This might be a possibility
----- Original Message ---- From: Padraic user.padraic@gmail.com To: wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:23:32 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US
Hi there, I remember at one point the idea being tossed around that Wikimedia Canada could host materials on wikimedia.ca that are PD in Canada, but not the US.
At [[Commons:Deletion requests/Library and Archives Canada non-PD images]], I think we've discovered such a class of images: photos taken after 1949, whose copyright is either corporate or Crown. In Canada, their copyright expires 50 years after publication, but in the US, since they were not PD in 1996 when the URAA was passed, they won't enter the PD untill 95 years fter publication. I think it'd be nice to host them somewhere for that 45-year gap, since Canadian users would be able to use them, and we would know exactly when they'd be eligible for Commons.
Right now, there are only 4 such images, but clearly there is a huge potential for more materials (especially when you consider things like the NFB). Assuming the 4 images get deleted from Commons, I'm going to throw them up on my Flickr page, with the appropriate copyright notices. However, I just thought I'd say that I'd be interested in working such a Wikimedia-CA project -- and more importantly, if there is enough material to warrant starting such a wiki, in a non-WMF-sanctioned, third-party way, before all the official chapter stuff gets sorted out, I'd be interested in working on that. I'd even be willing to get a domain name (cancommons.ca?) and host it all, if other people were willing to contribute.
Thoughts? Padraic
Um, what does that mean? A possibility of what? By whom?
2008/5/23 Geoffrey Plourde geo.plrd@yahoo.com:
This might be a possibility
----- Original Message ---- From: Padraic user.padraic@gmail.com To: wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:23:32 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US
Hi there, I remember at one point the idea being tossed around that Wikimedia Canada could host materials on wikimedia.ca that are PD in Canada, but not the US.
At [[Commons:Deletion requests/Library and Archives Canada non-PD images]], I think we've discovered such a class of images: photos taken after 1949, whose copyright is either corporate or Crown. In Canada, their copyright expires 50 years after publication, but in the US, since they were not PD in 1996 when the URAA was passed, they won't enter the PD untill 95 years fter publication. I think it'd be nice to host them somewhere for that 45-year gap, since Canadian users would be able to use them, and we would know exactly when they'd be eligible for Commons.
Right now, there are only 4 such images, but clearly there is a huge potential for more materials (especially when you consider things like the NFB). Assuming the 4 images get deleted from Commons, I'm going to throw them up on my Flickr page, with the appropriate copyright notices. However, I just thought I'd say that I'd be interested in working such a Wikimedia-CA project -- and more importantly, if there is enough material to warrant starting such a wiki, in a non-WMF-sanctioned, third-party way, before all the official chapter stuff gets sorted out, I'd be interested in working on that. I'd even be willing to get a domain name (cancommons.ca?) and host it all, if other people were willing to contribute.
Thoughts? Padraic
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I wonder who owns the wikimedia.ca domain...
This matter needs to be investigated in details because copyright law is very messy. But right now we are dedicating our time to getting WMC started first.
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:27:50 -0400 From: padraic.j.ryan@gmail.com To: wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US
Um, what does that mean? A possibility of what? By whom?
2008/5/23 Geoffrey Plourde geo.plrd@yahoo.com:
This might be a possibility
----- Original Message ---- From: Padraic user.padraic@gmail.com
To: wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:23:32 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US
Hi there, I remember at one point the idea being tossed around that Wikimedia Canada could host materials on wikimedia.ca that are PD in Canada, but not the US.
At [[Commons:Deletion requests/Library and Archives Canada non-PD images]], I think we've discovered such a class of images: photos taken after 1949, whose copyright is either corporate or Crown. In Canada, their copyright expires 50 years after publication, but in the US, since they were not PD in 1996 when the URAA was passed, they won't enter the PD untill 95 years fter publication. I think it'd be nice to host them somewhere for that 45-year gap, since Canadian users would be able to use them, and we would know exactly when they'd be eligible for Commons.
Right now, there are only 4 such images, but clearly there is a huge potential for more materials (especially when you consider things like the NFB). Assuming the 4 images get deleted from Commons, I'm going to throw them up on my Flickr page, with the appropriate copyright notices. However, I just thought I'd say that I'd be interested in working such a Wikimedia-CA project -- and more importantly, if there is enough material to warrant starting such a wiki, in a non-WMF-sanctioned, third-party way, before all the official chapter stuff gets sorted out, I'd be interested in working on that. I'd even be willing to get a domain name (cancommons.ca?) and host it all, if other people were willing to contribute.
Thoughts? Padraic
----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Leung To: Wikimedia Canada planning list Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US
I wonder who owns the wikimedia.ca domain...
I think that'd be Ray Saintonge, [[user:Eclecticology]] on en: ???
The domain is registered to Ray Saintonge on April 7, 2005.
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Carl Austin Bennett carlb613@hotmail.com wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Leung To: Wikimedia Canada planning list Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US I wonder who owns the wikimedia.ca domain...
I think that'd be Ray Saintonge, [[user:Eclecticology]] on en: ??? _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Padraic Ryan padraic.j.ryan@gmail.com wrote:
Um, what does that mean? A possibility of what? By whom?
I think it's a possibility we should explore, and I think that is what the poster meant.
It'll take some effort to figure out how to do this, if it is feasible, simply because as it stands now the WMF actually hosts all of the physical servers. When the WM Canada chapter comes into being, we might be able to assist in some of this, but we'd have to co-ordinate it with the WMF.
Hope this helps, Gerald.
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