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Dear all,
I've had this idea that I would like to share. Do you know how people can say that Wikipedia is a very popular site because every time they look something up on Google, they see the Wikipedia article among the first links provided? I think that is one of the best proofs of Wikipedia's success, and so I also think we should urgently make it one of our priorities to get Wikinews' stories onto Google News.
Some of them actually get on there already, thanks to 1) other news sites reusing our content and 2) Wikinews Reports, our blog which Jason Safoutin (User:DragonFire1024) got onto Google News. Getting our content stories on popular sites has been tried before, but some attempts failed because the stories needed to get copied manually, which can be time consuming. That when Craig Spurrier (User:Cspurrier) set up this great script at http://thenewswiki.com/, a url he happened to own (apparently that hasn't been updated recently). Another recent improvement has been the site http://www.wikinewsie.org set up by Brian McNeil (User:brianmc).
So you see, we've ended up with 3 different external sites which were set up for 3 different reasons. My idea is to merge these 3 together, as I think this would get all of our news stories on Google News. I think the best way to do it is to set up Craig's script on wikinewsie.org, and move the blog over there too. That way wikinewsie.org would provide not only email addresses for reporters, but also a blog similar to what we have now, and it would get all our stories on Google News.
So, what do we need to get on Google News? I'll tell you:
- Reliable information without vandalism. They don't want stuff anyone can edit. However, we can have an approved-versions format, like the German Wikipedia has. This would involve trusted users who could approve of story updates.
- The outward appearance of a typical newspaper setup. We need some evidence of a community behind the stories.
- original reporting. Google News is a news aggregator itself, so it won't list other aggregators.
- Articles in a format google news can aggregate.
Google News refused to list http://thenewswiki.com/ because 1) the site didn't show evidence of a community of journalists and editors, and 2) was in fact an aggregator of stories from Wikinews. We can change that by merging all 3 sites together. That way, we can have a review process for Wikinews articles to ensure quality content, on a site with a community behind it, and in a format that Google can handle. If we want to do this, we need original reporting on wikinewsie.org . This can be achieved if all OR is originally published on that site, and then gets copied onto Wikinews.
I've been told that wikinewsie.org is still being set up, that we shouldn't do this because we wouldn't want to risk what we have now, ... but I think we should, because things would be less scattered, all goals would still be achieved and it would get all of our stories on Google News.
Sorry that this turned out to become such a lengthy post, let me know what you think of my idea! I'll quickly summarise:
1. I think getting all of Wikinews' stories on Google News is a top priority
2. I think we can achieve this goal by merging our Wikinews Reports blog and TheNewsWiki.com into our current reporter site wikinewsie.org.
cheers, User:Stevenfruitsmaak
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On behalf of Erik Moeller:
The Wikimedia Foundation, which operates Wikipedia, is looking to
appoint a new Treasurer to its Board of Trustees, effective December
2007. The term for the current Treasurer has ended.
The Wikimedia Board of Trustees manages the Foundation and supervises
the disposition and solicitation of donations. The Board of Trustees
is the ultimate corporate authority in the Wikimedia Foundation Inc.
Board members are unpaid volunteers who are excited about supporting
the international charitable mission of the Wikimedia Foundation: to
bring free knowledge to the entire planet.
=== ROLE SUMMARY ===
Required duties include, but are not limited to the following:
* Manage, with the finance committee to be created, the board's review
of and action related to the board's financial responsibilities;
* Work with the chief executive to ensure that appropriate financial
reports are made available to the board. Regularly reviews reports to
board on key financial events, trends, concerns, and assessment of
fiscal health;
* May work directly with the bookkeeper or other staff in developing
and implementing financial procedures and systems;
* Serves as support to the financial officer of the organization and
as chairperson of the finance committee;
* Serves on the audit committee;
* Review the annual budget that is presented to the balance of the
board for approval;
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* Provides financial and operational advice and guidance to the board
as required.
===REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS===
* Maintains knowledge of the organization and has a personal
commitment to its goals and objectives;
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* Must be comfortable in a highly collaborative, consensus-oriented environment;
* Accounting and financial background - an accounting or other
financial designation (i.e. CPA, CA, CFA, or other International
equivalent), with a thorough understanding of American GAAP.
* MBA or business degree would be helpful, although not required;
* Some experience with legal frameworks and contracts would be helpful;
* Background or familiarity with fundraising would be an asset;
* Has previously served as a treasurer on another non-profit board (at
least five years);
* Willing to commit time for board meetings, committee meetings and
special events;
* Works well in a group, is able to work with a decentralized
international team, using electronic communication tools.
=== EXPECTED TIME COMMITMENT ===
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per year, which may possibly be held outside of the USA. In addition,
participation in the Foundation's annual conference would be
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time expectations would be reviewing quarterly reports, budgets, and
policies and helping to oversee the audit process.
=== CONTACT ===
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Foundation. This message expresses the views of a single
Wikimedia user and not necessarily the community at large.
I concur. My vote is to continue with the three
month block, and to make sure that he doesn't
do anything like this again. This is his last chance in
my book. If I see him doing something, I hope that I
have the community support for a perma-block.
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_______________________________________________
DISCLAIMER: I hold no official position in the Wikimedia
Foundation. This message expresses the views of a single
Wikimedia user and not necessarily the community at large.
---- Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil(a)openvms-rocks.com> wrote:
> The issue after a 3-month block is not do we want to extend it. I would hope
> Ed has got his shit together by then and won't test the limits anymore. The
> issue will be has he evaded it?
>
> We all know the temptation to fix this detail here and things like that.
> Personally I don't mind if Ed is doing that. It is the comments and other
> contentious material that concerns me.
>
> The exchange of emails with Ed is where he asserts "testing the limits" with
> homophobic and confrontational statements. *Once* I am prepared to accept he
> has "tested the community" and found them egalitarian equal-opportunists.
> However any further divisive and inflammatory statements and I will perm.
> block.
>
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bawolff(a)gmail.com [mailto:bawolff@gmail.com] On Behalf Of bawolff
> Sent: 26 October 2007 22:06
> To: The Fearow
> Cc: wikinewsenarbcom(a)googlegroups.com; messedrocker(a)gmail.com;
> cute24minbflo(a)yahoo.com; jacques.divol(a)laposte.net; haykinson(a)gmail.com;
> wm-thunderhead(a)charter.net; bcanderton(a)gmail.com;
> brian.mcneil(a)openvms-rocks.com; davidshankbone(a)gmail.com;
> michael.laurent(a)gmail.com; nzgabriel(a)gmail.com; fellowwikinews(a)gmail.com;
> ironiridis(a)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Ed brown's explanation for his actions
>
> I disagree with unblocking him because he wants to be blocked (whether
> its reverse physcolgy or not, I think the community and him need some
> time away from each other at a minimum). I think a 3 months block is a
> necessary minimum.
>
> The email I used to contact him is his old email, which i have had for
> quite a while (I think from before he joined the arbitration
> committee.) Anyways, by his manner of speaking on the email, I'm
> convinced its him.
>
> Here is my idea for how to deal with
>
> 1.Block for 3 months to begin with.
>
> 2.At the end of 3 months, hold straw pole in community for how we want
> to deal with this (block for three more months (or forever), unblock
> unconditionally, unblock with code of conduct or other conditions,
> etc).
>
> I this is not really the point in time to be discussing conditions.
>
> -bawolff
>
> On 10/26/07, The Fearow <fearow00(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I agree. Although I think we should immediately unblock him, since in his
> > email he specifically said he wanted to be blocked to continue with life.
> > Although that doesnt make sense, that would make unblocking a punishment,
> > whereas blocking would be doing what he wants. Secondly, does anyone have
> > any older email addresses or RL contact that could be used to make sure
> that
> > all his passwords werent hacked?
