Good day "languages" community,
I use this opportunity to announce you that we have recently published a
toolbox titled "Indigenous Languages and Knowledge on Wikimedia Projects
Toolbox" on Meta. You can read it there
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Languages_and_Knowledge_on_Wikim….
It is currently available in English and French. We are actively looking
for translators, especially in Spanish.
This toolbox is the result of a partnership during the "Atikamekw
Knowledge, Culture and Language in Wikimedia Project" that saw the creation
of the Wikipetcia Atikamekw Nehiromowin, officially launched last June,
where experienced Wikimedians from Wikimedia Canada partnered with local
indigenous peoples from the Atikamekw communities as well as researchers to
document the project. Those researchers are the authors of this toolbox,
but nothing could have been possible without the great participation from
Atikamekw contributors. You can learn more about the Atikamekw Project
there:
https://ca.wikimedia.org/wiki/Atikamekw_knowledge,_culture_and_language_in_….
You can see the Wikipetcia Atikamekw Nehiromowin there:
https://atj.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otitikowin.
The second thing I wanted to tell you is the official recognition of a new
user group by the Wikimedia Affiliates Committee: the Wikimedians of North
American Indigenous Languages User Group. You can see the user group's page
on meta there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_North_American_Indigenous_La…
.
The mission of the user group is to support the creation and development of
Wikimedia projects and other language-related free initiatives in
indigenous languages of North America by creating a network of peer to peer
collaboration among the North America indigenous peoples on Wikimedia
projects, providing help and technical support from experienced
Wikimedians, and developing education material about creating new Wikimedia
projects in the indigenous and smaller languages' context
Anybody interested in any of those topics are invited to contact me.
Thank you all,
Jean-Philippe Béland
Vice President, Wikimedia Canada
Coordinator, Wikimedians of North American Indigenous Languages User Group
I had proposed to create a project called WikiLang to teach languages on a
Wikimedia platform, but it didn't attract enough attention so I moved the
content to the Wikiversity and that's what you see there with the Atikamekw
language.
JP
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 11:26 AM mathieu stumpf guntz <
psychoslave(a)culture-libre.org> wrote:
> This is a great news, thank you Kirill, and all member of this group for
> their work of unvaluable importance regarding language diversity.
>
> Are they any plane to collect traditional tales and songs in addition to
> Lingua Libre sessions?
>
> By the way, I see we have Atikamekw
> <https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Atikamekw_language> courses on
> Wikiversity, altough it seems more like a stub. I think it would be
> interesting to have an evaluation matrix of languages courses we have in
> Wikimedia projects, and it might be a good idea to coordinate efforts
> around language courses. Actually I think it could be an interesting
> path to both attract new contributors and provide people opportunity to
> have meaningful practical use of what they learn, if each lesson could
> be matched with some text to translate extracted from some of our Wiki
> projects. What is your opinion about that?
>
> Cheers
>
> Le 13/02/2018 à 16:45, Kirill Lokshin a écrit :
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
> > the Wikimedians of North American Indigenous Languages User Group [1] as
> a
> > Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to support the creation and
> > development of Wikimedia projects and other language-related free
> knowledge
> > initiatives in the indigenous languages of North America.
> >
> > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kirill Lokshin
> > Chair, Affiliations Committee
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_North_American_Indigenous_La…
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Фархад , please send the information on the Ingush language institute—especially the specific contact information you have—to Amir Aharoni (amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il), copying me. I want to see that project approved. Thanks.
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As far as I can tell, all activity requirements and translation requirements have been met. Do you have a language expert available for test verification? Ideally, this should be someone who really hasn't been involved in the test. If you don't have someone who meets that description, do you have someone who has academic/linguistic credentials that are really unquestioned, even if that person has been involved in the test?
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I tried finding one several times and got no useful replies. I'll be happy
to move this forward if anybody can help.
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http://aharoni.wordpress.com
“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2017-11-06 18:58 GMT+02:00 Steven White <Koala19890(a)hotmail.com>:
> As far as I can tell, all activity requirements and translation
> requirements have been met. Do you have a language expert available for
> test verification? Ideally, this should be someone who really hasn't been
> involved in the test. If you don't have someone who meets that description,
> do you have someone who has academic/linguistic credentials that are really
> unquestioned, even if that person has been involved in the test?
>
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> Steven White
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Tried Johanna Nichols? Alan R. King
Email: alanrking(a)yahoo.com
Personal website alanrking.info
Nawat and Lenca language resources and indigenous language recovery: http://tushik.org/
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I tried finding one several times and got no useful replies. I'll be happy to move this forward if anybody can help.
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2017-11-06 18:58 GMT+02:00 Steven White <Koala19890(a)hotmail.com>:
As far as I can tell, all activity requirements and translation requirements have been met. Do you have a language expert available for test verification? Ideally, this should be someone who really hasn't been involved in the test. If you don't have someone who meets that description, do you have someone who has academic/linguistic credentials that are really unquestioned, even if that person has been involved in the test?
