone familiar with personality rights, someone familiar with XYZwhatever. Then people would be able to decide what issues they're interested in and look at those specifically. So this would again require one template per debate, I imagine. * Can we think up some extra-MW innovation and get some of our toolserver friends to implement it? For example, before the en.wp DB went kaput, en.wp had a very interesting toolserver-based thing for dealing with 'proposed deletions' ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:PROD ). * Need to keep track of those debates that drag on and maybe think up a better process for dealing with them. What are some other technical improvements that people would like to see to this page, to make it more usable? Are you aware of high-traffic noticeboards on other projects that are managed easily and well? If so, provide some links so we can check them out. If you have ideas for improvements, I suggest implementing a model with 5 or so fake debates in a user subpage, and again share the link so we can compare it to the current model. cheers, Brianna user:pfctdayelise

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Upload large files
by Magnus Manske 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

I've found some nice classical ogg files online (CC-BY-SA-2.0). However, some are larger than 20 MB. Uploading those leads me back to a blank upload page, without comment or error. 20MB seems to be a magical limt for PHP. Is there a way to bypass that limit? I'd hate to have to cut perfectly good ogg files. Magnus

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Copyrighted free use
by Artur Fijałkowski 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

I see that lots of people loads images and give them template {{Copyrighted free use}}. The funny thing about it is, that in most cases they are screenshots from TV, movies, movie posters, game covers, etc. So maybe we should make a large cleanup of images in this category, couse there can be tons of copyvios... AJF/WarX ps. why most copyvios is made by people talking in spanic langugage ?

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Stats on deletion
by Brianna Laugher 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Who's in the top 10? :) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Kotepho/admin#Ordered_list_of_total_… Maybe we should award monthly prizes to those who (a) increase their ranking by the most places, (b) perform the most deletions and (c) have the largest increase on their previous month's performance. Then again, perhaps it's not a good idea to encourage such single-minded obsessiveness. :) Disclaimer: As Fred wisely noted, quality != quantity. Pissing many people off is still not a good idea. Reducing large backlogs is, though. Walk a fine line........ cheers Brianna user:pfctdayelise

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intelligence in flagging
by stevertigo 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

I just logged in to commons, and found a note reporting a problem with http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bush_War_Budget_2003-crop.jpg This, as noted in the text, is a crop of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Bush_War_Budget_2003.jpg which is found to be public domain. Those paying close attention will note that the cropped image also has special code in the title, ("-crop") indicating that its a crop of another image. Nevertheless the image got flagged. This presents itself as a problem as Ive noticed a certain automation, and sadly a lack of intelligence, in flagging particular images. A more productive usage of time would be to simply reference the given link, and add the appropriate information. Stevertigo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Commons-l] Deletion of still-used images
by Florian Straub 14 Aug '06

14 Aug '06

"Alphax (Wikipedia email)" <alphasigmax(a)gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:34:00 +0930: > What we really need are links on local projects to the deletion log on > Commons for the "no such image" pages... there's nothing like a redlink > to make people ask "Whoa! What happened to that image?", but unless they > can find a reason (cf. the deletion record on Commons saying that > something was a copyvio) they're going to get angry. We already have that on de.wp - works fine, I think. Can anyone tell me how I can reply to the daily digest WITHOUT messing up the whole thread at http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2006-August/thread.html#511 ? Thanks in advance, Flo

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