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:03:00 -0700
> > From: cute24minbflo(a)yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: Ed brown's explanation for his actions
> > To: ironiridis(a)gmail.com; bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com
> > CC: WikinewsENArbcom(a)googlegroups.com;
> > messedrocker(a)gmail.com; cute24minbflo(a)yahoo.com;
> jacques.divol(a)laposte.net;
> > haykinson(a)gmail.com; wm-thunderhead(a)charter.net; bcanderton(a)gmail.com;
> > brian.mcneil(a)openvms-rocks.com; davidshankbone(a)gmail.com;
> > michael.laurent(a)gmail.com; nzgabriel(a)gmail.com; FellowWikiNews(a)gmail.com;
> > fearow00(a)hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > (Reply below after a NOTE: Please send all Wikinews related mails, in the
> > future, to: jason.safoutin(a)wikinewsie.org. I am in the process of shutting
> > down this account)
> >
> > IF this is a test, then I am Rick James Bitch...bah...He knew what he was
> > doing and it matters not what his agenda was or if he had one. What does
> > matter is 1) He was aware of all his actions and the results that would
> come
> > form them 2) he did this to himself and no one else. 3) If eloquence acted
> > the same way I would respond in the same way.
> >
> > I could care less about his mental state and frankly we have no right to
> > make any assessment on his behavior because we don't actually know him.
> None
> > of us, as far as I know, never seen him in real life so for us to say he
> is
> > senile, or just crazy is disrespectful, regardless of how he treated
> > anybody. I say that because he is blocked, and his pages protected. He is
> > silent and will be until his block is up. If he does not behave, then we
> > wipe out his existence on Wikinews. I do not condone his actions in the
> > least, but we have done what we can up to this point and insulting him or
> > his personality through an unprofessional opinion, it not only makes
> things
> > worse and makes us look bad, but also prevents any hope of ArbCom
> working...
> >
> > Setting that aside, if Ed didn't care about the fact that we blocked all
> his
> > IPs and Users, then he would leave it at that and wait for his block to be
> > up. No he didn't apologize and he won't, but I have been around Wikinews
> > long enough to know that his "gang" of buddies, aka Neutralizer, and
> > international are not around anymore so all he has is to occasionally go
> on
> > a rampage...no its not good, but as I see it most of our current admins
> have
> > been blocked a time or two for attacks and such...
> >
> > Plain and simple: he straightens up, makes USEFUL and productive edits,
> > stops with his hisst fits, or get banned....it cannot be any easier than
> > that.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > Christopher Harrington <ironiridis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Are you kidding me?! I'm offended by his sheer gall. Insensitive or not, I
> > am officially calling mental illness here.
> >
> > What's with the "my account has not been hijacked that I know of"...
> almost
> > as if he didn't understand that he's done something wrong.
> >
> > This is absolutely unacceptable, and shows premeditation. If he needs a
> > three month break, let's give him six, so we're sure he's had plenty of
> time
> > to mow his lawn in the spring, too.
> >
> > This pisses me off. I really wanted to believe that he wasn't cognizant of
> > his misconduct. He's on my shit list now. >:(
> >
> > -ironiridis
> >
> >
> > On 10/25/07, bawolff <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > This message is being forwarded to the wikinews admins (those whom I
> > have an email address for) + David (since his involvement with these
> > events, and he is almost an admin).
> > I think i only sent to active admins. If I sent to you and you haven't
> > looked at wikinews in 6 months and don't care, sorry - please ignore
> > (or if you have an opinion, feel free to voice it).
> >
> > Basically Ed says that he did what he did as a test. Personally I
> > don't think we should change our opinions on blocking him based on
> > this (test or not, its still being an idiot. This is WN:POINT to an
> > extreme ), but I felt I should forward it to everyone.
> >
> > My opinion is we should block for three months. and that at this time
> > figure out as a community if we wish to forgive his "test", or if we
> > want to continue blocking.
