Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the persons IP address. Thoughts.
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the persons IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible without installing additional executable code on the servers.
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the persons IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible without installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.comwrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is
leading
the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the
persons
IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible
without
installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
I would suggest the mobile splash page have the continent navigation, maybe using this imagemap http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Template:Worldimagemap, and a searchbox. Featured articles would be nice too, but that might be a lot up front.
-Peter
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:05 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe <thewub.wiki@googlemail.com
wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is
leading
the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the
persons
IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible
without
installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
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The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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The mobile page for wikipedia has some content http://en.m.wikipedia.org/
J
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Peter B Fitzgerald pbf5@georgetown.eduwrote:
I would suggest the mobile splash page have the continent navigation, maybe using this imagemaphttp://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Template:Worldimagemap, and a searchbox. Featured articles would be nice too, but that might be a lot up front.
-Peter
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:05 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe < thewub.wiki@googlemail.com> wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is
leading
the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the
persons
IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible
without
installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
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The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one of the recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site.
Powers &8^]
-----Original Message----- From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 To: Wikivoyage Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the
persons
IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible
without
installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa ge_formatting
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
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So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for the launch.
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.comwrote:
Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one of the recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site.
Powers &8^]
-----Original Message----- *From:* James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] *Sent:* Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 *To:* Wikivoyage Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is
leading
the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the
persons
IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible
without
installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
-- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. There is a long running bug - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which exists due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts which are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with and id prefixed with mp- will be shown.
Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination of the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix 'mf-'
Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2
FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on the style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in MediaWiki:Common.css
For instance instead of <div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;">
Please use <div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left">
where
.portal-column-left { width: 40%; text-align:center; }
If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much friendly mobile site.
Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need any help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience in general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help drive the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited!
Jon
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for the launch.
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one of the recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site.
Powers &8^]
-----Original Message----- From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 To: Wikivoyage Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the persons IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible without installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
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The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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-- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edithttp://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=2025215&oldid=2015117in early December seemed to be the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers and tried out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's looking better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke at it to see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so.
On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. There is a long running bug - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which exists due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts which are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with and id prefixed with mp- will be shown.
Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination of the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix 'mf-'
Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2
FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on the style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in MediaWiki:Common.css
For instance instead of
<div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;">
Please use
<div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left">
where
.portal-column-left { width: 40%; text-align:center; }
If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much friendly mobile site.
Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need any help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience in general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help drive the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited!
Jon
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for the launch.
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers <LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one of the recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site.
Powers &8^]
-----Original Message----- From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 To: Wikivoyage Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the persons IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible without installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
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The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
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The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Thanks TheHelpfulOne!
Another tip: Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to show on the mobile view.
I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% with on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load MediaWiki:Common.css)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed to be the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers and tried out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's looking better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke at it to see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so.
On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. There is a long running bug - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which exists due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts which are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with and id prefixed with mp- will be shown.
Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination of the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix 'mf-'
Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2
FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on the style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in MediaWiki:Common.css
For instance instead of
<div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;">
Please use
<div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left">
where
.portal-column-left { width: 40%; text-align:center; }
If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much friendly mobile site.
Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need any help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience in general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help drive the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited!
Jon
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for the launch.
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one of the recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site.
Powers &8^]
-----Original Message----- From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 To: Wikivoyage Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the persons IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible without installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
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The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or try, that?
See: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks TheHelpfulOne!
Another tip: Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to show on the mobile view.
I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% with on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load MediaWiki:Common.css)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed to be the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers and tried out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's looking better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke at it to see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so.
On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. There is a long running bug - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which exists due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts which are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with and id prefixed with mp- will be shown.
Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination of the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix 'mf-'
Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2
FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on the style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in MediaWiki:Common.css
For instance instead of
<div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;">
Please use
<div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left">
where
.portal-column-left { width: 40%; text-align:center; }
If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much friendly mobile site.
Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need any help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience in general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help drive the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited!
Jon
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for the launch.
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one of the recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site.
Powers &8^]
-----Original Message----- From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 To: Wikivoyage Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote:
Hey All
Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is leading the mobile effort?
I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the persons IP address. Thoughts.
The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen compatible format.
Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible without installing additional executable code on the servers.
Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
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I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is optional. What it does is add a title to the section.
We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff.
Mobile looks good now: http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
(drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see)
However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint...
The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western Australia photo would be logical and would fix this.
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or try, that?
See: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks TheHelpfulOne!
Another tip: Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to show on the mobile view.
I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% with on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load MediaWiki:Common.css)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed to be the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers and tried out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's looking better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke at it to see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so.
On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. There is a long running bug - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which exists due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts which are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with and id prefixed with mp- will be shown.
Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination of the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix 'mf-'
Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2
FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on the style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in MediaWiki:Common.css
For instance instead of
<div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;">
Please use
<div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left">
where
.portal-column-left { width: 40%; text-align:center; }
If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much friendly mobile site.
Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need any help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience in general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help drive the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited!
Jon
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for the launch.
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one of the recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site.
Powers &8^]
-----Original Message----- From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 To: Wikivoyage Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site
The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Take a look at it
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote:
On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: > On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: > > Hey All > > Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who is > leading > the mobile effort? > > I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at the > persons > IP address. Thoughts. > > > The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen > compatible > format. > > Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be possible > without > installing additional executable code on the servers. >
> _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >
The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but these are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920)
Pete / the wub
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We should probably keep the main page and the subpages that make it up uneditable for a bit after the launch. Thanks for fixing this.
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is optional. What it does is add a title to the section.
We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff.
Mobile looks good now: http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
(drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see)
However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint...
The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western Australia photo would be logical and would fix this.
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or try, that?
See:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Thanks TheHelpfulOne!
Another tip: Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to show on the mobile view.
I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% with on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load MediaWiki:Common.css)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed to
be
the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers and
tried
out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's looking better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke at
it to
see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so.
On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. There is a long running bug - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which exists due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts which are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with and id prefixed with mp- will be shown.
Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination of the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix 'mf-'
Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2
FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on the style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in MediaWiki:Common.css
For instance instead of
<div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;">
Please use
<div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left">
where
.portal-column-left { width: 40%; text-align:center; }
If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much friendly mobile site.
Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need any help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience in general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help drive the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited!
Jon
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com
wrote:
So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for
the
launch.
James
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com wrote: > > Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one
of the
> recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site. > > > > > > Powers &8^] > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 > To: Wikivoyage Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site > > > > The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page > > > > Take a look at it > > > > James > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe > thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote: > > On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: > > On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: > > > > Hey All > > > > Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who
is
> > leading > > the mobile effort? > > > > I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at
the
> > persons > > IP address. Thoughts. > > > > > > The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen > > compatible > > format. > > > > Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be
possible
> > without > > installing additional executable code on the servers. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > > > > The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: > > >
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
> > On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's > country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but
these
> are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables > "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. > Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet > (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920) > > Pete / the wub > > _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > > > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >
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James, are you an admin? Maybe you could do the photo swap? I'm not an admin so can't.
Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
We should probably keep the main page and the subpages that make it up uneditable for a bit after the launch. Thanks for fixing this.
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is optional. What it does is add a title to the section.
We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff.
Mobile looks good now: http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
(drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see)
However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint...
The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western Australia photo would be logical and would fix this.
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or try, that?
See: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks TheHelpfulOne!
Another tip: Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to show on the mobile view.
I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% with on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load MediaWiki:Common.css)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed to be the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers and tried out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's looking better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke at it to see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so.
On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. There is a long running bug - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which exists due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts which are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with and id prefixed with mp- will be shown.
Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination of the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix 'mf-'
Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2
FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on the style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in MediaWiki:Common.css
For instance instead of
<div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;">
Please use
<div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left">
where
.portal-column-left { width: 40%; text-align:center; }
If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much friendly mobile site.
Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need any help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience in general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help drive the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited!
Jon
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote: > So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for > the > launch. > > James > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers > LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com > wrote: >> >> Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one >> of the >> recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site. >> >> >> >> >> >> Powers &8^] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 >> To: Wikivoyage Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site >> >> >> >> The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page >> >> >> >> Take a look at it >> >> >> >> James >> >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe >> thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote: >> >> On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: >> > On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: >> > >> > Hey All >> > >> > Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who >> > is >> > leading >> > the mobile effort? >> > >> > I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at >> > the >> > persons >> > IP address. Thoughts. >> > >> > >> > The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen >> > compatible >> > format. >> > >> > Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be >> > possible >> > without >> > installing additional executable code on the servers. >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> > >> >> The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: >> >> >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa... >> >> On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's >> country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but >> these >> are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables >> "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. >> Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet >> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920) >> >> Pete / the wub >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> James Heilman >> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >> >> >> >> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >> >> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >
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Yes the title is optional. Thanks for pointing this out I have updated the docs!
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
James, are you an admin? Maybe you could do the photo swap? I'm not an admin so can't.
Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
We should probably keep the main page and the subpages that make it up uneditable for a bit after the launch. Thanks for fixing this.
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is optional. What it does is add a title to the section.
We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff.
Mobile looks good now: http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
(drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see)
However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint...
The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western Australia photo would be logical and would fix this.
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or try, that?
See: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks TheHelpfulOne!
Another tip: Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to show on the mobile view.
I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% with on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load MediaWiki:Common.css)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed to be the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers and tried out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's looking better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke at it to see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so.
On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. > There is a long running bug - > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which exists > due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts which > are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with > and > id prefixed with mp- will be shown. > > Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. > There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination of > the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix > 'mf-' > > Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content > Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content > elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2 > > FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with > fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on the > style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in > MediaWiki:Common.css > > For instance instead of > <div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;"> > > Please use > <div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left"> > > where > > .portal-column-left { > width: 40%; > text-align:center; > } > > If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much > friendly mobile site. > > Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need any > help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience in > general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help drive > the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited! > > Jon > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com > wrote: > > So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working for > > the > > launch. > > > > James > > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers > > LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com > > wrote: > >> > >> Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one > >> of the > >> recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile site. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Powers &8^] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 > >> To: Wikivoyage Mailing List > >> Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site > >> > >> > >> > >> The mobile site is here http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page > >> > >> > >> > >> Take a look at it > >> > >> > >> > >> James > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe > >> thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote: > >> > >> On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: > >> > On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: > >> > > >> > Hey All > >> > > >> > Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. Who > >> > is > >> > leading > >> > the mobile effort? > >> > > >> > I would propose that the mobile site should show the article at > >> > the > >> > persons > >> > IP address. Thoughts. > >> > > >> > > >> > The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen > >> > compatible > >> > format. > >> > > >> > Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be > >> > possible > >> > without > >> > installing additional executable code on the servers. > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > >> > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > >> > > >> > >> The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: > >> > >> > >> > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa... > >> > >> On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the user's > >> country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but > >> these > >> are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript variables > >> "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. > >> Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites yet > >> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920) > >> > >> Pete / the wub > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list > >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> James Heilman > >> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > >> > >> > >> > >> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > >> > >> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list > >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > James Heilman > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
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No not an admin on WV. Where does the photo need swapped?
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
James, are you an admin? Maybe you could do the photo swap? I'm not an admin so can't.
Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
We should probably keep the main page and the subpages that make it up uneditable for a bit after the launch. Thanks for fixing this.
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is optional. What it does is add a title to the section.
We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff.
Mobile looks good now: http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
(drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see)
However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint...
The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western Australia photo would be logical and would fix this.
