The racist concept is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Territorial_Imperative
I don't think it's actually related to "Cascadia", but the criticism of ecotopianism as a white liberal paradise is maybe a valid one.
Thanks, Pharos
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 1:45 PM, James Hare james.hare@wikidc.org wrote:
Censored, or not included as a result of systemic bias, of Wikipedia’s predominantly white editors not thinking to include it or look up sources about it? Or omitted because the general historical narrative has erased the presence of racism, meaning it would not be found in most sources that would be used anyway?
But if we have documentation that it was a racist phenomenon (and I can see why it would be), we should certainly make sure to include it in the article. And what better time than when people are interested in it?
— James Hare Secretary, Wikimedia DC https://wikimediadc.org @wikimediadc
On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Dennis Bratland wrote:
That "Cascadia (independence movement)" Wikipedia article really goes out of its way to censor any mention of the white supremacist connection to
the
Cascadia movement. E.g.
white-racists-wants-a-nw-secession-a-vile-dream-with-deep-historic-roots/
Seems like anybody today who says "I don't need the Federal Government, they never did anything for me" is probably white, middle class and comfortably privileged. Having no Justice Department to force reform on
the
Seattle Police Department wouldn't make any difference to the white
people
of the city; the problems with the police department weren't affecting
them
to begin with. I'd have a different attitude if the people of Seattle had been clamoring to clean up police abuse and it was the Feds holding them back. But Seattle was doing nothing and Justice had to sue to drag a reluctant Seattle to do anything about it. Or take away the Federal Government and the Washington is going to rush in and shut down the
casinos
and everything else on the reservations. Tribal sovereignty, such as it
is,
comes from Washington DC, not Olympia.
I guess it's like when I hear a phrase like "America First" I can't help but think of Charles Lindbergh's fascist enablers. Cascadia triggers the same reaction from me. It sounds nice at first, but under the surface it looks ugly., and it's got some old connotations that are hard to forget. It's like a nice way of saying "states rights". It makes me think of
people
who want to return Oregon to a whites-only state, or Seattle to the whites-only city it was originally founded as.
Just saying.
Dennis
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Lane Rasberry <lane@bluerasberry.com
(mailto:lane@bluerasberry.com)>
wrote:
(not cc'ing analytics)
Thanks Bruce. I talk regularly with http://www.cascadianow.org/ and have been asking about their capacity to be a nonprofit outreach partner for the wiki chapter.
I will raise this issue with them, because perhaps they can help
develop
the article.
yours,
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine@gmail.com (mailto:
wiki.pine@gmail.com)> wrote:
Hi WMF Analytics,
It would be interesting to know where all this traffic is
originating. Do
we have a way of tracking back the origin of Wikipedia pageviews to particular sites or pages?
It would also be interesting to get a geographic picture of where
this
traffic is originating.
Pine
Pine
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:45 PM, SounderBruce <
sounderbruce@gmail.com (mailto:sounderbruce@gmail.com)>
wrote:
Since Election Day, they've increased from 900/day to over 273,000 <https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en. wikipedia.org (http://wikipedia.org)&platform=all-access&agent=
user&range=
latest-10&pages=Cascadia_(independence_movement)> .
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