Hi all,
I've been working on the FAC for Arlington, Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Arlington,_Washington/archive1 for a few days now, and hit a bit of a roadblock in its source review.
Specifically, the "high quality" sources clause from the FA criteria. I'm struggling to justify the use of HistoryLink as a "high quality" source, as well as early 20th century books that are used to cite specific details of the city's history (the name and occupation of its first mayor, the founder of Haller City, etc.).
This is my first real attempt at a FAC, so I'm a bit nervous about how to proceed.
Hello,
HistoryLink is uniquely influential in Washington history. It is also a user generated encyclopedia which tries to use quality control and citations.
Here are some options -
1. Write the author who wrote that Historylink article. Verify the quality of the information through her. https://historyweaver.wordpress.com/ 2. Develop the Wikipedia article on Historylink. If you can confirm some quality control, then put that into its Wikipedia article. Checking your source seems appropriate.
About your book from 1906 - it seems like the reviewers are taking for granted that this is an outdated book of poor quality. To what extent is that true? That book probably does not merit its own wiki article but maybe you could make a note on the talk page about its quality. Is there anything thorough about it? To what extent is the ideal source for the purpose for which you are using it?
I think the questions you are getting are fair. They are not necessarily blocks to progress, and seem like a sincere wish to check quality.
Thoughts?
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:16 AM, SounderBruce sounderbruce@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've been working on the FAC for Arlington, Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_ article_candidates/Arlington,_Washington/archive1 for a few days now, and hit a bit of a roadblock in its source review.
Specifically, the "high quality" sources clause from the FA criteria. I'm struggling to justify the use of HistoryLink as a "high quality" source, as well as early 20th century books that are used to cite specific details of the city's history (the name and occupation of its first mayor, the founder of Haller City, etc.).
This is my first real attempt at a FAC, so I'm a bit nervous about how to proceed.
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Given HistoryLink's association with Paul Dorpat, the late Walt Crowley, Peter Bagge, and others, I would think it is clearly "high quality". And things like the name of the first mayor ought to be entirely uncontroversial; it's almost unimaginable that a reasonably contemporaneous book would get it wrong.
JM
On 5/11/2017 8:16 AM, SounderBruce wrote:
Hi all,
I've been working on the FAC for Arlington, Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Arlington,_Washington/archive1 for a few days now, and hit a bit of a roadblock in its source review.
Specifically, the "high quality" sources clause from the FA criteria. I'm struggling to justify the use of HistoryLink as a "high quality" source, as well as early 20th century books that are used to cite specific details of the city's history (the name and occupation of its first mayor, the founder of Haller City, etc.).
This is my first real attempt at a FAC, so I'm a bit nervous about how to proceed.
Thanks for the responses. I think I'll stand my ground a bit, and make a trip down to the local library to see if there even are suitable "modern" references covering that era and could be used instead.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Joe Mabel jmabel@speakeasy.net wrote:
Given HistoryLink's association with Paul Dorpat, the late Walt Crowley, Peter Bagge, and others, I would think it is clearly "high quality". And things like the name of the first mayor ought to be entirely uncontroversial; it's almost unimaginable that a reasonably contemporaneous book would get it wrong.
JM
On 5/11/2017 8:16 AM, SounderBruce wrote:
Hi all,
I've been working on the FAC for Arlington, Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_ candidates/Arlington,_Washington/archive1 for a few days now, and hit a bit of a roadblock in its source review.
Specifically, the "high quality" sources clause from the FA criteria. I'm struggling to justify the use of HistoryLink as a "high quality" source, as well as early 20th century books that are used to cite specific details of the city's history (the name and occupation of its first mayor, the founder of Haller City, etc.).
This is my first real attempt at a FAC, so I'm a bit nervous about how to proceed.
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The funny thing is that of course those modern references will probably have used exactly the ones you cited as their sources.
JM
On 5/11/2017 11:22 AM, SounderBruce wrote:
Thanks for the responses. I think I'll stand my ground a bit, and make a trip down to the local library to see if there even are suitable "modern" references covering that era and could be used instead.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Joe Mabel jmabel@speakeasy.net wrote:
Given HistoryLink's association with Paul Dorpat, the late Walt Crowley, Peter Bagge, and others, I would think it is clearly "high quality". And things like the name of the first mayor ought to be entirely uncontroversial; it's almost unimaginable that a reasonably contemporaneous book would get it wrong.
JM
On 5/11/2017 8:16 AM, SounderBruce wrote:
Hi all,
I've been working on the FAC for Arlington, Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_ candidates/Arlington,_Washington/archive1 for a few days now, and hit a bit of a roadblock in its source review.
Specifically, the "high quality" sources clause from the FA criteria. I'm struggling to justify the use of HistoryLink as a "high quality" source, as well as early 20th century books that are used to cite specific details of the city's history (the name and occupation of its first mayor, the founder of Haller City, etc.).
This is my first real attempt at a FAC, so I'm a bit nervous about how to proceed.
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