> >
> > Note: I responded to his email saying that I'm glad he wasn't crazy,
> > I've forwarded to all the admins, I disagree with his actions, if
> > you're a wikiholic, try putting it in your hosts file.
> >
> > If you wish to talk about this by email, I recommend hitting reply
> > all, so we all get responses.
> >
> > I received this email from ed.
> > On 10/24/07, Ed Brown <edbrown(a)msn.com > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > After a quick scan of the administrative action alerts page, it appears
> > to
> > > me that en.wikinews has accurately identified me with the questionable
> > edits
> > > and remarks. Nobody has taken over my account that I am aware of. There
> > may
> > > some mimic activity by anons, but I edit from and IP that does not
> change
> > > very often.
> > >
> > > This is a difficult mail to write. Like SVTCobra, who took a break to
> work
> > > on some real life issues, I too have some very real time issues to
> > resolve.
> > > I have been on the brink of being irresponsible to those. My health is
> > good,
> > > and I am definitely neither senile nor suffering from a personality
> > > disorder. I am suffering from an inability to not contribute. How weird
> I
> > > would get myself blocked to fix that<!>
> > >
> > > Laughing! Anyway, I have to take it light heartedly because when Amgine
> > jams
> > > out possibly because the pressure becomes to much, Neut gets the kick
> for
> > > intellectual arrogance, Ilya fears getting into the fray because any
> > misstep
> > > may be a disaster to that person, and I cannot get 3 faucets installed
> > that
> > > I bought back in January, well some thing has got to change.
> > >
> > > Yes, I bought those faucets 10 months ago for two bathrooms and a
> kitchen,
> > > and they have gone uninstalled. I could call a plumber, but I don't need
> > > one. I need for me to get off my butt and do it. So the question I have
> > > asked myself is this, am I blaming en.wkinews for me not installing the
> > > fixtures? Yes
> > >
> > > So the lover of wikinews that I am, turned to the community itself and
> > > performed a test. Homophobic? No I am not, I turned to the community to
> > see
> > > how it would respond. In a strange way, I am proud of the response,
> > because
> > > it proves that it is working. I've always been a 'just do it' kind of
> > > person. I need a 3-month block, but not perma banned.
> > >
> > > With regard to my accreditation, I would never cross over the line of
> what
> > > would be my best and honest effort at reporting, that is how much I care
> > > about news and the site. If my accreditation gets taken away, hopefully
> I
> > > can earn it back if I feel I need it.
> > >
> > > My own objection to my actions: you performed a test at wikinews that
> was
> > > hurtful to others? Yes I did. The lowest common denominator has always
> > been
> > > a fascination of mine. An open process like wikinews will (in its
> present
> > > form) be open to the lowest common denominator. Explore, explore,
> explore.
> > I
> > > did that, in self interest, and my interests have been served now that I
> > am
> > > blocked.
> > >
> > > Now I have a donation to make, and gads what a mess under my kitchen
> sink!
> > >
> > > I trust you bawolff to do with this mail as you see fit.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: bawolff
> > > To: edbrown(a)msn.com
> > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:56 PM
> > > Subject: Wikinews stuff
> > >
> > > Recently there has been lots of comments coming from your account on
> > > the english wikinews, that is quite frankly beneath you and not
> > > consistant with your edits in previous times. Homophobic personal
> > > attacks, using socks, etc. I just wanted to email you to make sure
> > > that it is actually you talking, and that your account has not been
> > > taken over.
