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----- Reply message ----- Od: "Butch Bustria" butch@wikimedia.org.ph Do: "Asian Wikimedia Chapters coordination" wikimedia-asia-chapters@lists.wikimedia.org Temat: [Wikimedia-asia-chapters] Berlin Conference Data: niedz., kwi 8, 2012 20:21 Well, I understand that each chapters have their own preferences. Though the WLM was an initiative by some of our key officers, we dont shoot the idea down. Each of us in the Philippines always welcome good ideas as long as its well planned and its beneficial. We always disregard where it came from. Your projects are good too, all it takes is just understanding of it. We face challenge in getting active volunteers and for the first time go on nationwide projects and your chapter story is interesting to note.

It has been nice to know our ASEAN sisters in the conference. Though we have differences, we have common interests and this interaction we are doing today (though some may consider not good conversation) is still good because were are now talking more than before.

So this brings me to a conclusion that I will make a visit to Indonesia part of my medium-term wish list. :) --  Roman "Butch" Bustria Jr. Wikimedia Philippines Inc.

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On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Siska Doviana siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id wrote:

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Butch Bustria butch@wikimedia.org.ph wrote:

Though personally, I can rate our chapter as your little brother chapter and your chapter is our big sister and the 2011-2012 chapters are toddlers

I would suggest that people stop rating :D

FYI in 2007 when we haven't become a chapter yet or I'm not even sure

I like to pursue one, *I* came to Taipei to learn about Wikimedia

Taiwan via Wikimania and hope that they will take a role as our

guidance, where we can learn from them.

*to be honest I am still hoping now*

We hope that we can do little steps like communicating bi-chapters like my own initiative to fly to Hong Kong and have web conferences.

*grin*

We're not flying anyone until we understand what the need are and

whether it suit to the training that we provided. Too expensive.

Without a clear RoI (return of investment) it jeopardizing the

*future* grant request even WMID track record. We *of course* will

avoid that at all cost.

I also hope that financial constraints and limited person time wont be a hindrance to our relations

Apsara only take off if we receive the grant. Which we haven't even

asked for yet. Therefore it eliminates financial constraint, the grant

will bore the expenses. However the grant will not bore the limited

person time, since we realize it exist. If you have limited time, and

will not be able to conduct project after the training (will be

decided during assessment per communication between potential trainer/

trainee during identification of whether or not one need training for

*three days* for example) - then although the money available,

probably one is not the best person attending the training.

We're aiming *the* interested and willing.

Another example is if PH would like to conduct Wiki Loves Monument. By

all mean, don't come to Indonesia, we never done that before :D nor

interested to provide training for it. You'd probably best invite the

Netherlanders - for example. If the Netherlanders are willing to come

i.e to Phillipines with their own funding, asks Apsara to funded

Bangladeshian or Indian or Korean to fly to Philipine to listen for

the workshop and we'll send you the money. *shrug*

That's it.

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Siska Doviana | Ketua Umum (Chair) 2011-2012

Wikimedia Indonesia

Cell. +62 816 484 5052

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