Interesting stuff. As an initial first step, I added a newstrust button to the {{Social bookmarks}} template. Its somewhat in the background right now. We might perhaps consider a bigger, "review this article" button later if we really want to push this. (Their review a story button also has the option to add what categories the article falls in, but I haven't added that part as its not used in their basic button, and its unclear if its really used (And its somewhat more complicated to do, as i can't do it directly via template) If we want that i can do it later.)
For having credibility ratings next to the source, sounds like a cool idea (at the very least for a gadget, having it global would require some careful consideration + potential privacy issues would need to be looked at), but I can't see anyway of getting such information off their site. The best i could find was a way of getting the last couple articles that a specific source published, and the ratings for those, but i did not see any way of getting the overall rating of a source, or the specific rating of an article.
Feel free to send me said pdf. Can't guarantee i'll read 6 mb of pdf (unless there's a lot of pictures ;), but i'll flip through it.
What else. I think we should re-model the flagged revisions reader feedback into some better design, perhaps inspired by newstrust. (flagged revs reader feedback module in its current form, sucks. a lot).
cheers, bawolff
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I just got off of an hour long Skype chat with Fabrice Floren, founder of http://newstrust.net. Jimmy suggested to him it might be interesting if there are ways Wikinews can work with them. I think there are, but to some extent we need to check we're all within WMF rules, and we might want to kick a few more people about Amgine's MediaWiki extension for XML feeds.
NewsTrust is a non-profit, ostensibly a news aggregator, but they challenge people to review news and become more critical of it. They're a hell of a lot more clued up about reviewing and being critical of news than the feeble review widget in MediaWiki.
I was up-front with Fabrice, Wikinewsies will look at their site and say, "what can we steal?" Well, unless we run into the privacy policy, we're welcome to steal all their gadgets, and get them reviewing our stuff.
My thoughts on this at the moment are there is room for collaboration; feeding Wikinews stories into NewsTrust and putting the NewsTrust review/rating widget on each Wikinews article. This could be incorporated into the publish template.
Second, they have pretty good background on the sources they follow and are crowdsourcing "credibility ratings" for them. Could we pull that data into the {{source}} template on Wikinews? By this I mean someone reading one of Wikinews' articles scrolls down to the sources, it says "The Guardian", gives the WikiTrust rating for the source, and the cited article.
Fabrice had not had a lot of time to look at Wikinews articles, but will be sticking a couple up for the NewsTrust community to review. Cirt will be pleased to know that at a semi-casual read his "Glenn Beck" coverage was deemed comprehensive and well-researched.
I'm going to sign up on the site and have a real dig round in the morning. For now, there's the following links that might interest people like, ooh, I don't know ;-) Bawolff?
http://newstrust.net/tools/buttons http://newstrust.net/sources/the_guardian http://newstrust.net/widgets http://newstrust.net/feeds/todays_feeds
I also have a PDF of a NewsTrust presentation (~6Mb) if you want a copy let me know a suitably well-endowed email address.
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