> > >
> > > If this is actually you, I want to suggest that you take a step back,
> > > and look whats happening, bearing in mind everyone always has their
> > > own part to play. To be blunt, what your currently doing is really not
> > > helping anything other then making you look like an absolute idiot
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Bawolff
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > - Brian
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I appriciate Ed telling us why he acted in the manner that
he did. Personally, I feel that we as a community should discuss
this, and continue the block until it's expiration unless an alternative
is discussed. I believe that we should create, and ask Ed to abide by
a Conduct Doctrine which would act as an ArbCom ruling which gives
Administrators more leeway in blocking over conduct. If Ed is truly the
Wikinewsie that he says he is, and if he wishes to continue his work
here, than he can abide by a Conduct Doctrine. I've included an example
of one below:
1) Within regards to the Wikinews 3-revert-rule, Edbrown05 is now limited
to 2 reverts per day, excluding simple vandalism. Breaking this policy may result
in a ban, as is applicable to the WN:3RR policy.
2) Personal attacks against another user will immediatly result in a 72-hour ban, no
matter what the cause, or explanation. Talk page should be locked if any other
attacks are attempted.
--
Thunderhead
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Thunderheadhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead
_______________________________________________
DISCLAIMER: I hold no official position in the Wikimedia
Foundation. This message expresses the views of a single
Wikimedia user and not necessarily the community at large.
---- jason safoutin <cute24minbflo(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> (Reply below after a NOTE: Please send all Wikinews related mails, in the future, to: jason.safoutin(a)wikinewsie.org. I am in the process of shutting down this account)
>
> IF this is a test, then I am Rick James Bitch...bah...He knew what he was doing and it matters not what his agenda was or if he had one. What does matter is 1) He was aware of all his actions and the results that would come form them 2) he did this to himself and no one else. 3) If eloquence acted the same way I would respond in the same way.
>
> I could care less about his mental state and frankly we have no right to make any assessment on his behavior because we don't actually know him. None of us, as far as I know, never seen him in real life so for us to say he is senile, or just crazy is disrespectful, regardless of how he treated anybody. I say that because he is blocked, and his pages protected. He is silent and will be until his block is up. If he does not behave, then we wipe out his existence on Wikinews. I do not condone his actions in the least, but we have done what we can up to this point and insulting him or his personality through an unprofessional opinion, it not only makes things worse and makes us look bad, but also prevents any hope of ArbCom working...
>
> Setting that aside, if Ed didn't care about the fact that we blocked all his IPs and Users, then he would leave it at that and wait for his block to be up. No he didn't apologize and he won't, but I have been around Wikinews long enough to know that his "gang" of buddies, aka Neutralizer, and international are not around anymore so all he has is to occasionally go on a rampage...no its not good, but as I see it most of our current admins have been blocked a time or two for attacks and such...
>
> Plain and simple: he straightens up, makes USEFUL and productive edits, stops with his hisst fits, or get banned....it cannot be any easier than that.
>
> Jason
>
> Christopher Harrington <ironiridis(a)gmail.com> wrote: Are you kidding me?! I'm offended by his sheer gall. Insensitive or not, I am officially calling mental illness here.
>
> What's with the "my account has not been hijacked that I know of"... almost as if he didn't understand that he's done something wrong.
>
> This is absolutely unacceptable, and shows premeditation. If he needs a three month break, let's give him six, so we're sure he's had plenty of time to mow his lawn in the spring, too.
>
> This pisses me off. I really wanted to believe that he wasn't cognizant of his misconduct. He's on my shit list now. >:(
>
> -ironiridis
>
> On 10/25/07, bawolff <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote: This message is being forwarded to the wikinews admins (those whom I
> have an email address for) + David (since his involvement with these
> events, and he is almost an admin).
> I think i only sent to active admins. If I sent to you and you haven't
> looked at wikinews in 6 months and don't care, sorry - please ignore
> (or if you have an opinion, feel free to voice it).
>
> Basically Ed says that he did what he did as a test. Personally I
> don't think we should change our opinions on blocking him based on
> this (test or not, its still being an idiot. This is WN:POINT to an
> extreme ), but I felt I should forward it to everyone.
>
> My opinion is we should block for three months. and that at this time
> figure out as a community if we wish to forgive his "test", or if we
> want to continue blocking.