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As far as I can tell, all activity requirements and translation requirements have been met. Do you have a language expert available for test verification? Ideally, this should be someone who really hasn't been involved in the test. If you don't have someone who meets that description, do you have someone who has academic/linguistic credentials that are really unquestioned, even if that person has been involved in the test?
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Dear Oliver,
Thank you for your step-by-step guidance & links, which I communicated to respective community.
I recommended Ingush guys to concentrate on the missing core translations, then email LangCom a list with contact details of a few respected Ingush language or cultural centers.
With kind regards on behalf of
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedias_in_the_languages_of_Russia
farhad
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30.10.2017, 22:03, "Oliver Stegen" <oliver_stegen(a)sil.org>:
> Dear Farhad,
>
> we do not doubt that Ingush is a language worthy of a wikipedia; according to our guidelines, it is eligible.
> However, as you can see on the incubator page you cited [1], there are localization requirements [2] and community activity requirements [3]. So, this is not a matter of LangCom's indecision. If I interpret the linked requirement checks correctly, the activity requirement is fulfilled but there are still untranslated messages. Also, as mentioned on the request page [4], "Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval, will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto." The video link which you provide cannot substitute the verification by a reliable neutral source (i.e. we need to find someone who is not linked to your wikipedia project and not suggested by you!). If Amir is aware of the situation, he may want to suggest a scholar with verification capability credentials. I'm sorry to hear about your impatience.
>
> Best wishes,
> Oliver Stegen
>
> [1] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/inh
> [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=inh
> [3] https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/inh&wik…
> [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ingush
>
> On 30-Oct-17 13:57, Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin wrote:
>> Dear colleagues, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A66XM3wFXe8 is a Russian-language video about Ingush WP broadcast @ Republic of Ingushetia's Regional TV in Sept.2016 With about 500 000 speakers & motivated contributors onwiki, colleagues start showing impatience over Language Committees' indecision about letting them out of the Incubator ;) https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/inh Pavel confirmed that both Amir and himself are aware of the situation. The request page is @ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ingush Regards, farhad -- Farkhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин http://sikzn.ru/ Тел.+79274158066 / skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan _______________________________________________ Languages mailing list Languages(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/languages --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com
We're about ready to deploy initial support for LanguageConverter to
Parsoid and Visual Editor (see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43716 and
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49411 for background).
A naming issue has come up. In
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_systems/Syntax there are two
categories of rules: "bidirectional" and "unidirectional".
First, before I ask more: if you are a user of LanguageConverter on your
home wiki, did you know that there was more than one type of rule? And if
so, do you call them "bidirectional"/"unidirectional" or something else?
These names appear in the HTML DOM emitted by Parsoid (see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Specs/HTML/1.5.0#Language_conversion_blocks).
There was concern that "bidir" as a field name would be confusing; in
particular that people would confuse this with RTL/LTR issues or the
Unicode "bidi" algorithm; neither of which are related at all.
As a user of LanguageConverter, do you find this naming confusing? If
Visual Editor described these types of rules with a different name (say,
"symmetric"/"asymmetric") would that be a help or harm or neither?
The history of the "bidirectional" name in the PHP code appears to date
back to 2008 as far as I can tell (
https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/69dbeb97f15b65dd5773852d76c3b…
) but they haven't been strongly exposed in the UI AFAIK. Perhaps they are
present in the UI for the noteTA gadget (
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-noteTA.js )?
At any rate, I'm be interested in any thoughts or comments from folks who
use LanguageConverter regularly.
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Please disseminate to interested colleagues as appropriate.
Last call: registration is closing for the Celtic Knot: Wikipedia Language Conference this week.
The Celtic Knot: Wikipedia Language Conference<https://media.ed.ac.uk/media/1_nr4uufq9>– This full day conference on 6 July is for colleagues interested in how technology can support language communities. Guest speakers from all across Europe will be joining us in Edinburgh to showcase and discuss a range of exciting open education, open data and open knowledge initiatives. Registration for this event closes 27th June so don’t delay in booking your place<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2017>.
New satellite event: Introduction to Wikidata and the Wikidata Query Service<https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/introduction-to-wikidata-and-wikidata-query-…> – this event is now scheduled 11am to 1pm on Tuesday 4 July presented by Léa Lacroix (Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata, Wikimedia Deutschland). Léa will also be joining us at the Celtic Knot as part of the Wikidata workshop on 6 July too. Just one of the many great speakers<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2017#Speakers> and presentations<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2017/Programme> at the Celtic Knot discussing community engagement and how to make Celtic and Indigenous languages a shared hub of online knowledge. Includes presentations from Catalan Wikipedia, Basque Wikipedia, Northern Sami Wikipedia, Welsh Wikipedia, Scots Gaelic Wikipedia, Greek Wikipedia and more.
Navino Evans from Histropedia will also be joining us for Wikidata I/O: a showcase event at the Repository Fringe 2017<http://www.repositoryfringe.org/> conference in August. Three workshops will include: (1) how to add data in bulk (2) the wide variety of ways the data can be consumed, queried and visualised and (3) how to build SPARQL queries. 4th August 2017<http://rfringe17.blogs.edina.ac.uk/registration/>
Very best regards,
Ewan McAndrew
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Dear colleagues,
How can technology support language communities?
