This is great news, and congratulations.
I look forward to mentioning this to linguists of the Americas, so will add
it to our newsletter. Would you wish to add contact information for
linguistic inquiries, were there to be any?
KS Rolph
Editor - Society for the Study of the Indigenous Languages of the Americas
Contributing Faculty - The National Hispanic University
Some news.
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Date : 16 déc. 2012 21:05
Objet : [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia in the classroom" in Guarani language
À : "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
This week, Wikimedia Argentina published the first edition of "Vikipetã
mbo'eha kotýpe" [1], "Wikipedia in the classroom" in Guarani, an indigenous
language spoken in Northern Argentina, Paraguay and Bolivia. It is the
first Wikipedia related publication made in an American indigenous language.
The goal of “Wikipedia in the classroom”, made originally in Spanish, is to
help teachers to understand what is Wikipedia, how it works and how they
can use it in an useful way. Most students already use Wikipedia so it is
really important that teachers know what to do.
“Wikipedia in the classroom” is an initiative launched in 2010 by Wikimedia
Argentina with the support of different institutions, including the
Education portal of the Argentine government, educ.ar. They released an
special website about the project.[2] Wikimedia Argentina will print 500
booklets of the Guarani edition to be distributed in schools and other
educational institutions, and we expect to publish new editions in other
indigenous languages in 2013.
Kind regards,
Osmar Valdebenito G.
Director Ejecutivo
A. C. Wikimedia Argentina
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vikipet%C3%A3_mbo%27eha_kot%C3%BDpe…
[2] http://wikipediaenelaula.educ.ar/
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Someone at Wikimedia Chile (Osmar, I guess) made a formal request some years ago to change the ISO code, but it was ignored and eventually they replied saying "no".
Changing an ISO language code is complex because it is costly but hey, using something like "mpx" could be a solution acceptable for the Mapuche people. Also, don't we have reserved codes starting with x ?
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From: "M. Williamson" <node.ue(a)gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:35:15
To: <jewbask(a)wikimedia.org.ve>
Subject: Re: [Langcom-observers] [Langcom-l] Change the code arn of mapudungun wikimedia
Some codes that are currently unused:
mun
mac
I'm sure there are others, just some ideas to try. Did anyone submit a
request to the ISO authority? There is no reason an additional code cannot
be added, preserving backwards compatibility, due to the fact that "arn" is
a highly offensive language code.
2012/12/2 Carlos Manuel Colina <jewbask(a)wikimedia.org.ve>
> Yes but I remember we discussed some time ago the possibility of using an
> _unused_ code for this particular case, if we received enough support from
> the Mapuche community.
>
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> Subject: Re: [Langcom-l] Change the code arn of mapudungun wikimedia
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> On 2 Dec 2012, at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The reasons why the code arn will remain in use in the standard are
> published.
>
> Moreover, "map" and "mpg" are already in use.
>
> http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=map
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> http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=mpg
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Dear language colleagues,
Ethnologue is the most comprehensive language classification entity in the
world, and it is systematic and subject to intense peer review and inputs.
Because one of the more established terms for Mapudungan is 'Araucano' this
is where the 'arn' comes from. Moreover, Mapudungan (a.k.a. Araucano) is
part of the larger, Araucanian language family. As is often the case,
Mapudungan is related to: Moluche (and/or Ngoluche and Manzanero),
Picunche, and Pehuenche, all within Araucanian.
I do not, for the purposes of efficacy, believe that Wikipedia should
re-invent language codes, already in use, through over a century of
application, developed by Ethnologue. Ethnologue practices open source
principles, providing the world with this classification system (though it
may be imperfect), as well as all their publications and publications known
to them, so the world may retrieve them.
Karen Sue Rolph, Ph.D.
Editor - Society for the Study of the Indigenous Languages of the Americas
==
Estimados colegas de idiomas,
Ethnologue es la entidad por clasificación de las idiomas más amplia en el
mundo, y es sistemático y está sujeto a revisiónes intensas por
colegas . Porque
uno de los términos más establecidos para el nombre, Mapudungan, es "
Araucano" esto es de donde el "arn" viene. Por otra parte, Mapudungan (alias
Araucano) forma parte de la más grande, familia lingüística araucana, o en
Ingles dicemos, Araucanian. Mapudungan está relacionado con: Moluche (y / o
Ngoluche y Manzanero), Picunche, y Pehuenche, todo dentro de familia
araucana.
No, a los efectos de eficacia, creo que la Wikipedia debe reinventar los
códigos de lenguajes, que ya están en uso, a través de más de un siglo de
aplicación, desarrollada por Ethnologue. Ethnologue practica los principios de
códigos abiertos, proporcionando el mundo con este sistema de clasificación
(aunque sea imperfecto), así como todas sus publicaciones y
publicacionesde otros conocidas
por ellos, para que el mundo pueda recuperarlos.
Karen Sue Rolph, Ph.D.
Editor - Sociedad para el Estudio de las Lenguas Indígenas de las Américas
==
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 1:03 PM, <languages-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote:
> Also, don't we have reserved codes starting with x ?
