Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Sincerely Anshuman Fotedar
PS:
1. During the photowalk, some of the participants who were taking pictures of Bombay House were interrupted by private security personnel and asked to handover their cameras so that the pictures could be removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who were among them, peacefully put forth the fact that they were not not breaking any laws by photographing the structure from the outside since it was not a legally protected one. They were standing on the road, and not trespassing. To resolve the matter, Aditya, Pranav and Krutikaa Jawanjal accompanied the security personnel to the police station where they explained that they were within their rights to do what they did, and that citizens of the country need not take prior permission to take exterior photographs of private property that was not accorded legal protection. The PSI on duty made a noting in his station diary and informed us that Bombay House has security fears, which is why one should speak to their bosses before taking pictures, but agreed with them per se that there is no law that prohibits people from taking pictures there.
2. The group that went to Bombay House (and subsequently to Yazdani Bakery, St. Thomas Cathedral) and other places was delayed owing to the incident at Bombay House and discovered serendipitously that entry to INS Vikrant was open. Covering Vikrant took a while, adding to the delay. Consequently they (this includes me) never reached HBCSE but uploaded from home instead. Although we did get several good contributions from the participants in this group as well, I do recognise that it may have been nice if we could have joined in with the participants who uploaded together at HBCSE. I apologise.
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Anshuman Fotedar < anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Fantastic !!!
I was not there in this photography event. However, getting inspiration from these pictures, I have uploaded some of the pictures I have taken during WCI. These include some night pictures from Marine Drive and the beautiful glass pane in the ocnvocation hall. Hope you will like them. I will add a few more later on. You can find it here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Sudhanwa_j
Will love to see more images from WTM.
Best regards -Sudhanwa ps: Usually, we are supposed to ask for permission of sensitive places like temples, corporate houses etc. Even though it may be legally possible, usually, photography is not permitted/done in such places. A balance of "wasting a lot of time and energy (and equipment) with the cops and security people" and "a few pictures" is to be achieved.
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Great report! Sounds like a wonderful event with good advocacy on the question of maintaining respect for basic freedoms of citizens when governments take security concerns a bit too far.
Warmest wishes from sunny San Francisco.
Barry
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <sudhanwa.com@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Anshuman Fotedar < anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Fantastic !!!
I was not there in this photography event. However, getting inspiration from these pictures, I have uploaded some of the pictures I have taken during WCI. These include some night pictures from Marine Drive and the beautiful glass pane in the ocnvocation hall. Hope you will like them. I will add a few more later on. You can find it here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Sudhanwa_j
Will love to see more images from WTM.
Best regards -Sudhanwa ps: Usually, we are supposed to ask for permission of sensitive places like temples, corporate houses etc. Even though it may be legally possible, usually, photography is not permitted/done in such places. A balance of "wasting a lot of time and energy (and equipment) with the cops and security people" and "a few pictures" is to be achieved.
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Wondering when the next photowalk is going to be ? And where ?
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Barry Newstead bnewstead@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Great report! Sounds like a wonderful event with good advocacy on the question of maintaining respect for basic freedoms of citizens when governments take security concerns a bit too far.
Warmest wishes from sunny San Francisco.
Barry
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar < sudhanwa.com@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Anshuman Fotedar < anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Fantastic !!!
I was not there in this photography event. However, getting inspiration from these pictures, I have uploaded some of the pictures I have taken during WCI. These include some night pictures from Marine Drive and the beautiful glass pane in the ocnvocation hall. Hope you will like them. I will add a few more later on. You can find it here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Sudhanwa_j
Will love to see more images from WTM.
Best regards -Sudhanwa ps: Usually, we are supposed to ask for permission of sensitive places like temples, corporate houses etc. Even though it may be legally possible, usually, photography is not permitted/done in such places. A balance of "wasting a lot of time and energy (and equipment) with the cops and security people" and "a few pictures" is to be achieved.
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Sounds like a fun time was had by all.
A question: Is there anyway of finding out in advance what buildings are considered to have have "Security fears"?
Warm regards
Harriet Still in NYC.
