I'm doing a research work on Wikipedia, thanks to the API, I have got most of the data I need. But now I'm trying to assess user's reputation, and thus I need to get the deleted revisions of a user. However, API says I don't have permission to view deleted revision information. I really need this data, please help me. Thanks a lot!
You'll have to follow the wiki's system for granting such rights. We don't have the ability to give it to you as MW developers.
On 29 October 2015 at 03:30, shiyue zhang byryuer@gmail.com wrote:
I'm doing a research work on Wikipedia, thanks to the API, I have got most of the data I need. But now I'm trying to assess user's reputation, and thus I need to get the deleted revisions of a user. However, API says I don't have permission to view deleted revision information. I really need this data, please help me. Thanks a lot!
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If you are trying to get an idea of reputation you might mean to be looking at reverted edits, not deleted ones. Not sure its a better metric, but i would expect rather few users to have deleted edits.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Alex Monk krenair@gmail.com wrote:
You'll have to follow the wiki's system for granting such rights. We don't have the ability to give it to you as MW developers.
On 29 October 2015 at 03:30, shiyue zhang byryuer@gmail.com wrote:
I'm doing a research work on Wikipedia, thanks to the API, I have got most of the data I need. But now I'm trying to assess user's reputation, and thus I need to get the deleted revisions of a user. However, API says I don't have permission to view deleted revision information. I really need this data, please help me. Thanks a lot!
--
Zhang Shiyue
*Tel*: +86 18801167900
*E-mail*: byryuer@gmail.com, yuer3677@163.com
State Key Laboratory of Networking and Switching Technology
No.10 Xitucheng Road, Haidian District
Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications
Beijing, China.
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On 29/10/15 05:10, Erik Bernhardson wrote:
If you are trying to get an idea of reputation you might mean to be looking at reverted edits, not deleted ones. Not sure its a better metric, but i would expect rather few users to have deleted edits.
If only the number of deleted edits is needed (instead of the actual contents), that may be available via stats websites.
Also note that having many deleted edits is in itself not a sign of being untrusted. Quite the opposite, the people with more deleted edits will be those that perform maintenance tasks most, placing many deletion templates (whether they correctly evaluated or not the article merits before placing such templates is a different matter)
Regards
Oh, yes, you're right, it seems I misunderstand the meaning of "deleted edits". The "reverted edits" are exactly I'm looking for. But how can I get it? Is there an API for it? @Erik Bernhardson @Platonides
Thanks a lot!
2015-10-30 9:25 GMT+08:00 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
On 29/10/15 05:10, Erik Bernhardson wrote:
If you are trying to get an idea of reputation you might mean to be looking at reverted edits, not deleted ones. Not sure its a better metric, but i would expect rather few users to have deleted edits.
If only the number of deleted edits is needed (instead of the actual contents), that may be available via stats websites.
Also note that having many deleted edits is in itself not a sign of being untrusted. Quite the opposite, the people with more deleted edits will be those that perform maintenance tasks most, placing many deletion templates (whether they correctly evaluated or not the article merits before placing such templates is a different matter)
Regards
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I know these folks https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service are working on them, seeing e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ORES/reverted. They may already have interesting data for you.
Il 02/11/2015 08:15, shiyue zhang ha scritto:
Oh, yes, you're right, it seems I misunderstand the meaning of "deleted edits". The "reverted edits" are exactly I'm looking for. But how can I get it? Is there an API for it? @Erik Bernhardson @Platonides
Thanks a lot!
2015-10-30 9:25 GMT+08:00 Platonides <platonides@gmail.com mailto:platonides@gmail.com>:
On 29/10/15 05:10, Erik Bernhardson wrote: If you are trying to get an idea of reputation you might mean to be looking at reverted edits, not deleted ones. Not sure its a better metric, but i would expect rather few users to have deleted edits. If only the number of deleted edits is needed (instead of the actual contents), that may be available via stats websites. Also note that having many deleted edits is in itself not a sign of being untrusted. Quite the opposite, the people with more deleted edits will be those that perform maintenance tasks most, placing many deletion templates (whether they correctly evaluated or not the article merits before placing such templates is a different matter) Regards _______________________________________________ Mediawiki-api mailing list Mediawiki-api@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Mediawiki-api@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api--
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*E-mail*: byryuer@gmail.com mailto:byryuer@gmail.com, yuer3677@163.com mailto:yuer3677@163.com
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Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications
Beijing, China.