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or try, that?
See:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks TheHelpfulOne!
Another tip: Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to show on the mobile view.
I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100%
with
on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load MediaWiki:Common.css)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed
to
be the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers
and
tried out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's looking better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke
at
it to see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so.
On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. > There is a long running bug - > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which
exists
> due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts
which
> are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with > and > id prefixed with mp- will be shown. > > Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. > There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination
of
> the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix > 'mf-' > > Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content > Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 mf-content > elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2 > > FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with > fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on
the
> style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in > MediaWiki:Common.css > > For instance instead of > <div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;"> > > Please use > <div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left"> > > where > > .portal-column-left { > width: 40%; > text-align:center; > } > > If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much > friendly mobile site. > > Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need
any
> help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience
in
> general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help
drive
> the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very excited! > > Jon > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com > wrote: > > So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working
for
> > the > > launch. > > > > James > > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers > > LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com > > wrote: > >> > >> Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect one > >> of the > >> recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile
site.
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Powers &8^] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 > >> To: Wikivoyage Mailing List > >> Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site > >> > >> > >> > >> The mobile site is here
http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
> >> > >> > >> > >> Take a look at it > >> > >> > >> > >> James > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe > >> thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote: > >> > >> On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: > >> > On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: > >> > > >> > Hey All > >> > > >> > Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it.
Who
> >> > is > >> > leading > >> > the mobile effort? > >> > > >> > I would propose that the mobile site should show the article
at
> >> > the > >> > persons > >> > IP address. Thoughts. > >> > > >> > > >> > The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen > >> > compatible > >> > format. > >> > > >> > Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be > >> > possible > >> > without > >> > installing additional executable code on the servers. > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > >> > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > >> > > >> > >> The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: > >> > >> > >> > >>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa...
> >> > >> On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the
user's
> >> country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but > >> these > >> are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript
variables
> >> "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" respectively. > >> Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites
yet
> >> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920) > >> > >> Pete / the wub > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list > >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> James Heilman > >> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > >> > >> > >> > >> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > >> > >> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list > >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > James Heilman > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
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The image change I requested is a rather minor display detail affecting only mobile. Not important I guess, or someone might have done something about it. I would have but it requires admin flag to do because it is in a protected template that shows the Discover section on the Wikivoyage Main Page. If you're interested, I discussed it here:
http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Discover_section_--_move_Baden_...
Cheers, Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
No not an admin on WV. Where does the photo need swapped?
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
James, are you an admin? Maybe you could do the photo swap? I'm not an admin so can't.
Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
We should probably keep the main page and the subpages that make it up uneditable for a bit after the launch. Thanks for fixing this.
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is optional. What it does is add a title to the section.
We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff.
Mobile looks good now: http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
(drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see)
However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint...
The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western Australia photo would be logical and would fix this.
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or try, that?
See:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks TheHelpfulOne!
Another tip: Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to show on the mobile view.
