Oh my God! Could we please maintain civility? We are all volunteers here and Oscar, please remember this in your choice of words. I do not want to lose any member (including both of you) at this very early stage of WMKE, and once again, please be careful with your choice of words. While I presume that you may have not meant any harm to Isaac, he has been offended. And Isaac, please assume good faith. Oscar might have gotten a bit carried away and I do hope that this will not happen again.

My apologies,
Abbas.


Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:43:00 +0300
From: kips8505izo@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] New voting link

Oscar,
with all due respect kindly avoid using those harsh words. I would really like to emulate your point of view and esp. the part you say we demonstrate maturity but I beg to differ with you esp when you use those insulting words like keep your mouth shut,,,,,
I am sorry if this will not go well with  you but No offence intended I beg your pardon in advance Oscar.


I am  afraid its time some of us get out of Wikimedia Kenya coz its so painful to see such harsh exchange of words over a matter that can be solved tru positive discussion

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 14:24, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I think we are/have demonstrated the highest level of immaturity on
this one.Just  what do we think we have demonstrated t the world?lets
try to be civil and accommodating in our discussions.and above
all,lets make informed arguments and discussions .its very
embarrassing to see people talking trash about things and they have no
idea of.
Its well and wise to keep your mouth shut than open it to proove
otherwise to us and the rest of the world.

I personally was not opposed to Grace's idea of voting,just felt like
Alex put it,this is being immature and rushing things.plus,Grace,as
Abbas put it,Who did u intend to vote?the criteria of voting?and why
would people vote say for me yet they have no idea of my input and
participation in the KWC?that would be promoting populism which is not
good for a volunteer movement like us.we are not supposed to encourage
competition or populism,flexing our muscles to see wh has got the
bigger say or last word would just serve to scare potential and very
dedicated members like myself and others I wouldn't mention.lets
accommodate each others opinion and views and not exert our
muscles....

i must say I was quite unhappy with your total disregard to my
concerns and went ahead to carry/publish the poll without addressing
them or validating your course or atleast informing me and the group
of the whole idea of voting rather than another option.......



On 6/21/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> hi Alex, et al.,
> I don't know the right way to do this, but to avoid a lot of unnecessary
> debates over who should go and how we decide whose going; I think it's best
> if the participants themselves first discuss what they want off-list. If
> the participants are comfortable with discussing and deciding who should go
> -- well and good. If they can not decide, then they can request for a
> broader input from the mailing list.
> I don't know how we will do it, but i am ready to discuss this with Oscar &
> Alex first (off-list).
> --Abbas.
>
>
>
>  > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 03:53:08 -0700
>> From: xelawafs@yahoo.com
>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] New voting link
>>
>> Hey Abbas,
>>
>> As I've hinted on my previous post, this is not the right way of coducting
>> an election.
>>
>> Grace, this all seems rushed and forced and currently, Oscar's idea seems
>> better.
>>
>> Alex.
>>
>> On Tue Jun 21st, 2011 3:15 AM PDT Abbas Mahmood wrote:
>>
>> >Grace,
>> >
>> >thanks for the link. However, Oscar earlier shared his concerns over who
>> > has the right to vote. Which brings me to the question: is everyone OK
>> > with Grace overseeing the voting process or do you want the Kiswahili
>> > Wikipedia Challenge participants to decide for themselves?
>> >
>> >--Abbas.
>> >
>> >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:05:34 +0300
>> >From: gkariuki99@gmail.com
>> >To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> >Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] New voting link
>> >
>> >Hello,
>> >this is the new voting link: http://www.doodle.com/5wawrwb3zex66qxe
>> >Thanks,Grace
>> >
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