On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:38:38 +0000 "P Lahiry" plahiry@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe it's an echo chamber because you keep mailing two lists (both of which you're a subscriber of) at a time?
I was referring to the sense of [[Echo chamber (media)]]; discussion/ideas being reinforced by only a very small number of individuals talking amongst themselves, rather than receiving input from a wider group of peers. Thus my cross-posting to the list with the larger audience of interested readers is an attempt to mitigate the echo chamber.
Amgine
FWIW, I appreciate the cross-posting, seeing as how the original mailing list was unilaterally hijacked to be hosted on a commercial for-profit advertising company apparently run by vampires who suck the privacy right out of you. By the same people who are now talking amongst themselves, too.
--Bob.
On 2011-04-04 at 18:17:38 Amgine wrote:
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:38:38 +0000 "P Lahiry"plahiry@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe it's an echo chamber because you keep mailing two lists (both of which you're a subscriber of) at a time?
I was referring to the sense of [[Echo chamber (media)]]; discussion/ideas being reinforced by only a very small number of individuals talking amongst themselves, rather than receiving input from a wider group of peers. Thus my cross-posting to the list with the larger audience of interested readers is an attempt to mitigate the echo chamber.
Amgine
Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
So let me guess - you use Bing! as your search engine then?
In all seriousness though, your statement concerning unilateral action seems a bit much. Until the announcement of the Wiki Canada move you had never emailed or contributed to this list. So why would you be crying wolf all of a sudden? If you didn't use it, why do you miss it now? I'm not trying to be facetious but from my standpoint you seem to be stirring up sh*t for the sake of stirring up sh*t.
As for google being the cause of all things wrong with the world - why don't you point us to some evidence that backs up your statements? Just saying it so doesn't make it so. And if it is what you suggest it is, use an alias. Use an anom redirector. There's several ways to get around your fears. I personally could care less about them sucking the privacy right out off me. In fact a personalized ad or two would go a long way for me. But that's just me.
This is the closest anyone has gotten to a Wikimedia Canada chapter in the last 4 years. You might not agree with some people personally but you can't discount their efforts in getting close to chapter status. So please avoid the insults.
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Bob Jonkman bjonkman@sobac.com wrote:
FWIW, I appreciate the cross-posting, seeing as how the original mailing list was unilaterally hijacked to be hosted on a commercial for-profit advertising company apparently run by vampires who suck the privacy right out of you. By the same people who are now talking amongst themselves, too.
--Bob.
On 2011-04-04 at 18:17:38 Amgine wrote:
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:38:38 +0000 "P Lahiry" plahiry@gmail.com plahiry@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe it's an echo chamber because you keep mailing two lists (both of which you're a subscriber of) at a time?
I was referring to the sense of [[Echo chamber (media)]]; discussion/ideas being reinforced by only a very small number of individuals talking amongst themselves, rather than receiving input from a wider group of peers. Thus my cross-posting to the list with the larger audience of interested readers is an attempt to mitigate the echo chamber.
Amgine
Wikimedia-ca mailing listWikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
Personally, I don't think there are many times when we will need the planning mailing list now that we have our own wiki. Planning and discussion for projects can be done on talk pages where we can more easily follow chains of thought and organize pages. Important general meetings can be done through whatever voice tool we decide is accessible enough for our needs. It's worth keeping a mailing list, but only really for public announcements or requests that people look at a specific discussion page on the wiki. –Jeffery Nichols
On 2011-04-04, at 23:08 , P Lahiry wrote:
So let me guess - you use Bing! as your search engine then?
In all seriousness though, your statement concerning unilateral action seems a bit much. Until the announcement of the Wiki Canada move you had never emailed or contributed to this list. So why would you be crying wolf all of a sudden? If you didn't use it, why do you miss it now? I'm not trying to be facetious but from my standpoint you seem to be stirring up sh*t for the sake of stirring up sh*t.
As for google being the cause of all things wrong with the world - why don't you point us to some evidence that backs up your statements? Just saying it so doesn't make it so. And if it is what you suggest it is, use an alias. Use an anom redirector. There's several ways to get around your fears. I personally could care less about them sucking the privacy right out off me. In fact a personalized ad or two would go a long way for me. But that's just me.
This is the closest anyone has gotten to a Wikimedia Canada chapter in the last 4 years. You might not agree with some people personally but you can't discount their efforts in getting close to chapter status. So please avoid the insults.
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Bob Jonkman bjonkman@sobac.com wrote: FWIW, I appreciate the cross-posting, seeing as how the original mailing list was unilaterally hijacked to be hosted on a commercial for-profit advertising company apparently run by vampires who suck the privacy right out of you. By the same people who are now talking amongst themselves, too.
--Bob.
On 2011-04-04 at 18:17:38 Amgine wrote:
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:38:38 +0000 "P Lahiry" plahiry@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe it's an echo chamber because you keep mailing two lists (both of which you're a subscriber of) at a time?