I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% with on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load MediaWiki:Common.css)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed > to > be > the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers > and > tried > out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's > looking > better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke > at > it to > see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so. > > > On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >> Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. >> There is a long running bug - >> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which >> exists >> due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts >> which >> are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with >> and >> id prefixed with mp- will be shown. >> >> Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. >> There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination >> of >> the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix >> 'mf-' >> >> Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content >> Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 >> mf-content >> elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2 >> >> FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with >> fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on >> the >> style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in >> MediaWiki:Common.css >> >> For instance instead of >> <div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;"> >> >> Please use >> <div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left"> >> >> where >> >> .portal-column-left { >> width: 40%; >> text-align:center; >> } >> >> If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much >> friendly mobile site. >> >> Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need >> any >> help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience >> in >> general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help >> drive >> the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very >> excited! >> >> Jon >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com >> wrote: >> > So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working >> > for >> > the >> > launch. >> > >> > James >> > >> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers >> > LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect >> >> one >> >> of the >> >> recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile >> >> site. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Powers &8^] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] >> >> Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 >> >> To: Wikivoyage Mailing List >> >> Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The mobile site is here >> >> http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Take a look at it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> James >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe >> >> thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> > On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hey All >> >> > >> >> > Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. >> >> > Who >> >> > is >> >> > leading >> >> > the mobile effort? >> >> > >> >> > I would propose that the mobile site should show the article >> >> > at >> >> > the >> >> > persons >> >> > IP address. Thoughts. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen >> >> > compatible >> >> > format. >> >> > >> >> > Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be >> >> > possible >> >> > without >> >> > installing additional executable code on the servers. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> >> > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> >> > >> >> >> >> The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa... >> >> >> >> On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the >> >> user's >> >> country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but >> >> these >> >> are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript >> >> variables >> >> "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" >> >> respectively. >> >> Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites >> >> yet >> >> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920) >> >> >> >> Pete / the wub >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> James Heilman >> >> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >> >> >> >> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > James Heilman >> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >> > >> > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >> > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > > > > > -- > Thehelpfulone > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone > > _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >
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I just updated it
Cacahuate
On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:56 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
The image change I requested is a rather minor display detail affecting only mobile. Not important I guess, or someone might have done something about it. I would have but it requires admin flag to do because it is in a protected template that shows the Discover section on the Wikivoyage Main Page. If you're interested, I discussed it here:
http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Discover_section_--_move_Baden_...
Cheers, Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
No not an admin on WV. Where does the photo need swapped?
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
James, are you an admin? Maybe you could do the photo swap? I'm not an admin so can't.
Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
We should probably keep the main page and the subpages that make it up uneditable for a bit after the launch. Thanks for fixing this.
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is optional. What it does is add a title to the section.
We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff.
Mobile looks good now: http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
(drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see)
However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint...
The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western Australia photo would be logical and would fix this.
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or try, that?
See:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote: > Thanks TheHelpfulOne! > > Another tip: > Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the > mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to > show > on the mobile view. > > I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% > with > on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load > MediaWiki:Common.css) > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone > thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote: >> Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed >> to >> be >> the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers >> and >> tried >> out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's >> looking >> better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke >> at >> it to >> see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so. >> >> >> On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote: >>> >>> Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. >>> There is a long running bug - >>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which >>> exists >>> due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts >>> which >>> are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with >>> and >>> id prefixed with mp- will be shown. >>> >>> Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. >>> There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination >>> of >>> the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix >>> 'mf-' >>> >>> Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content >>> Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 >>> mf-content >>> elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2 >>> >>> FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with >>> fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on >>> the >>> style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in >>> MediaWiki:Common.css >>> >>> For instance instead of >>> <div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;"> >>> >>> Please use >>> <div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left"> >>> >>> where >>> >>> .portal-column-left { >>> width: 40%; >>> text-align:center; >>> } >>> >>> If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much >>> friendly mobile site. >>> >>> Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need >>> any >>> help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience >>> in >>> general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help >>> drive >>> the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very >>> excited! >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>>> So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working >>>> for >>>> the >>>> launch. >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers >>>> LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect >>>>> one >>>>> of the >>>>> recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile >>>>> site. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Powers &8^] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 >>>>> To: Wikivoyage Mailing List >>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The mobile site is here >>>>> http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take a look at it >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe >>>>> thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey All >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. >>>>>> Who >>>>>> is >>>>>> leading >>>>>> the mobile effort? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would propose that the mobile site should show the article >>>>>> at >>>>>> the >>>>>> persons >>>>>> IP address. Thoughts. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen >>>>>> compatible >>>>>> format. >>>>>> >>>>>> Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be >>>>>> possible >>>>>> without >>>>>> installing additional executable code on the servers. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa... >>>>> >>>>> On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the >>>>> user's >>>>> country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but >>>>> these >>>>> are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript >>>>> variables >>>>> "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" >>>>> respectively. >>>>> Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites >>>>> yet >>>>> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920) >>>>> >>>>> Pete / the wub >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> James Heilman >>>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >>>>> >>>>> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> James Heilman >>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>> >>>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >>>> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thehelpfulone >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
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Yea! I got the __two little gray rectangles__ to go away from the mobile version of Wikivoyage Main Page... at least in my testing over at test.wikipedia.org.