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Hi Zhang,
You should check out Aaron Halfaker's revert detection toolkit here: http://pythonhosted.org/mwreverts/
Also, if you have additional questions about researching Wikipedia, you can ask them on our research mailing list as well: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Best, Jonathan
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:15 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisamoa@openmailbox.org wrote:
I know these folks https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service are working on them, seeing e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ORES/reverted https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ORES/reverted. They may already have interesting data for you.
Il 02/11/2015 08:15, shiyue zhang ha scritto:
Oh, yes, you're right, it seems I misunderstand the meaning of "deleted edits". The "reverted edits" are exactly I'm looking for. But how can I get it? Is there an API for it? @Erik Bernhardson @Platonides
Thanks a lot!
2015-10-30 9:25 GMT+08:00 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
On 29/10/15 05:10, Erik Bernhardson wrote:
If you are trying to get an idea of reputation you might mean to be looking at reverted edits, not deleted ones. Not sure its a better metric, but i would expect rather few users to have deleted edits.
If only the number of deleted edits is needed (instead of the actual contents), that may be available via stats websites.
Also note that having many deleted edits is in itself not a sign of being untrusted. Quite the opposite, the people with more deleted edits will be those that perform maintenance tasks most, placing many deletion templates (whether they correctly evaluated or not the article merits before placing such templates is a different matter)
Regards
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*E-mail*: byryuer@gmail.combyryuer@gmail.com, yuer3677@163.com yuer3677@163.com
State Key Laboratory of Networking and Switching Technology
No.10 Xitucheng Road, Haidian District
Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications
Beijing, China.
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Also (from Aaron on IRC, just now): "Note that, if they are doing small scale work (less than 100k revisions), they might want this: http://pythonhosted.org/mwreverts/api.html#mwreverts.api.check"
Oh yeah, BTW we have an IRC channel :) It's #wikimedia-research on Freenode. More information here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels
- J
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Morgan jmorgan@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Zhang,
You should check out Aaron Halfaker's revert detection toolkit here: http://pythonhosted.org/mwreverts/
Also, if you have additional questions about researching Wikipedia, you can ask them on our research mailing list as well: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
Best, Jonathan
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 4:15 AM, Ricordisamoa <ricordisamoa@openmailbox.org
wrote:
I know these folks https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service are working on them, seeing e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ORES/reverted https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ORES/reverted. They may already have interesting data for you.
Il 02/11/2015 08:15, shiyue zhang ha scritto:
Oh, yes, you're right, it seems I misunderstand the meaning of "deleted edits". The "reverted edits" are exactly I'm looking for. But how can I get it? Is there an API for it? @Erik Bernhardson @Platonides
Thanks a lot!
2015-10-30 9:25 GMT+08:00 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
On 29/10/15 05:10, Erik Bernhardson wrote:
If you are trying to get an idea of reputation you might mean to be looking at reverted edits, not deleted ones. Not sure its a better metric, but i would expect rather few users to have deleted edits.
If only the number of deleted edits is needed (instead of the actual contents), that may be available via stats websites.
Also note that having many deleted edits is in itself not a sign of being untrusted. Quite the opposite, the people with more deleted edits will be those that perform maintenance tasks most, placing many deletion templates (whether they correctly evaluated or not the article merits before placing such templates is a different matter)
Regards
Mediawiki-api mailing list Mediawiki-api@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api
--
Zhang Shiyue
*Tel*: +86 18801167900
*E-mail*: byryuer@gmail.combyryuer@gmail.com, yuer3677@163.com yuer3677@163.com
State Key Laboratory of Networking and Switching Technology
No.10 Xitucheng Road, Haidian District
Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications
Beijing, China.
Mediawiki-api mailing listMediawiki-api@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api
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-- Jonathan T. Morgan Senior Design Researcher Wikimedia Foundation User:Jmorgan (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jmorgan_(WMF)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Access_to_non-public_data might be a useful link.
On 10/28/15, Alex Monk krenair@gmail.com wrote:
You'll have to follow the wiki's system for granting such rights. We don't have the ability to give it to you as MW developers.
On 29 October 2015 at 03:30, shiyue zhang byryuer@gmail.com wrote:
I'm doing a research work on Wikipedia, thanks to the API, I have got most of the data I need. But now I'm trying to assess user's reputation, and thus I need to get the deleted revisions of a user. However, API says I don't have permission to view deleted revision information. I really need this data, please help me. Thanks a lot!
--
Zhang Shiyue
*Tel*: +86 18801167900
*E-mail*: byryuer@gmail.com, yuer3677@163.com
State Key Laboratory of Networking and Switching Technology
No.10 Xitucheng Road, Haidian District
Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications
Beijing, China.
Mediawiki-api mailing list Mediawiki-api@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api
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