Wikivoyage-l April 2013

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Wikivoyage Labs
by roger＠rogerchrisman.com 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

Hi all, I am attempting to set up a Wikivoyage Labs prototyping wiki, see https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Wikivoyage, which is a WMF resource we can avail ourselves of. I got that far by dint of perseverance over the past couple days. But now I'm up against the hard part of cloning an instance of en.Wikivoyage to do prototyping on. I just don't know how to do it. Does anyone here know how to do this and want to help? The Wikivoyage Labs prototyping wiki I am trying to create (doesn't exist yet) would be for all wikivoyagers to use for hacking up pages and experimenting. We could install extensions and basically do whatever we want that is for the purpose of experimenting with and developing Wikivoyage's look and features. For example, the Main Page there could be hacked up and processed through the Mobile page creator without messing with our production wiki. The whole wiki would be a sandbox. I'd like to see experimental instances of all the language versions of WV there. The experiment I personally have in mind to do first, once we have this set up, is to install the Universal Language Selector extension[1] and see if I can configure it as a way to switch nicely between the various language versions of WV. 1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector My notes to myself about this are on my Labs userpage: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rogerhc I'd love your help, Roger :-)

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Feed-back and advice for another sister project
by Mathias Damour 10 Apr '13

10 Apr '13

Hi, I did follow the Wikivoyage project proposal with interest and I greet the work you have done throw that not so simple process. I am now developing and updating another sister project proposal: Wikikids http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids , an equivalent of Wikipedia for 8-13 years old children. The situation has some similarities with Wikitravel/wikivoyage, for there is existing projects to be adopted (I opened Vikidia in French, which is one of the two independent such wikis already well developed.) Actually, we won't have the difficulty to deal with an unwilling wiki owner as it happened for Wikitravel. I guess that the difficulty will be rather to choose how to deal with the very neighbouring scope of Simple English Wikipedia. We had recently an answer/question from a representative of the other similar (and well working) wiki WikiKids.nl that could also be adopted and join the project : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikikids#WikiKids_in_the_Netherlands He asks "what would that mean for us" to be a sisterproject of Wikimedia. That leaded me to you, what would you reply ? What are the advantages of being a sisterproject of Wikimedia, especially for those that already were ran as non-profit ? I read the January thread "Reflections" ( http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikivoyage-l/2013-January/thread.html#… ) that seems to show that the (re-)launching spot a big light on your project and a big impulse. That was just during or short after the notice on the Wikimedia projects. Do you have a more complete sight a bit more than 2 months after that ? Beside 2 Wikikids-like projects that are doing well, we opened Vikidia in es: and it: in which didn't work so well. I wonder if it can give another chance for them to develop. I've read the submissions for Wikimania 2013 in Hong Kong "Creating a new sister project, the re-birth of Wikivoyage": http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Creating_a_new_sister_p… Moreover, any advice for the next steps of this proposal or criticism on how it's displayed now would be welcomed ! Thanks ! -- Mathias Damour 49 rue Carnot F-74000 Annecy 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 mathias.damour(a)laposte.net http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays

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Reflections
by Mattias Sweden 07 Apr '13

07 Apr '13

Hello all, a few reflections from the swedish horizon, after a few days under the WMF umbrella: We have had an influx of serious, logged-in contributors, mainly from Wikipedia in swedish, but also a couple of new stars. That's great! We have also had a number of serious anonymous edits. That's even better! Of course, we have also had our fair share of vandalism, both anonymous as well as logged-in users. That's less nice, but it was expected. So, thanks to all involved, it seems we're all well on our way! Judging by the serious edits we have had on sv:, I have come to realise that two guidelines/policies are crucial to us in this phase of the project, namely "Welcome, Wikipedians" and "How to re-use Wikipedia content". The latter guideline has a correspondence on Wikitravel Shared ( http://wikitravel.org/shared/How_to_re-use_Wikipedia_content), but I do not see any current correspondent on any of the other language versions, except sv:. I checked the language versions (i.e. the ones currently online) and it seems that it:, nl:, pt: and es: lack "Welcome Wikipedians". All language versions except sv: seem to lack "How to re-use Wikipedia content". I'd like to suggest that anyone with lingustical capability, active on the language versions without these two guidelines, translate these guidelines, since it will be of great help to you. On sv:, we also added the aforementioned guidelines to our welcome message, in the hope that it may reduce the amount of explanation needed. It seems to work! All the best from a snowy and cold Sweden, Riggwelter/Mattias

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Re: [Wikivoyage-l] 2 new Wikivoyage language versions
by Yaroslav M. Blanter 01 Apr '13

01 Apr '13

On 28.03.2013 18:47, carlb wrote: > On 28/03/13 11:44, MF-Warburg wrote: > >> Dear all, >> I'm pleased to be able to announce that Wikivoyage Hebrew [1] and >> Wikivoyage Ukrainian [2] have been opened today and are now open for >> editing. > Any word on Finnish, Hungarian, Romanian and Chinese? > Romanian is up and running, and, from what I can see, badly needs new editors. Cheers Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikivoyage-l] 2 new Wikivoyage language versions
by Yaroslav M. Blanter 01 Apr '13

01 Apr '13

On 28.03.2013 16:44, MF-Warburg wrote: > Dear all, > I'm pleased to be able to announce that Wikivoyage Hebrew [1] and > Wikivoyage Ukrainian [2] have been opened today and are now open for > editing. > > These are the first Wikivoyage editions that started completely new > on Incubator (there were a few pre-existing pages in Wikitravel, which > the contributors made use of, but no really developed wikis); and also > the first two not in Latin script. > > [1] https://he.wikivoyage.org [1] > [2] https://uk.wikivoyage.org [2] > My belated (I was travelling) congratulations to the communities of Hebrew and Ukraininan Wikivoyage. Cheers Yaroslav

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