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Indigenous Language Digital Activism
by eddie avila 03 Jun '15

03 Jun '15

Hello all - I’m new here, but really interested in the topic. My name is Eddie Avila and I’m the Director of Rising Voices, an initiative of Global Voices <http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/>. We work to support new, diverse, and underrepresented voices as they use participatory digital media to tell their own stories on their own terms. A special interest of ours centers on how the Internet is helping communities create new digital content in their native languages. Whether through blogs, digital video, social media, or audio podcasts, we are seeing inspiring work by people committed towards preserving and revitalizing their native languages. Starting with an activity last year in Mexico <http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/11/09/a-network-of-indigenous-language-d…> we brought together indigenous language “digital activists” to share their experiences and teach and learn from one another. Here, we partnered with our friends from Wikimedia Mexico to help organize the sessions around creating new or translating existing content into Wikipedia in native languages. We felt that Wikimedia shares our mission of supporting communities to be able to share their knowledge online in their own languages. Now, we are continuing this process with a workshop in Bogotá <http://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/05/18/a-gathering-to-connect-indigenous-…> in a couple of weeks. Again, we are partnering with both Wikimedia Colombia and Wikimedia Venezuela to showcase the possibilities of creating versions of Wikipedia in native languages and building a more mutually supportive network. We are eager to explore how Rising Voices can help support the ongoing work of communities around the world, but especially throughout Latin America, that are interested in contributing or creating their own versions of this important resource. Our partnerships with your communities have been incredibly rewarding. Looking forward to seeing how we can continue to work together. Thanks, Eddie Avila @barrioflores @risingvoices

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Re: [Languages] Languages Digest, Vol 12, Issue 2
by eddie avila 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

Yes, we have one of the active editors from Wikipedia in Wayuunaiki, Leonardi Fernández, who will be participating in the event. He’ll be arriving from Venezuela, but since languages know no boundaries, we thought it was important for him to join us. > On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:27 PM, languages-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > > Send Languages mailing list submissions to > languages(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/languages > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > languages-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > languages-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Languages digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Indigenous Language Digital Activism (eddie avila) > 2. Re: Indigenous Language Digital Activism (Milos Rancic) > 3. Re: Indigenous Language Digital Activism (Milos Rancic) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:04:36 -0400 > From: eddie avila <eduardo13(a)gmail.com> > To: languages(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Languages] Indigenous Language Digital Activism > Message-ID: <261B0DE9-62E9-4F0E-861A-83C62028FC0A(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello all - > > I’m new here, but really interested in the topic. My name is Eddie Avila and I’m the Director of Rising Voices, an initiative of Global Voices <http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/>. We work to support new, diverse, and underrepresented voices as they use participatory digital media to tell their own stories on their own terms. > > A special interest of ours centers on how the Internet is helping communities create new digital content in their native languages. Whether through blogs, digital video, social media, or audio podcasts, we are seeing inspiring work by people committed towards preserving and revitalizing their native languages. > > Starting with an activity last year in Mexico <http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/11/09/a-network-of-indigenous-language-d…> we brought together indigenous language “digital activists” to share their experiences and teach and learn from one another. > > Here, we partnered with our friends from Wikimedia Mexico to help organize the sessions around creating new or translating existing content into Wikipedia in native languages. We felt that Wikimedia shares our mission of supporting communities to be able to share their knowledge online in their own languages. > > Now, we are continuing this process with a workshop in Bogotá <http://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/05/18/a-gathering-to-connect-indigenous-…> in a couple of weeks. Again, we are partnering with both Wikimedia Colombia and Wikimedia Venezuela to showcase the possibilities of creating versions of Wikipedia in native languages and building a more mutually supportive network. > > We are eager to explore how Rising Voices can help support the ongoing work of communities around the world, but especially throughout Latin America, that are interested in contributing or creating their own versions of this important resource. Our partnerships with your communities have been incredibly rewarding. > > Looking forward to seeing how we can continue to work together. > > Thanks, > > Eddie Avila > @barrioflores @risingvoices > > >

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Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Priority languages
by JP Béland 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

