Guys, I think we are/have demonstrated the highest level of immaturity on this one.Just what do we think we have demonstrated t the world?lets try to be civil and accommodating in our discussions.and above all,lets make informed arguments and discussions .its very embarrassing to see people talking trash about things and they have no idea of. Its well and wise to keep your mouth shut than open it to proove otherwise to us and the rest of the world. I personally was not opposed to Grace's idea of voting,just felt like Alex put it,this is being immature and rushing things.plus,Grace,as Abbas put it,Who did u intend to vote?the criteria of voting?and why would people vote say for me yet they have no idea of my input and participation in the KWC?that would be promoting populism which is not good for a volunteer movement like us.we are not supposed to encourage competition or populism,flexing our muscles to see wh has got the bigger say or last word would just serve to scare potential and very dedicated members like myself and others I wouldn't mention.lets accommodate each others opinion and views and not exert our muscles.... i must say I was quite unhappy with your total disregard to my concerns and went ahead to carry/publish the poll without addressing them or validating your course or atleast informing me and the group of the whole idea of voting rather than another option....... On 6/21/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: -- Limoke Oscar, mayenge.blogspot.com Freelancer, GeoInformatics and GIScience Student

Oh my God! Could we please maintain civility? We are all volunteers here and Oscar, please remember this in your choice of words. I do not want to lose any member (including both of you) at this very early stage of WMKE, and once again, please be careful with your choice of words. While I presume that you may have not meant any harm to Isaac, he has been offended. And Isaac, please assume good faith. Oscar might have gotten a bit carried away and I do hope that this will not happen again. My apologies,Abbas. Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:43:00 +0300 From: kips8505izo(a)gmail.com To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] New voting link Oscar, with all due respect kindly avoid using those harsh words. I would really like to emulate your point of view and esp. the part you say we demonstrate maturity but I beg to differ with you esp when you use those insulting words like keep your mouth shut,,,,, I am sorry if this will not go well with you but No offence intended I beg your pardon in advance Oscar. I am afraid its time some of us get out of Wikimedia Kenya coz its so painful to see such harsh exchange of words over a matter that can be solved tru positive discussion On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:24, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote: Guys, I think we are/have demonstrated the highest level of immaturity on this one.Just what do we think we have demonstrated t the world?lets try to be civil and accommodating in our discussions.and above all,lets make informed arguments and discussions .its very embarrassing to see people talking trash about things and they have no idea of. Its well and wise to keep your mouth shut than open it to proove otherwise to us and the rest of the world. I personally was not opposed to Grace's idea of voting,just felt like Alex put it,this is being immature and rushing things.plus,Grace,as Abbas put it,Who did u intend to vote?the criteria of voting?and why would people vote say for me yet they have no idea of my input and participation in the KWC?that would be promoting populism which is not good for a volunteer movement like us.we are not supposed to encourage competition or populism,flexing our muscles to see wh has got the bigger say or last word would just serve to scare potential and very dedicated members like myself and others I wouldn't mention.lets accommodate each others opinion and views and not exert our muscles.... i must say I was quite unhappy with your total disregard to my concerns and went ahead to carry/publish the poll without addressing them or validating your course or atleast informing me and the group of the whole idea of voting rather than another option....... On 6/21/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > -- Limoke Oscar, mayenge.blogspot.com Freelancer, GeoInformatics and GIScience Student _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake -- Isaac K. Kosgei. Bachelor of Agribusiness Management Egerton University, Njoro Kenya. (+254727553981) www.linkedin.com/in/kipsizoo Skype:Kipsizoo Twitter:@Kipsizoo "You Must be the Change you wish to see in the world"-Mahatma Ghandi _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

Apology accepted Oscar. Abbas we are not losing anyone. Relax and lets get this through. Please concentrate on brainstorming for suitable solutions for the stalemate at hand. Regards Riwa. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- *Chris A. Riwa* Freelance Survey Researcher and Consultant Mobile: *+254(0)725-930-850* e-mail: - *chriwaustin(a)gmail.com* - *otieno_chris(a)yahoo.com* - *chriwaustin(a)facebook.com* Facebook: *facebook.com/chriwaustin*

Hi fellow WMKE members, I've been traveling extensively over the last six weeks, and only now realised that the last wikimediake msg I received is from June 23 (same problem with WMF's LangCom). As I don't have complete control over my @sil.org address, please address all future correspondence to my private address info(a)oliverstegen.net [Note to list admin: Please change my subscription to the list accordingly.] Thanks! Oliver (aka BT) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org Oliver Stegen Linguistics Consultant, SIL Uganda-Tanzania P.O.Box 539, Village Market, 00621 Nairobi, Kenya Mobile: +254 710 215301 Email: Oliver_Stegen(a)sil.org (ofc); info(a)oliverstegen.net (priv) Skype: stegling Twitter: @babatabita http://oliverstegen.net <http://oliverstegen.net/>