Wikimedia-ca May 2008

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[Wikimedia-Canada] Looking for conference help
by Cary Bass 30 May '08

30 May '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sue has asked me to look for trusted volunteers in British Columbia and/or around Toronto who would be able to participate in some conferences about community-building/open access education/non-profit web work. Please respond to me directly...thanks. - -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator Your continued donations keep Wikipedia running! Support the Wikimedia Foundation today: http://donate.wikimedia.org Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. Phone: 415.839.6885 Fax: 415.882.0495 E-Mail: cary(a)wikimedia.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg90QEACgkQyQg4JSymDYk2AgCeNDF3m2TsmF4cV6toUEoxjxtK 6zMAnj2CCHjAGnDzVxdbuyveJCfSejcP =UilC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Wikimania bid
by tom willis 29 May '08

29 May '08

> 2. Re: Wikimedia-ca Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3 (Casey Brown)> I'm not disagreeing with you, but it *will* actually be a better> chance for Canada to get it next year because people are saying the> pressure will be on for it to be in Europe and the US again (Canada,> especially Toronto, aren't that far away). Suggetion: hold it in Vancouver, taking advanatge of any surplus facilities from the 2010 Olympics. Tom[pw] _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000009ukm/direct/01/

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Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Wikimedia-ca Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3
by arctic.gnome＠gmail.com 28 May '08