The fix was to remove the id="mf-..." attributes two wiki tables.
Those were redundant and were causing the little rectangles in mobile. I removed those two id attributes and the two rectangles vanished from mobile version on testing. We are not using the table layout stuff for the mobile Main Page so don't want those.
Could an Admin please cut and paste the fixed code into Wikivoyage Main Page? It is temporarily stashed here: http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page/temp
You want my recent version of that page that has the edit summary "(Please paste this version of Main Page into Main Page. It removes the two unwanted little rectangles from the mobile version of the Main Page.)"
Thanks!
One little fix at a time.
Roger :-)
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Cacahuate yocacahuate@gmail.com wrote:
I just updated it
Cacahuate
On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:56 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
The image change I requested is a rather minor display detail affecting only mobile. Not important I guess, or someone might have done something about it. I would have but it requires admin flag to do because it is in a protected template that shows the Discover section on the Wikivoyage Main Page. If you're interested, I discussed it here:
http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Discover_section_--_move_Baden_...
Cheers, Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
No not an admin on WV. Where does the photo need swapped?
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
James, are you an admin? Maybe you could do the photo swap? I'm not an admin so can't.
Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
We should probably keep the main page and the subpages that make it up uneditable for a bit after the launch. Thanks for fixing this.
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is optional. What it does is add a title to the section.
We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff.
Mobile looks good now: http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page
(drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see)
However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint...
The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western Australia photo would be logical and would fix this.
Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote: > Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, > eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or > try, > that? > > See: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix > > Roger > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org > wrote: >> Thanks TheHelpfulOne! >> >> Another tip: >> Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the >> mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to >> show >> on the mobile view. >> >> I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% >> with >> on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load >> MediaWiki:Common.css) >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone >> thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote: >>> Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed >>> to >>> be >>> the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers >>> and >>> tried >>> out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's >>> looking >>> better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke >>> at >>> it to >>> see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so. >>> >>> >>> On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote: >>>> >>>> Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. >>>> There is a long running bug - >>>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which >>>> exists >>>> due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts >>>> which >>>> are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with >>>> and >>>> id prefixed with mp- will be shown. >>>> >>>> Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. >>>> There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination >>>> of >>>> the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix >>>> 'mf-' >>>> >>>> Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content >>>> Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 >>>> mf-content >>>> elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2 >>>> >>>> FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with >>>> fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on >>>> the >>>> style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in >>>> MediaWiki:Common.css >>>> >>>> For instance instead of >>>> <div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;"> >>>> >>>> Please use >>>> <div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left"> >>>> >>>> where >>>> >>>> .portal-column-left { >>>> width: 40%; >>>> text-align:center; >>>> } >>>> >>>> If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much >>>> friendly mobile site. >>>> >>>> Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need >>>> any >>>> help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience >>>> in >>>> general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help >>>> drive >>>> the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very >>>> excited! >>>> >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>>> So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working >>>>> for >>>>> the >>>>> launch. >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers >>>>> LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect >>>>>> one >>>>>> of the >>>>>> recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile >>>>>> site. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Powers &8^] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] >>>>>> Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 >>>>>> To: Wikivoyage Mailing List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The mobile site is here >>>>>> http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take a look at it >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> James >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe >>>>>> thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey All >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. >>>>>>> Who >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> leading >>>>>>> the mobile effort? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would propose that the mobile site should show the article >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> persons >>>>>>> IP address. Thoughts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen >>>>>>> compatible >>>>>>> format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be >>>>>>> possible >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> installing additional executable code on the servers. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa... >>>>>> >>>>>> On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the >>>>>> user's >>>>>> country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but >>>>>> these >>>>>> are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript >>>>>> variables >>>>>> "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" >>>>>> respectively. >>>>>> Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites >>>>>> yet >>>>>> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920) >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete / the wub >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> James Heilman >>>>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >>>>>> >>>>>> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> James Heilman >>>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>>> >>>>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >>>>> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thehelpfulone >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
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Ryan moved the mobile fix over to Main Page. Thanks Ryan.
