I think there may be some confusion regarding the activities of the steering committee versus those of the community as a whole. The steering committee came together to achieve one purpose: starting Wikimedia Canada. The first step in that process is to fulfill the legal requirements of the Canadian Government. James and I did our best to collect a group of people to meet the minimum requirements to get that ball rolling. We have now made a major step, the paperwork is filed with the Canadian government. When we realized we had a document ready for signatures, we posted that update on the Meta site.
At this stage nothing has been approved by the Canadian Government. Approval make take several months and in fact may take several attempts on getting the correct language prepared for approval. During this phase public consultation is not necessary as this is a legal formality as much of the work had already be done. As we have focused our efforts on completing this step, we have not invested any time in organizing anything else. Please be aware that this step has been attempted before and has failed. The previous group invested a great deal of time in soliciting community opinion and drafting a rough set of bylaws which has proven invaluable this time around. Fortunately, we were able to salvage much of the work done by the first steering committee and avoided some of the pitfalls that were encountered.
Having said that, if anyone on this mailing list has any ideas about goals for this group, please feel free to write them down and share them with the rest of us. We will require people to step up and make a time commitment should they wish to take on a leadership role. There are plenty of ideas floating around; what we lack are volunteers to coordinate and organize them. Please do not let the activities of the steering committee dissuade anyone on this list from presenting ideas and discussing them amongst yourselves. Most importantly, if anyone is interested in helping us organize the volunteers, we could really use your help. Everyone here is a volunteer and we all have limits as to how much time we can give to the project.
Respectfully,
Alan Walker
I suggest transparency and communications before making commitments on behalf of members, such as creating the rules and regulations by which the members would be governed. Writing off the community's involvement *now* is no better than writing it off *before* you submitted without review.
Having previously created the minimal set of rules required and offering to pay for all necessary legal and incorporation fees, I'm both well aware of how disingenuous your comments are and utterly unwilling to be condescended to. Get off that high horse, it's dead.
Amgine
I am one of the people who has done a substantial amount of work on Wikimedia Canada for the last couple years, but I am not one of the people on the incorporation list. I do not feel insulted by being left off the list because based on the discussions that have read, I have confidence that the people who signed the incorporation documents will run a fair election for board members and hope that the people we elect as board members will be transparent.
The people on this list should know that there were emails sent to a small group after August 7 discussing the incorporation papers, but those emails were discussing the logistics of registration and did not make any changes to the bylaws and policy that are not on the website.
The one topic that was discussed in those emails that the larger group may want to discuss is what name we will use if the government rejects the name "Wiki Canada" for sounding like a government department. If you have any comments about that, feel free to start a thread about it in this email list.
As far as I know, there have been no other backroom discussions.
–Jeffery Nichols, M.A. (User:Arctic.gnome)
On 2010-11-27, at 22:25 , Amgine wrote:
I suggest transparency and communications before making commitments on behalf of members, such as creating the rules and regulations by which the members would be governed. Writing off the community's involvement *now* is no better than writing it off *before* you submitted without review.
Having previously created the minimal set of rules required and offering to pay for all necessary legal and incorporation fees, I'm both well aware of how disingenuous your comments are and utterly unwilling to be condescended to. Get off that high horse, it's dead.
Amgine
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Thank you for your information, Jeffrey. Will making those email communications within the small group after August 7 transparent to other wikipedian if they are interested in being a part of the Steering Committee?
Ktsquare
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Jeffery Nichols arctic.gnome@gmail.comwrote:
I am one of the people who has done a substantial amount of work on Wikimedia Canada for the last couple years, but I am not one of the people on the incorporation list. I do not feel insulted by being left off the list because based on the discussions that have read, I have confidence that the people who signed the incorporation documents will run a fair election for board members and hope that the people we elect as board members will be transparent.
The people on this list should know that there were emails sent to a small group after August 7 discussing the incorporation papers, but those emails were discussing the logistics of registration and did not make any changes to the bylaws and policy that are not on the website.
The one topic that was discussed in those emails that the larger group may want to discuss is what name we will use if the government rejects the name "Wiki Canada" for sounding like a government department. If you have any comments about that, feel free to start a thread about it in this email list.
As far as I know, there have been no other backroom discussions.
–Jeffery Nichols, M.A. (User:Arctic.gnome)
On 2010-11-27, at 22:25 , Amgine wrote:
I suggest transparency and communications before making commitments on behalf of members, such as creating the rules and regulations by which the members would be governed. Writing off the community's involvement *now* is no better than writing it off *before* you submitted without review.
Having previously created the minimal set of rules required and offering to pay for all necessary legal and incorporation fees, I'm both well aware of how disingenuous your comments are and utterly unwilling to be condescended to. Get off that high horse, it's dead.
Amgine
Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
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