28 May '08

I would advise against running again next year. For one, next year won't be the Western Hemisphere's "turn", so right off the bad we would be at a disadvantage. Plus if we wait for one more year, hopefully WMC will have completed an initiative or two and will be strong presence to support the bid. -Jeff On 29-Mar-08, at 6:25 PM, wikimedia-ca-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > Send Wikimedia-ca mailing list submissions to > wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimedia-ca-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimedia-ca-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-ca digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Wikimania *2009* > (Alan Walker) > 2. Re: Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Wikimania *2009* > (Geoffrey Plourde) > > From: "Alan Walker" <fastalan(a)gmail.com> > Date: March 29, 2008 5:50:07 PM EDT (CA) > To: "Wikimedia Canada planning list" <wikimedia- > ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > Reply-To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia- > ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > > I think it is presumptuous to assume there is any punishment > rendered for attempting to win a bid. In respect to the jury > comment, it seems they are stating there was a lack of clarity on > the firmness of the offer of facilities for the University of Toronto. > > On 29/03/2008, Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Thats too bad. Move the bid site to another city? Also you could > probably have the results invalidated next year if they are > punishing cities for running. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Andrew Leung <andrewcleung(a)hotmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:11:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > > I'm perplexed by this statement from the jury... > > "However, the jury felt that Buenos Aires' bid showed stronger > organization overall. Additionally, much of the information in the > Toronto bid was carried over from previous bids, and it was unclear > how much of a commitment for the University of Toronto facilities > there was specifically for 2009." > > While I agree most info are the same between the 2008 and 2009 bid, > we did add a lot more information. It sounds like they're trying to > compare whether our bid improved between 2008 and 2009. And it > sounds like they're punishing us for running in the bid twice in a > row. Next year it will be even more unlikely that we'll win the bid > even if we did significant improvement because Australia hasn't has > a chance to host it. > > Andrew > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:08:19 -0700 > From: geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com > To: wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > > Well then lets fix the problems. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 5:34:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > > If you'll read the e-mail by Phoebe that Nick forwarded, you'll see > exactly why BA won and some information on why CA didn't. :-) > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Geoffrey Plourde > <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > run for 2010 and find out why BA won. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Andrew Leung <andrewcleung(a)hotmail.com> > > To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia- > ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:05:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania > > *2009* > > > > > > So are we going to run for 2010's? Or just call it quit? > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:55:43 -0500 > > > From: nicholasmoreau(a)gmail.com > > > To: wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Subject: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania > > *2009* > > > > > > So everybody is aware... > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com> > > > Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:21 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Wikimania *2009* > > > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > > <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, "Wikimania general list (open > > > subscription)" <wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > > > > > > > > I was so excited about sending the announcement that I forgot to > > > proofread the subject line! Oh well. Both *2008* AND *2009* > should be > > > exciting conferences :) > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:44 AM, phoebe ayers > <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > All, > > > > > > > > We are pleased to announce that Buenos Aires has been > selected as the > > > > location for Wikimania 2009. > > > > > > > > The jury was particularly excited by a few parts of the > Buenos Aires > > bid: > > > > * A strong, organized team, with division of labor already > underway > > > > and support from Wikimedia Argentina. Many people contributed > to the > > > > bid, with obvious enthusiasm for organizing the conference > and quick > > > > responses to inquiries. > > > > * A detailed budget proposal and planning schedule. Many major > > > > expenses are being covered by the provider. The total budget is > > > > similar to Wikimania 2007's, including a larger travel > scholarship > > > > fund, and they have provided detailed charts ahead of time. > > > > * A significant number of sponsors already lined up, with > some already > > > > confirmed. They hope to cover half the accommodation and $60k in > > > > travel scholarships, which will help to ease travel costs for > > > > participants from far away. > > > > * A solid venue : as with Toronto, this was situated within a > > > > well-maintained cultural center in a major international > city, near an > > > > airline hub; culturally open, and an international melting pot. > > > > * Relaxed visa rules, and easy entry from South American > countries. > > > > * Good Spanish-language media contacts, with the promise of > outreach > > > > to and the opportunity to work with the Spanish-language > Wikimedia > > > > communities. > > > > > > > > Toronto, the runner up, also provided a great bid. The jury was > > > > especially excited by: > > > > * Strong English-language press in the area, and media > experience > > > > among the bid team > > > > * A very accessible venue, especially for US/European attendees. > > > > * An excellent venue : a university campus, with dorms > directly at the > > > > venue. As with Buenos Aires, it was situated within a well- > maintained > > > > cultural center in a major international city, near an > airline hub; > > > > culturally open, and an international melting pot. > > > > * Extensive budget accommodation in the dorms; with many > options for > > > > casual social space. > > > > * A dedicated bid team, with the hope of Wikimedia Canada > being formed > > > > in time to help coordinate. > > > > > > > > However, the jury felt that Buenos Aires' bid showed stronger > > > > organization overall. Additionally, much of the information > in the > > > > Toronto bid was carried over from previous bids, and it was > unclear > > > > how much of a commitment for the University of Toronto > facilities > > > > there was specifically for 2009. > > > > > > > > Brisbane and Karlsruhe also provided good bids. Brisbane in > particular > > > > had an enthusiastic bid team and a strong proposal, with > particularly > > > > good local sponsorship opportunities; though this was offset > by the > > > > high travel costs for out-of-country attendees. The jury felt > both > > > > bids needed more detail (including specifics about accommodation > > > > options, and more detailed budget information) to be compelling. > > > > > > > > As in previous years, the relative accessibility of locations > was > > > > extensively discussed. The jury believes that it's important for > > > > Wikimania to be accessible to as wide an audience as possible, > > > > particularly to members of the Wikimedia community; the > relatively > > > > high cost of travel to South America from Europe and North > America was > > > > one of the most significant drawbacks we identified in the > Buenos > > > > Aires bid—especially coming on the heels of Taipei and > Alexandria. > > > > Having said that, the jury believes that the Buenos Aires bid > overcame > > > > this drawback with its numerous advantages, among those the > > > > opportunity to hold the conference in a Spanish-speaking > locale, on a > > > > new continent. We hope to receive strong bids from easily > accessible > > > > locations for 2010. > > > > > > > > Congratulations to the Buenos Aires team! Wikimania 2009 > promises to > > > > be an exciting and successful conference. > > > > > > > > -- Phoebe Ayers, Cary Bass, James Forrester (non-voting jury > > > > moderators), on behalf of the Wikimania 2009 Jury > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009/Jury > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > foundation-l mailing list > > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > foundation-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > > > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > > > > Is your lingo strong enough to ace these new word puzzles from > Live Search > > Games? Click here to test your vocab! > > > > ________________________________ > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster > > Total Access, No Cost. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > > > > > > > > -- > Casey Brown > Cbrown1023 > > --- > Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal > emails sent to > this address will probably get lost. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > > > No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal > for Yahoo! users and friends. > > Hunt for a chance to win a Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder! Click here to > enter > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > > > > > -- > View Alan Walker's profile on LinkedIn > [http://www.linkedin.com/in/walker1] > > From: Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com> > Date: March 29, 2008 6:25:24 PM EDT (CA) > To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > Reply-To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia- > ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > > Well then, lets fix the bid and resubmit. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Alan Walker <fastalan(a)gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:50:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > > I think it is presumptuous to assume there is any punishment > rendered for attempting to win a bid. In respect to the jury > comment, it seems they are stating there was a lack of clarity on > the firmness of the offer of facilities for the University of Toronto. > > On 29/03/2008, Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Thats too bad. Move the bid site to another city? Also you could > probably have the results invalidated next year if they are > punishing cities for running. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Andrew Leung <andrewcleung(a)hotmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:11:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > > I'm perplexed by this statement from the jury... > > "However, the jury felt that Buenos Aires' bid showed stronger > organization overall. Additionally, much of the information in the > Toronto bid was carried over from previous bids, and it was unclear > how much of a commitment for the University of Toronto facilities > there was specifically for 2009." > > While I agree most info are the same between the 2008 and 2009 bid, > we did add a lot more information. It sounds like they're trying to > compare whether our bid improved between 2008 and 2009. And it > sounds like they're punishing us for running in the bid twice in a > row. Next year it will be even more unlikely that we'll win the bid > even if we did significant improvement because Australia hasn't has > a chance to host it. > > Andrew > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:08:19 -0700 > From: geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com > To: wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > > Well then lets fix the problems. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 5:34:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania *2009* > > If you'll read the e-mail by Phoebe that Nick forwarded, you'll see > exactly why BA won and some information on why CA didn't. :-) > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Geoffrey Plourde > <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > run for 2010 and find out why BA won. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Andrew Leung <andrewcleung(a)hotmail.com> > > To: Wikimedia Canada planning list <wikimedia- > ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:05:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania > > *2009* > > > > > > So are we going to run for 2010's? Or just call it quit? > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:55:43 -0500 > > > From: nicholasmoreau(a)gmail.com > > > To: wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Subject: [Wikimedia-Canada] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Announcement: > Wikimania > > *2009* > > > > > > So everybody is aware... > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com> > > > Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:21 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Wikimania *2009* > > > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > > <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, "Wikimania general list (open > > > subscription)" <wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > > > > > > > > I was so excited about sending the announcement that I forgot to > > > proofread the subject line! Oh well. Both *2008* AND *2009* > should be > > > exciting conferences :) > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:44 AM, phoebe ayers > <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > All, > > > > > > > > We are pleased to announce that Buenos Aires has been > selected as the > > > > location for Wikimania 2009. > > > > > > > > The jury was particularly excited by a few parts of the > Buenos Aires > > bid: > > > > * A strong, organized team, with division of labor already > underway > > > > and support from Wikimedia Argentina. Many people contributed > to the > > > > bid, with obvious enthusiasm for organizing the conference > and quick > > > > responses to inquiries. > > > > * A detailed budget proposal and planning schedule. Many major > > > > expenses are being covered by the provider. The total budget is > > > > similar to Wikimania 2007's, including a larger travel > scholarship > > > > fund, and they have provided detailed charts ahead of time. > > > > * A significant number of sponsors already lined up, with > some already > > > > confirmed. They hope to cover half the accommodation and $60k in > > > > travel scholarships, which will help to ease travel costs for > > > > participants from far away. > > > > * A solid venue : as with Toronto, this was situated within a > > > > well-maintained cultural center in a major international > city, near an > > > > airline hub; culturally open, and an international melting pot. > > > > * Relaxed visa rules, and easy entry from South American > countries. > > > > * Good Spanish-language media contacts, with the promise of > outreach > > > > to and the opportunity to work with the Spanish-language > Wikimedia > > > > communities. > > > > > > > > Toronto, the runner up, also provided a great bid. The jury was > > > > especially excited by: > > > > * Strong English-language press in the area, and media > experience > > > > among the bid team > > > > * A very accessible venue, especially for US/European attendees. > > > > * An excellent venue : a university campus, with dorms > directly at the > > > > venue. As with Buenos Aires, it was situated within a well- > maintained > > > > cultural center in a major international city, near an > airline hub; > > > > culturally open, and an international melting pot. > > > > * Extensive budget accommodation in the dorms; with many > options for > > > > casual social space. > > > > * A dedicated bid team, with the hope of Wikimedia Canada > being formed > > > > in time to help coordinate. > > > > > > > > However, the jury felt that Buenos Aires' bid showed stronger > > > > organization overall. Additionally, much of the information > in the > > > > Toronto bid was carried over from previous bids, and it was > unclear > > > > how much of a commitment for the University of Toronto > facilities > > > > there was specifically for 2009. > > > > > > > > Brisbane and Karlsruhe also provided good bids. Brisbane in > particular > > > > had an enthusiastic bid team and a strong proposal, with > particularly > > > > good local sponsorship opportunities; though this was offset > by the > > > > high travel costs for out-of-country attendees. The jury felt > both > > > > bids needed more detail (including specifics about accommodation > > > > options, and more detailed budget information) to be compelling. > > > > > > > > As in previous years, the relative accessibility of locations > was > > > > extensively discussed. The jury believes that it's important for > > > > Wikimania to be accessible to as wide an audience as possible, > > > > particularly to members of the Wikimedia community; the > relatively > > > > high cost of travel to South America from Europe and North > America was > > > > one of the most significant drawbacks we identified in the > Buenos > > > > Aires bid—especially coming on the heels of Taipei and > Alexandria. > > > > Having said that, the jury believes that the Buenos Aires bid > overcame > > > > this drawback with its numerous advantages, among those the > > > > opportunity to hold the conference in a Spanish-speaking > locale, on a > > > > new continent. We hope to receive strong bids from easily > accessible > > > > locations for 2010. > > > > > > > > Congratulations to the Buenos Aires team! Wikimania 2009 > promises to > > > > be an exciting and successful conference. > > > > > > > > -- Phoebe Ayers, Cary Bass, James Forrester (non-voting jury > > > > moderators), on behalf of the Wikimania 2009 Jury > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009/Jury > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > foundation-l mailing list > > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > foundation-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > > > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > > > > Is your lingo strong enough to ace these new word puzzles from > Live Search > > Games? Click here to test your vocab! > > > > ________________________________ > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster > > Total Access, No Cost. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > > > > > > > > -- > Casey Brown > Cbrown1023 > > --- > Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal > emails sent to > this address will probably get lost. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > > > No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal > for Yahoo! users and friends. > > Hunt for a chance to win a Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder! Click here to > enter > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca > > > > > -- > View Alan Walker's profile on LinkedIn > [http://www.linkedin.com/in/walker1] > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-ca mailing list > Wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-ca