Harriet Vidyasagar
www.outofindia.net
www.womenofindia.net
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USA: 1-301-649-2240
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Anshuman Fotedar < anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Sincerely Anshuman Fotedar
PS:
During the photowalk, some of the participants who were taking pictures of Bombay House were interrupted by private security personnel and asked to handover their cameras so that the pictures could be removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who were among them, peacefully put forth the fact that they were not not breaking any laws by photographing the structure from the outside since it was not a legally protected one. They were standing on the road, and not trespassing. To resolve the matter, Aditya, Pranav and Krutikaa Jawanjal accompanied the security personnel to the police station where they explained that they were within their rights to do what they did, and that citizens of the country need not take prior permission to take exterior photographs of private property that was not accorded legal protection. The PSI on duty made a noting in his station diary and informed us that Bombay House has security fears, which is why one should speak to their bosses before taking pictures, but agreed with them per se that there is no law that prohibits people from taking pictures there.
The group that went to Bombay House (and subsequently to Yazdani Bakery, St. Thomas Cathedral) and other places was delayed owing to the incident at Bombay House and discovered serendipitously that entry to INS Vikrant was open. Covering Vikrant took a while, adding to the delay. Consequently they (this includes me) never reached HBCSE but uploaded from home instead. Although we did get several good contributions from the participants in this group as well, I do recognise that it may have been nice if we could have joined in with the participants who uploaded together at HBCSE. I apologise.
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How wonderful, I do wish I was there. You guys have done a great job. My personal congrats to each of the participants.
Do we have a master list for articles about Mumbai? Does one need to be made?
Well begun is half done. Please remember that with all this raw material (images), you now have to make cakes & pastries (i.e. better-illustrated articles & newly-made stubs).
So the process of cooking must now start.
Just to remind every-one once again, :)
We need to :
* categorise the images. * add the images to articles, where possible. * create stubs where necessary and add images to them.
Congratulations once again Mumbai community, but don't halt just yet, complete the cycle & see Mumbai represented much better in Wikipedia.
Bumping this to the Wikiproject India mailing list also.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anshuman Fotedar anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, "Mailing list for Wikimedians / Wikipedians in & from Mumbai , India." < wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org>
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Sincerely Anshuman Fotedar
PS:
1. During the photowalk, some of the participants who were taking pictures of Bombay House were interrupted by private security personnel and asked to handover their cameras so that the pictures could be removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who were among them, peacefully put forth the fact that they were not not breaking any laws by photographing the structure from the outside since it was not a legally protected one. They were standing on the road, and not trespassing. To resolve the matter, Aditya, Pranav and Krutikaa Jawanjal accompanied the security personnel to the police station where they explained that they were within their rights to do what they did, and that citizens of the country need not take prior permission to take exterior photographs of private property that was not accorded legal protection. The PSI on duty made a noting in his station diary and informed us that Bombay House has security fears, which is why one should speak to their bosses before taking pictures, but agreed with them per se that there is no law that prohibits people from taking pictures there.
2. The group that went to Bombay House (and subsequently to Yazdani Bakery, St. Thomas Cathedral) and other places was delayed owing to the incident at Bombay House and discovered serendipitously that entry to INS Vikrant was open. Covering Vikrant took a while, adding to the delay. Consequently they (this includes me) never reached HBCSE but uploaded from home instead. Although we did get several good contributions from the participants in this group as well, I do recognise that it may have been nice if we could have joined in with the participants who uploaded together at HBCSE. I apologise.
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To address Harriet's query, any building where sufficiently rich people live or work may be considered a place where officious security will try and discourage photography. Legality of interference is only a time-waster, as the security personnel will be very unlikely to be aware of applicable law, and in any case are only following orders.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.comwrote:
How wonderful, I do wish I was there. You guys have done a great job. My personal congrats to each of the participants.
Do we have a master list for articles about Mumbai? Does one need to be made?
Well begun is half done. Please remember that with all this raw material (images), you now have to make cakes & pastries (i.e. better-illustrated articles & newly-made stubs).
So the process of cooking must now start.
Just to remind every-one once again, :)
We need to :
- categorise the images.
- add the images to articles, where possible.
- create stubs where necessary and add images to them.
Congratulations once again Mumbai community, but don't halt just yet, complete the cycle & see Mumbai represented much better in Wikipedia.