>
> Note: I responded to his email saying that I'm glad he wasn't crazy,
> I've forwarded to all the admins, I disagree with his actions, if
> you're a wikiholic, try putting it in your hosts file.
>
> If you wish to talk about this by email, I recommend hitting reply
> all, so we all get responses.
>
> I received this email from ed.
> On 10/24/07, Ed Brown <edbrown(a)msn.com > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > After a quick scan of the administrative action alerts page, it appears to
> > me that en.wikinews has accurately identified me with the questionable edits
> > and remarks. Nobody has taken over my account that I am aware of. There may
> > some mimic activity by anons, but I edit from and IP that does not change
> > very often.
> >
> > This is a difficult mail to write. Like SVTCobra, who took a break to work
> > on some real life issues, I too have some very real time issues to resolve.
> > I have been on the brink of being irresponsible to those. My health is good,
> > and I am definitely neither senile nor suffering from a personality
> > disorder. I am suffering from an inability to not contribute. How weird I
> > would get myself blocked to fix that<!>
> >
> > Laughing! Anyway, I have to take it light heartedly because when Amgine jams
> > out possibly because the pressure becomes to much, Neut gets the kick for
> > intellectual arrogance, Ilya fears getting into the fray because any misstep
> > may be a disaster to that person, and I cannot get 3 faucets installed that
> > I bought back in January, well some thing has got to change.
> >
> > Yes, I bought those faucets 10 months ago for two bathrooms and a kitchen,
> > and they have gone uninstalled. I could call a plumber, but I don't need
> > one. I need for me to get off my butt and do it. So the question I have
> > asked myself is this, am I blaming en.wkinews for me not installing the
> > fixtures? Yes
> >
> > So the lover of wikinews that I am, turned to the community itself and
> > performed a test. Homophobic? No I am not, I turned to the community to see
> > how it would respond. In a strange way, I am proud of the response, because
> > it proves that it is working. I've always been a 'just do it' kind of
> > person. I need a 3-month block, but not perma banned.
> >
> > With regard to my accreditation, I would never cross over the line of what
> > would be my best and honest effort at reporting, that is how much I care
> > about news and the site. If my accreditation gets taken away, hopefully I
> > can earn it back if I feel I need it.
> >
> > My own objection to my actions: you performed a test at wikinews that was
> > hurtful to others? Yes I did. The lowest common denominator has always been
> > a fascination of mine. An open process like wikinews will (in its present
> > form) be open to the lowest common denominator. Explore, explore, explore. I
> > did that, in self interest, and my interests have been served now that I am
> > blocked.
> >
> > Now I have a donation to make, and gads what a mess under my kitchen sink!
> >
> > I trust you bawolff to do with this mail as you see fit.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: bawolff
> > To: edbrown(a)msn.com
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:56 PM
> > Subject: Wikinews stuff
> >
> > Recently there has been lots of comments coming from your account on
> > the english wikinews, that is quite frankly beneath you and not
> > consistant with your edits in previous times. Homophobic personal
> > attacks, using socks, etc. I just wanted to email you to make sure
> > that it is actually you talking, and that your account has not been
> > taken over.
> >
> > If this is actually you, I want to suggest that you take a step back,
> > and look whats happening, bearing in mind everyone always has their
> > own part to play. To be blunt, what your currently doing is really not
> > helping anything other then making you look like an absolute idiot
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Bawolff
> >
>
>
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There is currently an arbitration case open for Edbrown.
All arbitrators should give an opinion on this case, or either
recuse themselves from voting. Members of the community are
welcome to comment on the case.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/WN:RFAr
--
Thunderhead
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Thunderheadhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead
_______________________________________________
DISCLAIMER: I hold no official position in the Wikimedia
Foundation. This message expresses the views of a single
Wikimedia user and not necessarily the community at large.