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Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] Next Meeting
by Jeff Nichols 26 May '08

26 May '08

May I be so bold as to request a day other than the 4th? Since the summer started, Wednesdays have been my bad day. For that specific week the Tuesday doesn't work for me either, as I'll be at my graduation ceremony at the time. I hate to cause problems with scheduling, but I'd really like to be at the next meeting. -Jeff "Arctic Gnome" Nichols

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[Wikimedia-Canada] Next Meeting - June 2
by Gerald A 26 May '08

26 May '08

Hi everyone, We have an upcoming meeting for WM Canada planning: Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2008 Time: 20:00 EDT (00:00 UTC) We had a bunch of issues with Teamspeak, and ended up having the meeting by IRC. It was suggested that we try something like Skype or Asterisk to eliminate these issues. If we can get some feedback before next Wednesday, I'll try to put together the instructions so anyone who wants to participate can do so -- otherwise we'll stick with IRC and Teamspeak. Meeting Agenda is at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Canada/Meetings/2008-06-02 Please add anything that you'd like to bring up at the meeting there. Thanks, Gerald.

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[Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US
by Padraic 25 May '08

25 May '08

Hi there, I remember at one point the idea being tossed around that Wikimedia Canada could host materials on wikimedia.ca that are PD in Canada, but not the US. At [[Commons:Deletion requests/Library and Archives Canada non-PD images]], I think we've discovered such a class of images: photos taken after 1949, whose copyright is either corporate or Crown. In Canada, their copyright expires 50 years after publication, but in the US, since they were not PD in 1996 when the URAA was passed, they won't enter the PD untill 95 years fter publication. I think it'd be nice to host them somewhere for that 45-year gap, since Canadian users would be able to use them, and we would know exactly when they'd be eligible for Commons. Right now, there are only 4 such images, but clearly there is a huge potential for more materials (especially when you consider things like the NFB). Assuming the 4 images get deleted from Commons, I'm going to throw them up on my Flickr page, with the appropriate copyright notices. However, I just thought I'd say that I'd be interested in working such a Wikimedia-CA project -- and more importantly, if there is enough material to warrant starting such a wiki, in a non-WMF-sanctioned, third-party way, before all the official chapter stuff gets sorted out, I'd be interested in working on that. I'd even be willing to get a domain name (cancommons.ca?) and host it all, if other people were willing to contribute. Thoughts? Padraic -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Padraic http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Padraic http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Padraic http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Padraic

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Re: [Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US
by Geoffrey Plourde 23 May '08

23 May '08

This might be a possibility ----- Original Message ---- From: Padraic <user.padraic(a)gmail.com> To: wikimedia-ca(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:23:32 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-Canada] PD in Canada, but not the US Hi there, I remember at one point the idea being tossed around that Wikimedia Canada could host materials on wikimedia.ca that are PD in Canada, but not the US. At [[Commons:Deletion requests/Library and Archives Canada non-PD images]], I think we've discovered such a class of images: photos taken after 1949, whose copyright is either corporate or Crown. In Canada, their copyright expires 50 years after publication, but in the US, since they were not PD in 1996 when the URAA was passed, they won't enter the PD untill 95 years fter publication. I think it'd be nice to host them somewhere for that 45-year gap, since Canadian users would be able to use them, and we would know exactly when they'd be eligible for Commons. Right now, there are only 4 such images, but clearly there is a huge potential for more materials (especially when you consider things like the NFB). Assuming the 4 images get deleted from Commons, I'm going to throw them up on my Flickr page, with the appropriate copyright notices. However, I just thought I'd say that I'd be interested in working such a Wikimedia-CA project -- and more importantly, if there is enough material to warrant starting such a wiki, in a non-WMF-sanctioned, third-party way, before all the official chapter stuff gets sorted out, I'd be interested in working on that. I'd even be willing to get a domain name (cancommons.ca?) and host it all, if other people were willing to contribute. Thoughts? Padraic -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Padraic http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Padraic http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Padraic http://wikitravel.org/en/User:Padraic

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