Join us at the Celtic Knot: Wikipedia Language conference<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2017> taking place Thursday 6 July 2017 at the University of Edinburgh Business School to find out. Booking closes 27 June so don’t delay!
The main objective for Celtic Knot 2017 is the coming together of those working to support Celtic and Indigenous Languages in the same room at same time; strengthening the bonds into a 'knot' and leading into action. We welcome diverse attendees ranging from Wikimedians, linguists, educators, researchers, information professionals, media professionals, translators, learning technologists and more coming together to share good practice and find fruitful new collaborations to support language communities as a result of the event.
New satellite event: Introduction to Wikidata and the Wikidata Query Service<https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/introduction-to-wikidata-and-wikidata-query-…> – this event is now scheduled 11am to 1pm on Tuesday 4 July presented by Léa Lacroix (Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata, Wikimedia Deutschland). Léa will also be joining us at the Celtic Knot as part of the Wikidata workshop on 6 July too. Just one of the many great speakers<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2017#Speakers> and presentations<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2017/Programme> covering Catalan Wikipedia, Welsh Wikipedia, Scots Gaelic Wikipedia, Basque Wikipedia, Northern Sami Wikipedia and more at the Celtic Knot:
Keynote speakers
* Professor Antonella Sorace<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2017#Keynotes> - Professor of Developmental Linguistics at the University of Edinburgh<http://www.lel.ed.ac.uk/%7Eantonell/> and founding director of Bilingualism Matters<http://www.bilingualism-matters.org.uk/> will be speaking on ‘Bilingualism in minority languages: a resource and an opportunity’.
* Jason Evans<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2017#Keynotes> - Wikimedian in Residence at the National Library of Wales<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Expert_outreach/Wikipedian_in_Residence_at_th…> will discuss his strategy for working with Wikimedia UK and the Welsh Government to develop the Welsh Wicipedia using a combination of community engagement, data manipulation and the implementation of Open Access policies.
Confirmed speakers also include:
* Susan Ross – Gaelic Wikipedian in Residence<https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2017/01/wikimedia-uk-and-national-library-of-…> at the National Library of Scotland.<http://www.nls.uk/news/archive/2017/01/gaelic-wikipedian-begins>
* Dr. Sharon Arbuthnot<http://pure.qub.ac.uk/portal/en/persons/sharon-arbuthnot%28519b4b40-d075-4b…> - Research Fellow, Queen's University, Belfast. Presenting on the AHRC-funded eDIL project<http://www.dil.ie/> (Irish Language dictionary) on Wednesday 5th July.
* Gareth Morlais – the Welsh Language Unit, Welsh Government. Gareth will speak about how mapping how much importance major companies (Google, Twitter, Apple) attach to creative activity on Wikipedia led to the Welsh Government helping to fund two Welsh-language Wikipedia initiatives.
* Delyth Prys – Head of the Language Technologies Unit, Bangor University, will speak on Welsh/Celtic speech technology and why text-to-speech and speech recognition are becoming increasingly important in our digital world.
* Àlex Hinojo<http://www.alexhinojo.cat/en/bio/> – Executive Director, Amical Wikimedia<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Amical_Wikimedia> on the Catalan language project.
* Iñaki Lopez de Luzuriaga – Developing the Basque Wikipedia: From corpus expansion to outreach.
* Astrid Carlsen – Executive Director, Wikimedia Norge speaking on Norwegian Bokmål, Norwegian Nynorsk and building a project to revitalize the Northern Sami Wikipedia.
* Robin Owain – Wales Manager, Wikimedia UK, speaking on recent developments supporting the Welsh language community.
* Mina Theofilatou presenting on ‘The Kefalonian Dialect in Wiktionary and how Wikitherapy addresses social equality in open-source language projects’.
* Duncan Brown - Llên Natur<http://www.llennatur.com/Drupal7/llennatur/>, presenting on ‘Y BYWIADUR: the dictionary of life’.
* Rémy Gerbet - Wikimedia France; presenting on the Lingua Libre project<https://www.lingualibre.fr/> for massive open audio recording.
* Käbi Suvi - Wikimedia Estonia on the ‘Miljon+’ project as part of Estonia’s 100th anniversary.
* Ilario Valdelli - Wikimedia Switzerland, speaking on the Digital Library in Romansch and the new initiatives to map the archeological sites connected with Celtic culture in the Alps.
* Wikipedia’s new Content Translation tool and how it has been successfully employed in Higher Education to share knowledge between different language Wikipedias and give students meaningful published practice – Ewan McAndrew, Wikimedian in Residence.
It promises to be a great event – including a panel on the Politics of Language Online, excellent papers, workshops and discussion spaces. Please feel free to forward this event to interested colleagues in your network.
If you would like to learn more then please contact me direct at ewan.mcandrew(a)ed.ac.uk<mailto:ewan.mcandrew@ed.ac.uk>.
Very best regards,
Ewan
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