Roger
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:10 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
Yea! I got the __two little gray rectangles__ to go away from the mobile version of Wikivoyage Main Page... at least in my testing over at test.wikipedia.org.
The fix was to remove the id="mf-..." attributes two wiki tables.
Those were redundant and were causing the little rectangles in mobile. I removed those two id attributes and the two rectangles vanished from mobile version on testing. We are not using the table layout stuff for the mobile Main Page so don't want those.
Could an Admin please cut and paste the fixed code into Wikivoyage Main Page? It is temporarily stashed here: http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page/temp
You want my recent version of that page that has the edit summary "(Please paste this version of Main Page into Main Page. It removes the two unwanted little rectangles from the mobile version of the Main Page.)"
Thanks!
One little fix at a time.
Roger :-)
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Cacahuate yocacahuate@gmail.com wrote:
I just updated it
Cacahuate
On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:56 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
The image change I requested is a rather minor display detail affecting only mobile. Not important I guess, or someone might have done something about it. I would have but it requires admin flag to do because it is in a protected template that shows the Discover section on the Wikivoyage Main Page. If you're interested, I discussed it here:
http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Discover_section_--_move_Baden_...
Cheers, Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
No not an admin on WV. Where does the photo need swapped?
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote:
James, are you an admin? Maybe you could do the photo swap? I'm not an admin so can't.
Roger
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
We should probably keep the main page and the subpages that make it up uneditable for a bit after the launch. Thanks for fixing this.
James
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote: > > I did some tests on test.wikipedia.org Main Page, where I have admin > flag and can edit Main Page, and found the title="....." attribute is > optional. What it does is add a title to the section. > > We don't want those extra section titles on Wikivoyage Main Page > because we currently use Main Page section titles that link to stuff. > > Mobile looks good now: > http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page > > (drag your browser window to a phone sized width to see) > > However, the Discover section has a problem. The Baden Baden photo > (from last month) should be replaced with a Western Australia photo > (our newest "Discover" item). Could an admin take care of this please. > The [[Template:Discover]] is not editable by normal users at this > time. Say, why don't we fix that? Hint hint... > > The problem is the Baden Baden photo ends up, in the narrow window of > a phone, above the Western Australia item which makes it look like a > photo of Western Australia. Not good. But replacing it with a Western > Australia photo would be logical and would fix this. > > Roger > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM, roger@rogerchrisman.com wrote: >> Is a title="Section name" attribute required for the id="mf-..." div, >> eg: <div id="mf-..." title="Section...">. Can someone confirm, or >> try, >> that? >> >> See: >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_projects/Mobile_Gateway#Global_Prefix >> >> Roger >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org >> wrote: >>> Thanks TheHelpfulOne! >>> >>> Another tip: >>> Adding the class nomobile to elements will remove those from the >>> mobile view. This might be useful for elements you don't want to >>> show >>> on the mobile view. >>> >>> I'd also suggest making the width of "Welcome to Wikivoyage" 100% >>> with >>> on mobile by replacing the style with a class (mobile does not load >>> MediaWiki:Common.css) >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Thehelpfulone >>> thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote: >>>> Thanks Jon - I noticed that Kaldari's edit in early December seemed >>>> to >>>> be >>>> the culprit for the missing sections. I've restored those headers >>>> and >>>> tried >>>> out the mf-content and mf-content2 stuff as you suggested, it's >>>> looking >>>> better but not quite there yet. If anyone else wants to have a poke >>>> at >>>> it to >>>> see if they can fix it, please go ahead and do so. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14 January 2013 01:22, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Luckily this is nice and easy to fix. >>>>> There is a long running bug - >>>>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405 - which >>>>> exists >>>>> due to many mediawiki homepages making use of 2 column layouts >>>>> which >>>>> are not adaptable. As a result of this bug only html elements with >>>>> and >>>>> id prefixed with mp- will be shown. >>>>> >>>>> Anything without this that node will be scrubbed. >>>>> There seems to be a div wrapping the table containing Destination >>>>> of >>>>> the month and Off the beaten path this will need an id with prefix >>>>> 'mf-' >>>>> >>>>> Try renaming instances of mp-content with mf-content >>>>> Also bear in mind an id should be unique and there are 2 >>>>> mf-content >>>>> elements - make the 2nd one mf-content2 >>>>> >>>>> FWIW I hate the Main Page special casing and want to kill it with >>>>> fire. A great way to help with this is to remove dependencies on >>>>> the >>>>> style attribute in your wikitext markup and use classes defined in >>>>> MediaWiki:Common.css >>>>> >>>>> For instance instead of >>>>> <div id="mf-welcome" style="width:40%; text-align:center;"> >>>>> >>>>> Please use >>>>> <div id="mf-welcome" class="portal-column-left"> >>>>> >>>>> where >>>>> >>>>> .portal-column-left { >>>>> width: 40%; >>>>> text-align:center; >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> If you can remove all instances of style=".*" you will have a much >>>>> friendly mobile site. >>>>> >>>>> Grab me on irc.freenode.org #wikimediamobile Monday if you need >>>>> any >>>>> help and want to talk more about the Wikivoyage mobile experience >>>>> in >>>>> general ... I think there are some great opportunities to help >>>>> drive >>>>> the development of all mediawiki mobile sites and I'm very >>>>> excited! >>>>> >>>>> Jon >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> So what do we need to do about this? We need to have it working >>>>>> for >>>>>> the >>>>>> launch. >>>>>> >>>>>> James >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Powers >>>>>> LtPowers_Wiki@rochester.rr.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our mobile site was working fine a few weeks ago. I suspect >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> of the >>>>>>> recent Main Page changes disrupted the display of the mobile >>>>>>> site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Powers &8^] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: James Heilman [mailto:jmh649@gmail.com] >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday 12 January 2013 15:05 >>>>>>> To: Wikivoyage Mailing List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikivoyage-l] Mobile site >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The mobile site is here >>>>>>> http://en.m.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take a look at it >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Peter Coombe >>>>>>> thewub.wiki@googlemail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12 January 2013 17:58, carlb carlb613@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/01/13 12:51, James Heilman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey All >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Currently our mobile site show no content when we go to it. >>>>>>>> Who >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> leading >>>>>>>> the mobile effort? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would propose that the mobile site should show the article >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> persons >>>>>>>> IP address. Thoughts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The mobile site should show the main page in a small-screen >>>>>>>> compatible >>>>>>>> format. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Trying to guess the user's location from an IP wouldn't be >>>>>>>> possible >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> installing additional executable code on the servers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The instructions for setting up a mobile main page are here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepa... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On desktop Wikimedia sites, it is possible to determine the >>>>>>> user's >>>>>>> country - and to some extent city, latitude and longitude, but >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> are often inaccurate. They are stored in the javascript >>>>>>> variables >>>>>>> "Geo.country", "Geo.city", "Geo.lat" and "Geo.lon" >>>>>>> respectively. >>>>>>> Unfortunately this hasn't been implemented on the mobile sites >>>>>>> yet >>>>>>> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pete / the wub >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> James Heilman >>>>>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> James Heilman >>>>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>>>> >>>>>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >>>>>> www.opentextbookofmedicine.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thehelpfulone >>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikivoyage-l mailing list >>> Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l
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