Lt Powers has a valid concern, that several of us share, and it has nothing to do with liking the logo or not.
Cacahuate
On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Snowolf ml@snowolf.eu wrote:
So you feel a logo you don't like shouldn't become the logo and so raise it here? Please...
I'm sure Philippe is watching the discussion and has already commented that for example the whole idea about the colors not being used is not a concern or a problem on WMF's part.
Snowolf
On 07/11/2012 17:53, Powers wrote:
The Wikivoyage logo poll is generating strong support for an option that looks extremely similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. Several of us feel that this will create brand confusion and numerous problems down the road, but it still has strong support from folks who think that similarity – which in this case goes far beyond just the colors – is an asset. Is there any way we can get WMF’s brand identity team (or whomever) to comment on whether such a logo would be acceptable, ideally before we get into stage 2 of the poll?
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I've asked Jay Walsh, the Foundation's Head of Communications, to weigh in on the logo poll page.
pb
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Cacahuate yocacahuate@gmail.com wrote:
Lt Powers has a valid concern, that several of us share, and it has nothing to do with liking the logo or not.
Cacahuate
On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Snowolf ml@snowolf.eu wrote:
So you feel a logo you don't like shouldn't become the logo and so raise it here? Please...
I'm sure Philippe is watching the discussion and has already commented that for example the whole idea about the colors not being used is not a concern or a problem on WMF's part.
Snowolf
On 07/11/2012 17:53, Powers wrote:
The Wikivoyage logo poll is generating strong support for an option that looks extremely similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. Several of us feel that this will create brand confusion and numerous problems down the road, but it still has strong support from folks who think that similarity – which in this case goes far beyond just the colors – is an asset. Is there any way we can get WMF’s brand identity team (or whomever) to comment on whether such a logo would be acceptable, ideally before we get into stage 2 of the poll?
Powers &8^]
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At least this logo will be under cc-by-sa?
And pleas, not a blue logo again, or red + green (agh!)
On 7 November 2012 20:07, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.org wrote:
I've asked Jay Walsh, the Foundation's Head of Communications, to weigh in on the logo poll page.
pb
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415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe@wikimedia.org
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Cacahuate yocacahuate@gmail.com wrote:
Lt Powers has a valid concern, that several of us share, and it has nothing to do with liking the logo or not.
Cacahuate
On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Snowolf ml@snowolf.eu wrote:
So you feel a logo you don't like shouldn't become the logo and so raise it here? Please...
I'm sure Philippe is watching the discussion and has already commented that for example the whole idea about the colors not being used is not a concern or a problem on WMF's part.
Snowolf
On 07/11/2012 17:53, Powers wrote:
The Wikivoyage logo poll is generating strong support for an option that looks extremely similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. Several of us feel that this will create brand confusion and numerous problems down the road, but it still has strong support from folks who think that similarity – which in this case goes far beyond just the colors – is an asset. Is there any way we can get WMF’s brand identity team (or whomever) to comment on whether such a logo would be acceptable, ideally before we get into stage 2 of the poll?
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might be best to have the logo under a more restrictive license to protect the sites image
J
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argenton@gmail.com> wrote:
At least this logo will be under cc-by-sa?
And pleas, not a blue logo again, or red + green (agh!)
On 7 November 2012 20:07, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I've asked Jay Walsh, the Foundation's Head of Communications, to weigh in on the logo poll page.
pb
Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe@wikimedia.org
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Cacahuate yocacahuate@gmail.com wrote:
Lt Powers has a valid concern, that several of us share, and it has nothing to do with liking the logo or not.
Cacahuate
On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Snowolf ml@snowolf.eu wrote:
So you feel a logo you don't like shouldn't become the logo and so raise it here? Please...
I'm sure Philippe is watching the discussion and has already commented that for example the whole idea about the colors not being used is not a concern or a problem on WMF's part.
Snowolf
On 07/11/2012 17:53, Powers wrote:
The Wikivoyage logo poll is generating strong support for an option that looks extremely similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. Several of us feel that this will create brand confusion and numerous problems down the road, but it still has strong support from folks who think that similarity – which in this case goes far beyond just the colors – is an asset. Is there any way we can get WMF’s brand identity team (or whomever) to comment on whether such a logo would be acceptable, ideally before we get into stage 2 of the poll?
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On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Snowolf ml@snowolf.eu wrote:
WMF logos are not under cc-by-sa iirc.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_official_logos
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_RGB_logo_with_te...
"This file is ineligible for copyright and therefore in the public domain, because it consists entirely of information that is common property and contains no original authorship."
but also
"This file is (or includes) one of the official logos or designs used by the Wikimedia Foundation or by one of its projects. Use of the Wikimedia logos and trademarks is subject to the Wikimedia trademark policy and visual identity guidelines, and may require permission."
yep WMF logos aren't under cc-by, that's the "problem"... why not? ... believe in free
On 8 November 2012 15:55, Daniel Zahn dzahn@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Snowolf ml@snowolf.eu wrote:
WMF logos are not under cc-by-sa iirc.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_official_logos
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_RGB_logo_with_te...
"This file is ineligible for copyright and therefore in the public domain, because it consists entirely of information that is common property and contains no original authorship."
but also
"This file is (or includes) one of the official logos or designs used by the Wikimedia Foundation or by one of its projects. Use of the Wikimedia logos and trademarks is subject to the Wikimedia trademark policy and visual identity guidelines, and may require permission."
-- Daniel Zahn dzahn@wikimedia.org Operations Engineer
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