Wikinews-l September 2005

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Re: uncertainty of CC (Was: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews is now CC-BY)
by Jean-Baptiste Soufron 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

> Is it possible for Wikinews to be dual-licensed with both CC-BY 2.5 > and WNL? If it is, it should be. Of course it would be possible, and I would say that it would be one of the best solution. Maybe even WNL+CCBY2.5+GFDL > I think a lot of people voted for BY 2.5 because they recognize the CC > "brand" without understanding the full legal implications of the > license, while at the same time not believing that an effective > license could be as short and simple as our home-grown WNL. Exactly. And that's why I hope the license policy of wn will evolve. Jean-Baptiste Soufron, CERSA-CNRS PARIS 2

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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews is now CC-BY
by Angela 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

On 9/25/05, Aphaia <aphaia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Any edits made previously remain public domain - it is only new edits > > that will need to be under this Creative Commons License. > > you meant in fact "remain public domain or the other licence which > each project had chosen", I suppose. Yes, that is what I meant. Edits remain whatever they originally were (often PD, but I realise this wasn't the case for some wikis). If any text was licensed under something not compatible with CC-BY, it might be best to protect those pages and note on them that they were licensed under <whatever>. > One technical question: can "CC-By-2.1-(a certain country) or later" > switch to merely "CC-By-2.5" or "CC-By-2.5-(another certain country)? I don't know enough about the iCommons licenses to know whether that switch is permitted. Angela

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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews is now CC-BY
by Angela 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

On 9/25/05, Dariusz Siedlecki <datrio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Quick question - does that mean Wikinews is going out of Beta now? No, it doesn't. I'd say it's certainly a step towards moving out of beta, but not the only condition. It's probably more useful to think about specific language versions going out of beta rather than Wikinews as whole doing so, since some will reach that stage much sooner than others. Erik proposed some criteria earlier this year, which suggested that before moving out of beta, a Wikinews site should have a large number of new stories every day, RSS feeds, regular original reporting and associated policies, solid fact-checking, review and an archival process. See <http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikinews-l/2005-March/000079.html> and related mails in that thread. Angela.

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Wikinews is now CC-BY
by Angela 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

The Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License was the most supported license in the recent poll at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Licensure_Poll>. Many of the options had very few voters. Of the options with more than 12 voters, the GFDL had only 21% support, and the Wikinews License 0.2 had 60% support (or 64% from Wikinewsies). Fewer people voted on the Wikinews License option than on the Creative Commons one, meaning 31 people in total supported CC-BY, compared to just 17 supporting WNL 2.0. With over 87% support from Wikinewsies in the poll, and 82% support overall, CC-BY has now been agreed upon by the Wikimedia Foundation to be the new license for all existing and future versions of Wikinews. Any edits made previously remain public domain - it is only new edits that will need to be under this Creative Commons License. The license can be read at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ (that page links to other language versions of the license, and the full legal code). Brion has changed the site settings, so the meta data of the wikis should state they are now CC-BY. However, manually created pages such as http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Copyright will need to be updated. MediaWiki namespace pages may need changing if they had been edited previously. Pages that might need changing include: [[MediaWiki:Copyright]], [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]], [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2]], [[MediaWiki:Copyrightpage]], [[Project:Copyrights]]. I would appreciate it if you could translate this message into the language of your Wikinews so that all members of the community are aware of the change. Angela -- Angela Beesley Wikimedia Foundation

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The Wikinews Licensure Poll is closed
by Dariusz Siedlecki 21 Sep '05

21 Sep '05

After two weeks of voting, the Wikinews community has chosen which license they'd like for their project. I won't post the full results here, but you can view them on Meta - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Licensure_Poll Now... The winner is CC-By 2.5, with the attribution to the Wiki. The license is one-way-compatible with the GFDL. It gained 27 votes of support from Wikinewsies with only four votes against. It needs to be mentioned, that the GFDL gained 11 opposing votes from Wikinewsies, with only one vote of support. But the combination of GFDL and CC-By 2.5 gained 8 votes of support, with only one opposing vote. The Wikinews License 0.2, based on the BSD license, gained 14 votes of support, but 8 people were against it. Not many people were interested in the other licenses, so... I think that's it. The Wikinews community choosed CC-By 2.5 for the Wikinews project. Now it's up to the Board to decide on the project license. So... What does everyone say? -- Pozdrawiam, Dariusz "Datrio" Siedlecki

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Wikinews Licensure Poll
by Amgine 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

The Wikinews Licensure Poll, which was delayed until 2000 UTC September 6th, is currently open for voting. The poll is to learn the community's opinion as to an appropriate copyright licensure for Wikinews, to inform the Wikimedia Foundation Board as they consider options for the project. The poll is located at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Licensure_Poll There are many options in the poll, including: * BSD license * CC-by 2.5 * CC-by-sa 2.5 * GFDL * Wikinews License v 0.1 * Wikinews License v 0.2 As well there are options for various multilicensing options. The poll is an open vote, meaning anyone may vote for as many options as they feel would be appropriate, and community members may vote both for or against options. Votes are being polled with Wikinews contributors for/against, and other Wikimedians for/against, so there can be a comparison of opinions if there is a difference. Please take a moment to look at the options and give your opinion, to help the board out in their considerations. Amgine

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Wikinews writing contest underway!
by Erik Moeller 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

The first International Wikinews Writing Contest (IWWC) is now underway. If you are a contestant, please register (link) your contributions every day in the log, e.g. under http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/International_Wikinews_Writing_Contest#Septe… for today. If you are not a contestant, you can still sign up today without incurring article debt -- after then, every day you wait is an additional article you have to write later. The prizes so far: - 300$ in cash for the 3 winners - A full distribution of SuSE Linux 9.3 on DVD - 3 basic web site designs - A free MediaWiki site hosted by myoo.de - An Opera 8 registration code - Lots of GMail invites :-) Please continue to spread the word about the contest to your local language editions. Let's hope that it becomes a truly international event. Best, Erik

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