This saddens me very greatly, but I have requested the first
revocation of credentials on the english wikinews. see :
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/WN:AR
This is the first revoc request I'm aware of (even some people who
left the project on not the greatest of terms still have it), but I
feel the user truly no longer represents the community
-bawolff
I've been a contributor for a few years now, joining in May 2005.
Despite having an account for over two years, I have less then 1000
edits. I wasn't the most active user "onwiki". I actually still remember
my first time on Wikinews.
Two years ago, I had an assignment where I was supposed to journalize
the a news report every day, I never did, and would do it as a whole
batch in one day. To make my life easy, I would use AP's Online Database
and search for news by date. This worked most of the time.
One day, however, AP's website was down, and the assignment due the next
day... Remembering that Wikipedia had a current event's section, I
checked it out... somehow navigating a link to Wikinews in the process.
So I digested a news article from every day, breaking the license of the
time (not attributing), and fixing a few spelling mistakes. I found a
link to CGI:IRC and said "hi" to the channel, with Amgine responding
with a cool "Nice edits". The warmth lasted until dinner was finished
cooking (a few minutes time, if I remember)
I got an "A" on the assignment.
The next August I returned with editing on Wikinews, creating the now
infamous, Wikinews Leet edition (which hasn't been edited since August
2005, so don't get your hopes up). A few days later, Katrina formed. I
was active almost 24/7 until it landed, Amgine later saying that I
"covered the storm, until the storm covered me", and the infamous
Hurricane 2005 Season went through, including Florida's infamous
"Wilma". (I had kept journal notes for both Katrina and Wilma, during
the times I could report, however both didn't survive).
I saw the raise of Wikinews, from a sideproject of Wikipedia, to a
project that could really be something good (we still, at this time,
IMHO, need Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation). I saw the end of the
first generation of "Wikinewsies" (although I don't think the term was
used at the time). I was around as the new crown came up. I might not
have edited altogether much, but the community saw me (and still sees
me, as I note with the salutes in the IRC channel) as a great contributor.
I've been putting off this for the last couple of months, but I think
it's been very similar to MrM's last days. I have a couple problems in
real life that I need to deal with. Some of them I've put on myself,
others are reactions of actions of others. In either case, I'm
re-prioritizing them in my life, so that I can fix them. My leaving
isn't because of the community, I'm not angry at Wikinews or any
Wikinewsies. I hope to be able to return to the project, hopefully
sooner rather than later. It might be 6 months, a year, maybe 2. Maybe
longer than that.
The current community on Wikinews (and without a doubt, the first
generation as well), is an awesome community. Everyone knows each other,
we aren't too small to be boring, but not too large to be confusing.
I've developed relationship onwiki that will survive offwiki.
I've already posted my last edit on Wikinews, this is my last posting on
Wikinews-l, I'll be unsubscribing in a few days. Again, it's been a
great time editing with this community, I will never forget the good
times I've enjoyed with you guys. Most of you guys have my contact
information, for others, Brianmc has stated that he'll be keeping my
wikinewsie.org address (this one) active. I'll be keeping an eye onwiki.
Don't be afraid to contact me. And keep an eye out for my Request for
Reconfirmation, when it shows up, you'll know I'm back.
Many newscasters through the years have signed off of their broadcast
with it, and it seems fitting that I do the same here, as I sign off of
Wikinews.
"Goodnight, and good luck."
--
[[User:Terinjokes|Terinjokes]]
I saw this post<http://wikinewsreports.blogspot.com/2007/10/so-many-conferences-so-little-m…>on
the wikinews reports blog aggregated on
en.planet <http://en.planet.wikimedia.org> and then on google when i
searched. Could we say from now on that with the news wikinewsie blog that
we keep opinions on there and post ony news stories and no opinion on the
blogspot one. IMO if were going to be taken seriously as a news provider by
blog then we need to cut out the opinions which can now be posted
elsewhere. also i think that opinions on the wikinews reports blog kinda
goes against the community spirt thing because it's one persons opinion and
not everyones.
well thoughts??
mark
