1. Great idea on adding libraries! I know who I want to ask about this when
I get back from vacation.
How about a policy proposal to go along with this that all libraries are
notable, and deserve articles? That provides an incentive for cooperation.
2. As a librarian, I allow 20 min. to verify a fact, not 2 minutes. It
can take an hour or more to cross check against different sources,
especially if you are in an unfamiliar content area where you don't know
the sources.
One of the strengths of Wikipedia is that you can take the time you need to
get things right. Some facts are very quick, and others are a labor of
love. You can't always tell which is which beforehand.
3. If you want librarians to cooperate with the plan of thousands of
individuals adding facts on the job, I'd suggest working for a less toxic
editing environment on the site. In real life, librarians get to ask
patrons to leave when their conduct is unacceptable. By contrast, on
Wikipedia, the people who make requests for more civilized behavior can
be the ones who are asked to leave.
It may be acceptable to recruit people to work for free in a social club
known for off color language, heated arguments, and verbal abuse, but that
is because volunteers are free to leave. Accepting this sort of
poor treatment as a condition of employment is another matter altogether.
We librarians in the U.S. can all thank the public employees' unions for
sticking up for decent working conditions for librarians all these years.
--Kristin
Librarian, and former union steward
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Hi there,
Imagine my delight that you are creating a list of all the libraries in
the world! However this does present a bit of an issue – are all libraries
notable? The American Library Association estimates that there are around
120,000 libraries but doesn’t have an exact number because there is not a
survey that covers all of them. Since librarians are discouraged from
creating articles about their own institutions, this could be problematic?
If this is an initiative that has broad approval I’m happy to help in any
way that I can!
http://www.ala.org/tools/libfactsheets/alalibraryfactsheet01
Merrilee Proffitt, Senior Program Officer
OCLC Research
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Subject: Re: [libraries] [Wikidata] How can Wikidata get over 30, 000, 000
facts added a year ?
2015-06-23 9:00 GMT+02:00 Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada <emijrp(a)gmail.com
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2015-06-23 8:49 GMT+02:00 Lucian Velea <lucian.velea(a)lexica.ro
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Great idea. Does anyone know a statistics of number of libraries /
librarians by country?
I compiled some numbers here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emijrp/All_human_knowledge#Libraries
And started a list of lists that needs to be completed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_libraries_by_country
Is anyone interested in contacting national libraries/culture ministries
so they can provide info about all the libraries for each country?
I have been working in Lists of museums/archives/libraries by country long
time, but I only find partial lists and the work is slow. How can we make
these institutions get involved?
All the best,
Lucian
On 23.06.2015 9:14, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
That is only librarians in the USA.. Why not think big? There is a world
out there !!
Thanks,
GerardM
On 23 June 2015 at 05:51, Thad Guidry <thadguidry(a)gmail.com <javascript:;>
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If 1 librarian in the USA added one fact or verified / qualified it per
work day in their spare 2 mins a day.
119,729 Libraries in USA
x
1 Librarian minimum per Library with internet access...mostly :-)
x
251 work days in a year
=
30,051,979 MILLION facts that could be added or verified
Get the word out,
Thad
+ThadGuidry<https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry>
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