This thread has been immensely useful in assisting with my thinking about strategies to
promote 1Lib1Ref with colleagues and other librarians here in South Africa. The idea
of having the libraries (and then schools) mentioned in the Wikipedia articles on the
individual towns seems to me to be a good strategy to get librarians to dip their toes in
the Wikipedia waters.
Thank you v much!
Regards
Ingrid Thomson
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From: Libraries [mailto:libraries-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry
Raymond
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Subject: Re: [libraries] Meeting Librarians Soon. Help!
Yes, unfortunately the way we often promote 1Lib1Ref can leave that impression (it’s
cleaning-up after some lazy Wikipedians!). There are a number of ways to deal with this.
Firstly explain away “1 Ref”, just say that it’s asking librarians to take a first step,
and obviously we hope they will do more than 1. Tell them it can 1Lib10Ref if they
prefer.
Second, the topic doesn’t have to be random. If the library has a particular topic area of
interest (probably something they actively collect and are proud of), talk to them about
adding citations in articles relating to that topic area. Now your librarians are
exploiting their special collection material and their special expertise in that
collections. Such citations (particularly if they refer to online accessible content on
their website or at least a catalogue entry) will drive interest in the library (and its
website). Librarians like that because it provides a way by which they can promote their
special collection (without crossing the COI boundary – remember [[WP:CURATOR]] says it is
not COI for a GLAM to do edits that relate to the content of the GLAM’s collections).
The way to work with a special topic is to *not* use Citation Hunt but rather use the
tool Petscan to find the articles in their topic of interest that need citations
https://petscan.wmflabs.org/<https://protect-za.mimecast.com/s/Ngc8CxGzD…
with which you can construct a list of articles within a specific category tree in
Wikipedia (which relates to one of library’s area of interest) which are intersected with
the tracking category “All articles with unsourced statements” (which means the article
has a citation-needed template in it). Note, that the documentation for most of those
“quality” tags usually mentions a tracking category (so you can look for other quality
issues if you want)
So if your library’s special interests is Egypt, then here’s an example of a search for
citations needed in Egypt articles
https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&depth=3&…
That query (with depth 3) produced 845 articles. But if you want more, try depth 4 (1465
results), then 5 (2186 results), etc (the greater the depth, the slower the execution, but
you probably have more than enough with 845 possible articles!
I print these Petscan lists out, and progressively cut them up into some single article
strips (for the total beginner) and into some larger multiple-article strips (for the
not-beginner), put them in a “lucky dip” box and let people draw out one or a group at
random. Or let them choose from a single big list (but get them to mark off the one they
are doing so people aren’t duplicating their effort or creating edit conflicts). Whether
or not they succeed in finding a citation, throw away that topic after their attempt.
Don’t let them spend too long on any one topic (there’s plenty more articles if one proves
difficult). It’s quite OK to focus on the easy wins as it is a more positive experience
for them and all citations added benefit Wikipedia. (Aside, if your expert librarians
can’t find a citation in their area of special interest, it may be a hint to you that
maybe it’s time to remove that content from Wikipedia as perhaps no citation does
exist).
If adding citations doesn’t appeal, then try away the whole citation-needed idea and
pursue a “let’s expand articles about your topics of interests” or “let’s add photos from
your collection” Call it 1Lib1Expand or1Lib1Photo if you like. Explain that the campaign
is just to provide a focus for librarians to engage with Wikipedia. However they want to
engage is just fine. It’s all improving Wikipedia. Here’s an idea that might appeal to
other libraries:
At State Library of Queensland last year, we had a sub-goal for 1Lib1Ref. We said to
ourselves that public libraries are important civic amenities (and what librarian doesn’t
believe that!) and that every public library in Queensland therefore should be mentioned
in the Wikipedia article for that town/suburb/district. So we used
http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/visit-us/find-a-public-library/browse-library-bra…
as our lucky dip list and the pages linked from it and also this master spreadsheet of
other info about all public libraries as our sources
http://www.plconnect.slq.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0012/388497/SLQ_…
to add a few snippets about each public library (cited to the sources above). We added the
address of the library and who operates it and the year it opened and anything special
about that library that was worthy of mention (e.g. special collections). So just a
sentence or two with citations. Thanks to 1Lib1Ref, we now have every Qld public library
(and its mobile libraries stop-off points) mentioned in the relevant Wikipedia article.