I was referring to the sense of [[Echo chamber (media)]]; discussion/ideas being reinforced by only a very small number of individuals talking amongst themselves, rather than receiving input from a wider group of peers. Thus my cross-posting to the list with the larger audience of interested readers is an attempt to mitigate the echo chamber.
Amgine
Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
+1 Bob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InFNedaNq6s
Si normalement je n'écris pas aux membres de cette liste de diffusion, c'est notamment parce que les gens n'y échangent qu'exclusivement en anglais, ce qui n'est pas ma langue maternelle. Pur produit de l'éducation publique saguenéenne, j'écris l'anglais tout croche. Je trouvais cependant intéressant de pouvoir suivre « de loin » les activités de Wikimédia Canada grâce à cette liste de diffusion.
Je n'adhèrerai pas à la nouvelle liste. Pas parce que je n'aime pas Google (je n'ai pas vraiment d'opinion sur le sujet malgré le lien vidéo ci-haut), mais parce que je n'ai pas envie d'utiliser une énième plateforme électronique pour échanger. Je suis déjà sur Wikipédia en français, Facebook, Hotmail et Twitter et ça me bouffe tout mon temps.
Je comprends que les gens qui travaillent fort à la création de Wikimédia Canada prennent des initiatives et j'espère pour votre organisme que le futur président de Wikimédia Canada Alan apprendra à être moins maladroit dans ses échanges ("it's that because it's that" n'a jamais été winner comme argumentation).
So be it.
Khayman
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:23:45 -0400 From: bjonkman@sobac.com To: wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Conference calls for meetings
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FWIW, I appreciate the cross-posting, seeing as how the original mailing list was unilaterally hijacked to be hosted on a commercial for-profit advertising company apparently run by vampires who suck the privacy right out of you. By the same people who are now talking amongst themselves, too.
--Bob.
On 2011-04-04 at 18:17:38 Amgine wrote:
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:38:38 +0000 "P Lahiry" plahiry@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe it's an echo chamber because you keep mailing two lists (both of which you're a subscriber of) at a time?
I was referring to the sense of [[Echo chamber (media)]]; discussion/ideas being reinforced by only a very small number of individuals talking amongst themselves, rather than receiving input from a wider group of peers. Thus my cross-posting to the list with the larger audience of interested readers is an attempt to mitigate the echo chamber.
Amgine
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_______________________________________________ Wikimedia-ca mailing list Wikimedia-ca@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca
On 04/05/11 5:02 AM, Simon Villeneuve wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InFNedaNq6s
Si normalement je n'écris pas aux membres de cette liste de diffusion, c'est notamment parce que les gens n'y échangent qu'exclusivement en anglais, ce qui n'est pas ma langue maternelle. Pur produit de l'éducation publique saguenéenne, j'écris l'anglais tout croche. Je trouvais cependant intéressant de pouvoir suivre « de loin » les activités de Wikimédia Canada grâce à cette liste de diffusion.
Je n'adhèrerai pas à la nouvelle liste. Pas parce que je n'aime pas Google (je n'ai pas vraiment d'opinion sur le sujet malgré le lien vidéo ci-haut), mais parce que je n'ai pas envie d'utiliser une énième plateforme électronique pour échanger. Je suis déjà sur Wikipédia en français, Facebook, Hotmail et Twitter et ça me bouffe tout mon temps.
Je comprends que les gens qui travaillent fort à la création de Wikimédia Canada prennent des initiatives et j'espère pour votre organisme que le futur président de Wikimédia Canada Alan apprendra à être moins maladroit dans ses échanges ("it's that because it's that" n'a jamais été winner comme argumentation).
Très bien exprimé. Même si les autres s'expriment en anglais il n'est pas interdit de leur répondre en français. Ces autres ne seront pas au courant des malédictions sans qu'ils les lisent. La muliplicité des listes nous donne toujours bonne raison pour ne pas abonner à une autre, mais j'espère toujours le monde continue de faire attention à nos démarches et qu'il soit conscient que le directorat n'est pas composé entièrement de clowns clonés.
Ray
En fait, il existe de nombreux lecteurs francophones sur la liste. Je suis désolé que certains membres se sentent la liste ne doit être en anglais, je suis l'apprentissage du français! Je désire la pratique.
Je ne suis pas sûr d'avoir compris la dernière phrase.
Il y en a meme parmis nous ceux et celles qui lisent seulement les courriels ecrits en francais, parsqu'ils essayent de (re-)apprendre la langue (mais qui sont quand meme trop paraseux pour former les accents pendant qu'ils utilisent les claviers anglais).
Steve Smith Ancien Wikimedien
2011/4/5 Amgine amgine@wikimedians.ca
En fait, il existe de nombreux lecteurs francophones sur la liste. Je suis désolé que certains membres se sentent la liste ne doit être en anglais, je suis l'apprentissage du français! Je désire la pratique.
Je ne suis pas sûr d'avoir compris la dernière phrase.
-- Amgine amgine@wikimedians.ca
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