Bumping this to the Wikiproject India mailing list also.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Sincerely Anshuman Fotedar
PS:
During the photowalk, some of the participants who were taking pictures of Bombay House were interrupted by private security personnel and asked to handover their cameras so that the pictures could be removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who were among them, peacefully put forth the fact that they were not not breaking any laws by photographing the structure from the outside since it was not a legally protected one. They were standing on the road, and not trespassing. To resolve the matter, Aditya, Pranav and Krutikaa Jawanjal accompanied the security personnel to the police station where they explained that they were within their rights to do what they did, and that citizens of the country need not take prior permission to take exterior photographs of private property that was not accorded legal protection. The PSI on duty made a noting in his station diary and informed us that Bombay House has security fears, which is why one should speak to their bosses before taking pictures, but agreed with them per se that there is no law that prohibits people from taking pictures there.
The group that went to Bombay House (and subsequently to Yazdani Bakery, St. Thomas Cathedral) and other places was delayed owing to the incident at Bombay House and discovered serendipitously that entry to INS Vikrant was open. Covering Vikrant took a while, adding to the delay. Consequently they (this includes me) never reached HBCSE but uploaded from home instead. Although we did get several good contributions from the participants in this group as well, I do recognise that it may have been nice if we could have joined in with the participants who uploaded together at HBCSE. I apologise.
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Harriet,
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 05:32, Outofindia outofindia@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a fun time was had by all.
A question: Is there anyway of finding out in advance what buildings are considered to have have "Security fears"?
Yes- if there is a yellow board that declares the building as a "Prohibited Area", you are not allowed to photograph such buildings. We saw quite a few of these buildings- such as the RBI building. These boards are required to be registered with the police/government, so it isn't like anyone can put them up.
Everything else is fair game- as long as you are not trespassing on their property (which we weren't) or harassing them (we were super nice and polite with the Bombay House folks as well as the police- so this wasn't a problem either).
Warm regards
Harriet Still in NYC.
Harriet Vidyasagar
www.outofindia.net
www.womenofindia.net
INDIA: 91-99011 66276
USA: 1-301-649-2240
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Anshuman Fotedar < anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Sincerely Anshuman Fotedar
PS:
During the photowalk, some of the participants who were taking pictures of Bombay House were interrupted by private security personnel and asked to handover their cameras so that the pictures could be removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who were among them, peacefully put forth the fact that they were not not breaking any laws by photographing the structure from the outside since it was not a legally protected one. They were standing on the road, and not trespassing. To resolve the matter, Aditya, Pranav and Krutikaa Jawanjal accompanied the security personnel to the police station where they explained that they were within their rights to do what they did, and that citizens of the country need not take prior permission to take exterior photographs of private property that was not accorded legal protection. The PSI on duty made a noting in his station diary and informed us that Bombay House has security fears, which is why one should speak to their bosses before taking pictures, but agreed with them per se that there is no law that prohibits people from taking pictures there.
The group that went to Bombay House (and subsequently to Yazdani Bakery, St. Thomas Cathedral) and other places was delayed owing to the incident at Bombay House and discovered serendipitously that entry to INS Vikrant was open. Covering Vikrant took a while, adding to the delay. Consequently they (this includes me) never reached HBCSE but uploaded from home instead. Although we did get several good contributions from the participants in this group as well, I do recognise that it may have been nice if we could have joined in with the participants who uploaded together at HBCSE. I apologise.
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We seem to be called in to the cop station a bit too often - visit #2 for Wikipedia (1st was for WCI 11), this time it got better, taken in a Police Van to MRA Marg. The worst part, they dont drop you back, you need to make your own way :(
The guards at Bombay House were pretty clear, we have orders not to allow photography on Homy Mody Street in front of the building for security reasons. Its odd that such orders are given in the first place, as public roads are not under their purview and we were certainly not trespassing their property. Aditya offered to delete the pics if they could show that its illegal, obviously they could not. Just because they are scared of terror threats, whoever gave the order seems to think they have the right to deny the public of their rights and curtail freedom. Talk about misuse of power.
From: apsengupta@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:52:17 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II
Harriet,
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 05:32, Outofindia outofindia@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a fun time was had by all.
A question: Is there anyway of finding out in advance what buildings are considered to have have "Security fears"?
Yes- if there is a yellow board that declares the building as a "Prohibited Area", you are not allowed to photograph such buildings. We saw quite a few of these buildings- such as the RBI building. These boards are required to be registered with the police/government, so it isn't like anyone can put them up.