(The only catch is that it turned out that there were places with public libraries but
without Wikipedia articles – those were handed to me, and I created a basic place article,
and the library was thrown back in the lucky dip jar when I had made the article.) Now the
librarians involved (about 40 of them who did about 25 edits each on average) really
engaged well with this; libraries are meaningful to them and so they saw value in doing
the task. When we finished doing public libraries, we started working on lists of Qld
schools (education matters to librarians too). I note that we do 1Lib1Ref in “editathon”
sessions and the librarians enjoy the social aspect of that (although people are free to
do it at their desks if they prefer and many leave the editathon session with some extra
lucky dip topics saying they will do them at their desk or at home that night). OK, this
is not “traditional” 1Lib1Ref but let’s call it 1Lib1Lib or 1Lib1School ☺
So don’t see the format proposed for 1Lib1Ref as a straightjacket. It’s just one way to
engage librarians and Citation Hunt does provide a set of tasks for the individual
librarian who might be interested but who isn’t in an outreach relationship. But if
another way works better for the librarian in an outreach situation (and particularly so
if you are working with a library rather than an individual librarian), then just do it
that other way. It’s the engagement that matters, not the format. No matter what they do,
they acquire some Wikipedia skills, which they might continue to use on their own or be
willing to use in another partnership or campaign. It’s a first-step campaign. Once they
have taken it, you need to work out what step 2, 3, and 4 is for them.
Kerry
“I would like, if I may, to take you on a strange journey” – Rocky Horror Picture Show
From: Libraries [mailto:libraries-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Paulo Santos
Perneta
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2018 10:54 PM
To: libraries@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:libraries@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [libraries] Meeting Librarians Soon. Help!
Last #1lib1ref was not successful here: The librarians we've contacted were not
interested in fixing references for random articles, and they had difficulties on
understanding why they should get through all the trouble of learning to edit Wikipedia
just to fulfill the objective of 1 ref per librarian.
Probably in the next edition we'll be reformulating the contest locally to make it
more attractive to them.
Paulo
Jean-Philippe Béland <jpbeland@wikimedia.ca<mailto:jpbeland@wikimedia.ca>>
escreveu no dia segunda, 17/09/2018 à(s) 13:39:
Hello Reem,
I'm not a librarian, but what worked well with librarians here in Quebec, Canada was
the #1lib1ref campaign. We organized a little friendly competition between different
university and institutional libraries and it was very successful in my opinion. We also
invited students in relevant university courses to participate and taught them how to add
references to Wikipedia. From what I have been told, since last year, the International
Federation of Library Association (IFLA) is actively supporting the cooperation between
libraries and WMF projects, especially through #1lib1ref. I'm sure there are people
more qualified than me on this mailing list to explain to you what is #1lib1ref, but you
can find information about it on Meta-Wiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref.<https://…
Thank you and good luck with your meeting!
Jean-Philippe Béland
Wikimédia Canada
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Reem Al-Kashif
<reemalkashif@gmail.com<mailto:reemalkashif@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
Hope this finds you well. I didn't plan on meeting librarians at a university here in
Cairo, Egypt, but they expressed interest in Wikipedia, so we are meeting :). The problem
is, I really don't know what activities to offer them. I have zero experience in
Wiki+libraries collaborations. It would be more than great if anybody could help me out.
What I need is:
1. Understanding the nature of librarians work (I know it is a big topic, but some general
remarks would do).
2. Having examples of activities they can be part of to contribute to Wiki (be it
Wikipedia or Wikimedia).
3. Understanding how rewarding those activities are (so that I explain to them)
4. Having examples of similar activities, if any, around the world.
Bonus point 5. Having a clear plan of action to give them (i.e. what do we do after the
meeting and so on)
Thank you so so much in advance for helping me navigate this uncharted territory.
Best,
Reem
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Kind regards,
Reem Al-Kashif
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