Forwarded to the languages list. JP ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> Date: 2015-05-27 15:04 GMT-06:00 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Priority languages To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Below is the list of the languages sorted by the number of L2 speakers (more than one million of them). L2 speakers appear in two occasions: * First and important to us is about languages used for wider communication. For example, French is L2 among educated people of West Africa. * The second type is related to the native languages in not so good position (either dying or reviving). For example, English is L1 language of the most of Native Americans, as well as Russian is L1 language of the most of ethnicities of former Soviet Union, while their own languages are L2 ones. (They are important in other cases, but not for this purpose.) I omitted English (there is no sense, as we are communicating in English and English is default for all the localization) and few spoken languages (our content is [mostly] written). I also removed some languages which belong to the second category (Irish Gaelic and Scots, for example), but it could be the case that some of the languages from the list belong to that category, as well (though I am pretty sure they don't). There are languages inside of this list with well developed Wikimedia projects and without particular need to promote work on Wikimedia projects among them: French, Spanish and German are the examples. There is no Russian inside of the list, as it's usually L1 language, as mentioned above, but it belongs to the category of the languages with well developed Wikimedia projects. There are also languages spoken in countries with low level of internet access and issues much more important than writing an encyclopedia, like Congo Swahili is. Those are the areas not yet ready even for the projects like OLPC is and we don't have a lot to do there. But there are a number of languages in between with active chapter(s) or user group(s) inside of relevant countries. Those languages should be the priority in promotion collaboration. They are: Arabic (Arabic user groups), Indonesian (WM ID), Hindi (WM IN), Urdu (Pakistani user group), Thai (Thailand UG), Bengali (WM BD), Zulu (WM ZA), Hausa (West African user groups), Xhosa (WM ZA), Afrikaans (WM ZA), Kannada (WM IN), Telugu (WM IN), Tsonga (WM ZA), Malay (WM ID and Malaysian Wikimedians), Marathi (WM IN). The priorities for those languages should include (but likely not limited to): * Translation of MediaWiki messages should be 100%. * Those languages should be priorities for every document which should be translated. For example, ongoing Board elections; but also various Meta pages. * We should have the pool of literate people in those languages for various purposes, not just for translation. For example, if we want to create projects in languages of Pakistan, we should have a number of literate Urdu speakers, willing to help newcomers speaking Urdu as their L2 language. Will be back with other languages-related data :) LanguageCodeL1 speakersL2 speakersStandard Arabicarb206,000,000246,000,000Mandarin Chinesecmn847,808,270178,000,000Indonesianind23,200,480140,000,000Hindihin 260,333,620120,000,000Spanishspa398,931,84096,990,000Urduurd64,035,800 94,000,000Frenchfra75,916,15087,000,000Thaitha20,396,93040,000,000Bengaliben 189,261,20019,200,000Zuluzul11,969,10015,700,000Hausahau25,109,00015,000,000 Xhosaxho8,177,30011,000,000Afrikaansafr7,096,81010,300,000Bamanankanbam 4,072,04010,000,000Burmesemya32,035,30010,000,000Congo Swahiliswc1,000 9,100,000Northern Sothonso4,631,0009,100,000Kannadakan37,739,0409,000,000 Germandeu78,093,9808,000,000Tamiltam68,776,4608,000,000Juladyu2,550,000 7,000,000Lingalalin2,141,3007,000,000Koongokng5,016,5005,000,000Telugutel 74,049,0005,000,000Ibibioibb1,500,0004,500,000Tok Pisintpi122,0004,000,000 Kriokri495,6004,000,000Amharicamh21,811,6004,000,000Bangalabxg~0 3,500,000Tsongatso4,009,0003,400,000Malayzlm15,848,5003,000,000Marathimar 71,780,6603,000,000Sinhalasin15,613,9802,000,000Efikefi405,2602,000,000Duala dua87,7002,000,000Yorubayor19,380,8002,000,000Shonasna10,741,7001,800,000 Vendaven1,294,0001,700,000Sangosag404,0001,600,000Manado Malayxmm850,000 1,500,000Sylhetisyl10,300,0001,500,000Ambonese Malayabs245,0201,400,000 Ndebelenbl1,090,0001,400,000Rakhinerki1,000,0001,020,000Gandalug4,130,000 1,000,000Akanaka8,314,6001,000,000Khmerkhm14,224,5001,000,000 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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translation tool for small wikis
by Ivo Kruusamägi 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Hi! I'd like to introduce a tool named Minority Translate (MT): http://translate.keeleleek.ee/wiki/Main_Page It's designed for a quick content creation via rapid translation of big number of articles. Therefor it should be rather valuable for small wikis as it will help to speed up the creation of the basic structure of wiki. It's a CAT tool, that works with every language including the ones in Incubator. That means it will help to speed up the process and it's excellent for automation of translation for repetitive parts of the text, but it isn't a magic toy, that will do the translation on itself (machine translation for small languages is still much in the realms of sci-fi). Nevertheless, the tool interacts with a linguistic corpus, where the translation data is gathered. With this we try to form a language resource for descriptive studies and technological applications. This is already something that may one day prove helpful for creating a fully automatic translation for languages in question. This tool is still in beta phase. More testing = faster the progress. So you can help! ---- Using/ testing this tool: 1) make sure that you have the newest java installed ( https://www.java.com/en/download/) [not necessary for Linux users] 2) download the program (http://translate.keeleleek.ee/download/) 3) start the program and select your preferences 4) Add stuff for translation ("Articles" --> "Add..."). Example: select "Add Article List", take "English" as from-language and start typing in "100 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_great_Estonians_of_the_20th_century> great Estonians of the 20th century <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_great_Estonians_of_the_20th_century>". After pressing "Ok" it would load in all of the articles in that list from English Wikipedia that exist there. 5) Start translating. 6) When an article has been translated, then press "upload" (log-in required; program will upload articles under your own account and automatically link it to Wikidata) 7) Keep on going. + Please provide feedback on what you liked or didn't liked. If something doesn't work, then I'd need to know that to fix it. If you think something should be added to make the tool better, then I'm all ears (there's even a long list on thing to do: user feedback will help to decide on what should be done first). With regards Ivo Kruusamägi