Everything else is fair game- as long as you are not trespassing on their property (which we weren't) or harassing them (we were super nice and polite with the Bombay House folks as well as the police- so this wasn't a problem either).
Warm regards
Harriet Still in NYC.
Harriet Vidyasagar
www.outofindia.net
www.womenofindia.net
INDIA: 91-99011 66276
USA: 1-301-649-2240
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Anshuman Fotedar anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far. Sincerely
Anshuman Fotedar
PS:
1. During the photowalk, some of the participants who were taking pictures of Bombay House were interrupted by private security personnel and asked to handover their cameras so that the pictures could be removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who were among them, peacefully put forth the fact that they were not not breaking any laws by photographing the structure from the outside since it was not a legally protected one. They were standing on the road, and not trespassing. To resolve the matter, Aditya, Pranav and Krutikaa Jawanjal accompanied the security personnel to the police station where they explained that they were within their rights to do what they did, and that citizens of the country need not take prior permission to take exterior photographs of private property that was not accorded legal protection. The PSI on duty made a noting in his station diary and informed us that Bombay House has security fears, which is why one should speak to their bosses before taking pictures, but agreed with them per se that there is no law that prohibits people from taking pictures there.
2.The group that went to Bombay House (and subsequently to Yazdani Bakery, St. Thomas Cathedral) and other places was delayed owing to the incident at Bombay House and discovered serendipitously that entry to INS Vikrant was open. Covering Vikrant took a while, adding to the delay. Consequently they (this includes me) never reached HBCSE but uploaded from home instead. Although we did get several good contributions from the participants in this group as well, I do recognise that it may have been nice if we could have joined in with the participants who uploaded together at HBCSE. I apologise.
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Hii All,
Sorry for not been able to write in detail about the event yesterday.
On 28th Morning, the participants arrived exactly at 8am. Few, who could not arrive on time made it a point to inform one of us, about it. We spoke to them about their preference of places to click which went on Good. There after, around 8.45am people dispersed on respective routes.
I along with three others covered the extreme north of churchgate( Jogeshwari, Borivali and Dahisar ). While Karthik covered the Chatrapati Shivaji Vastu Sangrahalay interiors besides other places and headed to HBCSE for keeping the lab ready for participants with the tool installed. Not many could make it to HBCSE though, owing to the distance. In all there were 10 of us who reached there by 2.30pm.
The major technical challenge started here while uploading the images. The system would not allow upload from many people simultaneously and only one person's images were uploaded at a time ! On informing this to Dr. Nagarjuna, he mentioned about asking help from the IRC center but unfortunately, none of the wikipedians were online at that time. We tried calling few , but for some reason they cwere not available then. After this, we waited for sometime for the one person's upload to get over and till then the others filled the data for the images. Two people successfully uploaded images using 'Commonist' tool for mass upload. The participants were comfortable with the process absolutely but the problem was when they pressed 'UPLOAD'. It said, There is an 'unknown error'. In order to overcome this, we tried to upload using the basic 5 steps of upload in commons, but it showed the message, 'The files are empty' !!! no idea How and Why this happened..!
After trying this, Nagarjuna Sir sat with us for trying Python. And the rest as he mentioned earlier in this thread: "while running the script, it cribbed about 'missing module poster'. I have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. after that the script ran successfully". Took lot of time in getting the script working though.
However we could not run Python on other PCs since by the time it was post 8pm. We could only upload images of 4 people successfully. However this is something to discuss as why the tools did not work as they should have been. Partcipants left the campus by 7.30pm after copying the images on desktop.
Big Thanks to Nargarjun Sir for being there with us for the entire time till 9pm in HBCSE and his efforts in upload procedure !!
Besides, there are many people who helped in particular stages of the event. Starting Noopur , Pranav, Moksh, Netra, Vickram uncle, Dr.Nagarjuna, Kundan Sir, Aditya and Krutika for attending the event. Also would like to make mention of Ajit Sahu who created the logo for the event with just little briefing. Thanks to ALL !
