I would agree were Wikinews a far, far more active project. In such
circumstances Wikinews would do the news, and it would be filtered to a
small section on the Wikipedia main page.
Brian.
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Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikipedia's 'In the news'
I have my stance on Wikipedia and the news section. Wikipedia is an
online encyclopedia. Not a news site. Whether or not it was around
before Wikinews makes no difference. The mere fact that Wikipedia has a
news section, makes it almost like Wikinews is to compete with them.
There would be no real problem, other than those who would scream about
it, to move the Wikipedia news to Wikinews. There would be nothing lost
on Wikipedia, given the fact Wikinews and WP are run by the same
foundation and are all sister projects. I hear the same argument of
"Wikinews is not a reliable news site", but there is no logical reason
for Wikipedia to have a news section. It just seems, in my opinion, that
having it on Wikipedia, just takes one of the fundamental goals of WMF
away: collaboration.
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Jason Safoutin
Wikinews accredited reporter and administrator
jason.safoutin@wikinewsie.org
Fred Bauder wrote:
>> Something that has often confused me is Wikipedia's 'In the news'
>> section.
>>
>> More often than not, the stories are the exact same as Wikinews', and
>> in my opinion the presence of this section on Wikipedia actually stops
>> people visiting Wikinews, as they can get all their important news off
>> Wikipedia.
>>
>> To me, it seems counterproductive that a news story (I know Wikipedia
>> doesn't do news, but current events often is effectively a news story)
>> has to effectively be written twice (once on Wikinews and once on
>> Wikipedia, due to licensing issues) when both projects are hosted by
>> the same people and share a common goal: to provide free content.
>>
>> Could the two somehow be linked closer than a mere hyperlink? Could
>> Wikipedia grab Wikinews' feed for the 'In the news' section or could
>> content be copied off Wikinews onto Wikipedia once the new licence has
>> been implemented?
>>
>> Would Wikinews not really benefit if current events editors on
>> Wikipedia moved over to it?
>>
>> I'm sure this has been discussed hundreds of times but I am curious
>> what the past consensus has been.
>>
>
> The current events section on Wikipedia has been a feature of the front
> page almost from the beginning, long before Wikinews was a project. It is
> simply a partial record of the major stories of the day, not an
> independent report of the news. (This is not quite true as those
> Wikipedians who control the front page have some editorial influence on
> what is highlighted). It is rather mediocre and spotty in its coverage,
> including some very minor stories and missing some major stories. It
> definitely needs attention by people who are news oriented, although it
> could go in different potential directions. The stories included
> contribute to article development with active work often occurring on the
> subjects of the stories, thus it is part of the dynamics of how Wikipedia
> works. It would be a shame to disrupt that dynamic.
>
> Fred Bauder
>
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