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Want to add new language to wikipedia
by Tanzeel Khan 25 Jan '15

25 Jan '15

HI, I am a new contributor to Wikipedia and I want to localize the Wikipedia project to Kashmiri Language. There is already someone who has started localizing ( https://ks.wikipedia.org/wiki/) but he/she isn't active for a long time. Please tell me how can I find the admin and incase he/she didn't respond, to whom I should contact to get the rights to manage and localize the project. Regards, Tanzeel Khan

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Re: [Languages] Missing locales (lrc, hrx)
by Gerard Meijssen 13 Jun '14

13 Jun '14

Hoi, For your information. When a language gets to the stage where it is promoted to a full Wikipedia, the articles written in the Incubator will be verified by a linguist who knows that language. The question whether Wiki stuff is significant as a reference is not relevant. What is relevant is that an expert opinion is sought to verify that the language used is indeed the language in use. It would not be a problem to ask the expert to look at the data provided to the CLDR. Thanks, GerardM On 13 June 2014 22:42, Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela(a)cs.tut.fi> wrote: > 2014-06-13 22:57, Philippe Verdy wrote: > > New localized Wikimedia projects have been approved for creation after >> their test in Wikimedia Incubator: >> > > Wiki* things as such are comparable to drawings on public toilet walls, > except that such drawings may carry the author’s name or signature. > > My point is that Wiki* stuff as such is not significant as a reference. If > reliable references are cited on a Wiki* page, it is better to cite those > references directly. > > Please remember that anyone can write anything at Wiki* and often will. > > Yucca > > > > _______________________________________________ > CLDR-Users mailing list > CLDR-Users(a)unicode.org > http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/cldr-users >

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Fwd: Languages Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4
by alain.martinoli＠bata.com 27 May '14

27 May '14

Hey GERARD, Just to tell, BING facebook,is not lisible, impossible to reed and to andestend,THAILAND-LAOS- BURMA!!!and ofter wich nomber,wie kan not correspond wich paepel from dies contrys. Thanks to see. Alain Martinoli -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Languages Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 13:15:34 +0000 From: languages-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org To: languages(a)lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: languages(a)lists.wikimedia.org Send Languages mailing list submissions to languages(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/languages or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to languages-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at languages-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Languages digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Requested languages and Wikidata (Oliver Stegen) 2. Re: Requested languages and Wikidata (JP Béland) 3. Re: Requested languages and Wikidata (Gerard Meijssen) 4. Re: Requested languages and Wikidata (Enock Seth Nyamador) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 15:03:16 +0300 From: Oliver Stegen <info(a)oliverstegen.net> To: Languages discussion and Wikimedia Indigenous Languages <languages(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Languages] Requested languages and Wikidata Message-ID: <537F3904.3060303(a)oliverstegen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Thanks for the link to the spreadsheet. What's about those languages which are marked eligible but don't have a code, as appears to be the case with Laki, Tausug or Yangben (among a number of others)? I thought only languages with a valid ISO 639-3 code could be eligible. Cheers, Oliver On 23-May-14 12:27 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The language policy has it that any eligible language may be enabled > for Wikidata. Several of the languages in the Incubator are functional > in Wikidata already others are not. > > This list shows all the requested languages and it shows an indicator > when the language can be used on Wikidata (only for eligible languages). > > Please have a look and let me know when you have any comments. The > idea is that we will ask in a week for languages that are eligible to > be enabled. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/171gBmi4nCeVHkTt6xPWZsmUg9mkhlpZ-1zW… > > > _______________________________________________ > Languages mailing list > Languages(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/languages

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Requested languages and Wikidata
by Gerard Meijssen 23 May '14

23 May '14

Hoi, The language policy has it that any eligible language may be enabled for Wikidata. Several of the languages in the Incubator are functional in Wikidata already others are not. This list shows all the requested languages and it shows an indicator when the language can be used on Wikidata (only for eligible languages). Please have a look and let me know when you have any comments. The idea is that we will ask in a week for languages that are eligible to be enabled. Thanks, GerardM https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/171gBmi4nCeVHkTt6xPWZsmUg9mkhlpZ-1zW…

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Cape Verdian
by Gerard Meijssen 09 May '14

09 May '14

Hoi, I am at the hackathon in Zurich, Waldir who is from the Cape Verde, asked if he can have Wikidata enabled for his mother tongue, Cape Verdian, kea.. Given that it has an ISO-630-3 and he is a native speaker, it should be no problem to make it eligible and allow editing in Wikidata. Thanks, Gerard

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Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] endangered languages project
by MF-Warburg 23 May '13

23 May '13

FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com> Date: 2013/5/23 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] endangered languages project To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Perhaps of interest to many Wikimedians: the Endangered Languages project recently launched a new layout, making it easier to find and submit information on languages that are in the "catalog of endangered languages" that they are building. Worth a look. http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/ -- phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers <at> gmail.com * _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

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