Warm Regards, Nikita Belavate.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM, wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com wrote:
We seem to be called in to the cop station a bit too often - visit #2 for Wikipedia (1st was for WCI 11), this time it got better, taken in a Police Van to MRA Marg. The worst part, they dont drop you back, you need to make your own way :(
The guards at Bombay House were pretty clear, we have orders not to allow photography on Homy Mody Street in front of the building for security reasons. Its odd that such orders are given in the first place, as public roads are not under their purview and we were certainly not trespassing their property. Aditya offered to delete the pics if they could show that its illegal, obviously they could not. Just because they are scared of terror threats, whoever gave the order seems to think they have the right to deny the public of their rights and curtail freedom. Talk about misuse of power.
From: apsengupta@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:52:17 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II
Harriet,
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 05:32, Outofindia outofindia@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a fun time was had by all.
A question: Is there anyway of finding out in advance what buildings are considered to have have "Security fears"?
Yes- if there is a yellow board that declares the building as a "Prohibited Area", you are not allowed to photograph such buildings. We saw quite a few of these buildings- such as the RBI building. These boards are required to be registered with the police/government, so it isn't like anyone can put them up.
Everything else is fair game- as long as you are not trespassing on their property (which we weren't) or harassing them (we were super nice and polite with the Bombay House folks as well as the police- so this wasn't a problem either).
Warm regards
Harriet Still in NYC.
Harriet Vidyasagar
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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Anshuman Fotedar < anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Sincerely Anshuman Fotedar
PS:
During the photowalk, some of the participants who were taking pictures of Bombay House were interrupted by private security personnel and asked to handover their cameras so that the pictures could be removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who were among them, peacefully put forth the fact that they were not not breaking any laws by photographing the structure from the outside since it was not a legally protected one. They were standing on the road, and not trespassing. To resolve the matter, Aditya, Pranav and Krutikaa Jawanjal accompanied the security personnel to the police station where they explained that they were within their rights to do what they did, and that citizens of the country need not take prior permission to take exterior photographs of private property that was not accorded legal protection. The PSI on duty made a noting in his station diary and informed us that Bombay House has security fears, which is why one should speak to their bosses before taking pictures, but agreed with them per se that there is no law that prohibits people from taking pictures there.
The group that went to Bombay House (and subsequently to Yazdani Bakery, St. Thomas Cathedral) and other places was delayed owing to the incident at Bombay House and discovered serendipitously that entry to INS Vikrant was open. Covering Vikrant took a while, adding to the delay. Consequently they (this includes me) never reached HBCSE but uploaded from home instead. Although we did get several good contributions from the participants in this group as well, I do recognise that it may have been nice if we could have joined in with the participants who uploaded together at HBCSE. I apologise.
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hi,
It seems like an instructive learning experience at so many levels - technical, photographical, legal etc. Thank you for sharing this here.
I hope all of you learnt while having fun! Please do more events like this!
Pradeep Handheld
On 30/01/2012, nikita belavate niki8891@gmail.com wrote:
Hii All,
Sorry for not been able to write in detail about the event yesterday.
On 28th Morning, the participants arrived exactly at 8am. Few, who could not arrive on time made it a point to inform one of us, about it. We spoke to them about their preference of places to click which went on Good. There after, around 8.45am people dispersed on respective routes.
I along with three others covered the extreme north of churchgate( Jogeshwari, Borivali and Dahisar ). While Karthik covered the Chatrapati Shivaji Vastu Sangrahalay interiors besides other places and headed to HBCSE for keeping the lab ready for participants with the tool installed. Not many could make it to HBCSE though, owing to the distance. In all there were 10 of us who reached there by 2.30pm.
The major technical challenge started here while uploading the images. The system would not allow upload from many people simultaneously and only one person's images were uploaded at a time ! On informing this to Dr. Nagarjuna, he mentioned about asking help from the IRC center but unfortunately, none of the wikipedians were online at that time. We tried calling few , but for some reason they cwere not available then. After this, we waited for sometime for the one person's upload to get over and till then the others filled the data for the images. Two people successfully uploaded images using 'Commonist' tool for mass upload. The participants were comfortable with the process absolutely but the problem was when they pressed 'UPLOAD'. It said, There is an 'unknown error'. In order to overcome this, we tried to upload using the basic 5 steps of upload in commons, but it showed the message, 'The files are empty' !!! no idea How and Why this happened..!
After trying this, Nagarjuna Sir sat with us for trying Python. And the rest as he mentioned earlier in this thread: "while running the script, it cribbed about 'missing module poster'. I have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was python-pyexiv2. apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. after that the script ran successfully". Took lot of time in getting the script working though.
However we could not run Python on other PCs since by the time it was post 8pm. We could only upload images of 4 people successfully. However this is something to discuss as why the tools did not work as they should have been. Partcipants left the campus by 7.30pm after copying the images on desktop.
Big Thanks to Nargarjun Sir for being there with us for the entire time till 9pm in HBCSE and his efforts in upload procedure !!
Besides, there are many people who helped in particular stages of the event. Starting Noopur , Pranav, Moksh, Netra, Vickram uncle, Dr.Nagarjuna, Kundan Sir, Aditya and Krutika for attending the event. Also would like to make mention of Ajit Sahu who created the logo for the event with just little briefing. Thanks to ALL !
Warm Regards, Nikita Belavate.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM, wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com wrote:
We seem to be called in to the cop station a bit too often - visit #2 for Wikipedia (1st was for WCI 11), this time it got better, taken in a Police Van to MRA Marg. The worst part, they dont drop you back, you need to make your own way :(
The guards at Bombay House were pretty clear, we have orders not to allow photography on Homy Mody Street in front of the building for security reasons. Its odd that such orders are given in the first place, as public roads are not under their purview and we were certainly not trespassing their property. Aditya offered to delete the pics if they could show that its illegal, obviously they could not. Just because they are scared of terror threats, whoever gave the order seems to think they have the right to deny the public of their rights and curtail freedom. Talk about misuse of power.
From: apsengupta@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:52:17 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II
Harriet,
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 05:32, Outofindia outofindia@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a fun time was had by all.
A question: Is there anyway of finding out in advance what buildings are considered to have have "Security fears"?
Yes- if there is a yellow board that declares the building as a "Prohibited Area", you are not allowed to photograph such buildings. We saw quite a few of these buildings- such as the RBI building. These boards are required to be registered with the police/government, so it isn't like anyone can put them up.
Everything else is fair game- as long as you are not trespassing on their property (which we weren't) or harassing them (we were super nice and polite with the Bombay House folks as well as the police- so this wasn't a problem either).
Warm regards
Harriet Still in NYC.
Harriet Vidyasagar
www.outofindia.net
www.womenofindia.net
INDIA: 91-99011 66276
USA: 1-301-649-2240
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Anshuman Fotedar < anshuman.fotedar@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings! This is a short note on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II. Forty people turned up near the Oval Maidan at Churchgate at 8 am yesterday. The landmarks that were photographed included the Babulnath Temple, Nehru Science Centre, Opera House, St Thomas Cathedral, INS Vikrant and Yazdani Bakery. After the photos had been clicked many of the participants proceeded to Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR where they were shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script.
Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen.
Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring. Thanks to Shrinivasan T for mediawiki-uploader :) And apologies if I missed anyone out.
Do visit our maintenance category WTMhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:WTM, specially created for the event. 313 pictures have been uploaded so far.
Sincerely Anshuman Fotedar
PS:
During the photowalk, some of the participants who were taking pictures of Bombay House were interrupted by private security personnel and asked to handover their cameras so that the pictures could be removed. Pranav and Aditya Sengupta, who were among them, peacefully put forth the fact that they were not not breaking any laws by photographing the structure from the outside since it was not a legally protected one. They were standing on the road, and not trespassing. To resolve the matter, Aditya, Pranav and Krutikaa Jawanjal accompanied the security personnel to the police station where they explained that they were within their rights to do what they did, and that citizens of the country need not take prior permission to take exterior photographs of private property that was not accorded legal protection. The PSI on duty made a noting in his station diary and informed us that Bombay House has security fears, which is why one should speak to their bosses before taking pictures, but agreed with them per se that there is no law that prohibits people from taking pictures there.
The group that went to Bombay House (and subsequently to Yazdani Bakery, St. Thomas Cathedral) and other places was delayed owing to the incident at Bombay House and discovered serendipitously that entry to INS Vikrant was open. Covering Vikrant took a while, adding to the delay. Consequently they (this includes me) never reached HBCSE but uploaded from home instead. Although we did get several good contributions from the participants in this group as well, I do recognise that it may have been nice if we could have joined in with the participants who uploaded together at HBCSE. I apologise.
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