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Editor engagement experiments deploy: a new extension and updates
by Steven Walling 01 Feb '13

01 Feb '13

[For new folks to this list: we regularly make announcements about the weekly software deployments by features teams, especially the editor engagement group.] First up, Matt Flaschen deployed a new extension which I'm very excited about: Guided Tour. There will be a blog post tomorrow, but for an idea of what it's all about, see the project page at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Guided_tours or visit https://en.wikipedia.org?tour=test to see a meta-tour. (There are some redlinks we're still filling in there). Next updates for Guided Tour are to deploy outside of English Wikipedia - likely French, German, and Dutch first - and enable an automatic tour for all users who accept tasks at Special:GettingStarted. You can see it by visiting one of those articles while logged in, and appending ?tour=gettingstarted. Associated with this change, we updated several other extensions. In particular, we removed the orange tooltip which points new editors to the MoodBar feature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_editor_feedback MoodBar is a great feature, but the tooltip first appeared when you viewed the edit window. We do want to make sure newbies know they can leave feedback via that feature, but we don't want to interrupt people who've clicked edit, especially for the first time. Last but not least: congrats to Matt for deploying a ton of work. Adding a new extension and updating four others is no small feat. -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/

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Editor Engagement Features Plan (E2) - Q3 2013
by Fabrice Florin 01 Feb '13

01 Feb '13

Hi folks, Based on our discussions over the past few weeks, here is a quick overview of our plans for the Editor Engagement Features team (E2) in this quarter (January-March 2013). http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor_Engagement/2013_strategy_planning_(Fea… Our team's overall goal for 2012-2013 is to help reverse Wikipedia's editor decline by building features that can recruit new editors and retain existing editors. To that end, we are working on these key quarterly milestones for January-March 2013: Echo (Notifications): • Expand first beta version on MediaWiki.org, with better features for new editors • Deploy a limited release of Echo on the English Wikipedia by the end of the quarter Flow (Messaging): • Create a design spec and product plan for user-to-user messaging on talk pages • Discuss designs and plans with the community through a variety of channels Article Feedback v5: • Complete and test final features, code refactoring and database cluster • Prepare for deployment on multiple sites, once approved by their communities Our strategy planning page includes roadmaps and timelines for each of these projects, for discussion purposes. Please note that goals beyond this quarter are approximate and subject to change, as our plans get periodically adjusted. Our current plans are also outlined in these slides: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:E2_Planning_-_Q3_2013.pdf Please let us know if you have any questions, comments or suggestions about our plans for the current quarter, which are now well under way. We expect to conduct another planning update next quarter, based on discussions with our teams and communities. All the best, Fabrice _______________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Editor Engagement Wikimedia Foundation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)

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Issues with toolserver
by Dario Taraborelli 30 Jan '13

30 Jan '13

FYI the toolserver's web server is currently giving bad gateway errors and the issue has been confirmed by multiple people, I filed a note to the ts-admins. Dario

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Re: [EE] list spam (fixed, hopefully)
by ENWP Pine 30 Jan '13

30 Jan '13

I was hoping that WMF had received a $2.6 million endowment for EE and was inviting users to be on an advisory committee that gives input on investment and use of the endowment funds. Imagine my disappointment! Anyway, the changes to the list also seem to have had the effect of the EE list disappearing from the public list of lists. I think someone may want to edit the list settings again. Pine

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Invitation: CAN YOU MANAGE THIS FUND? @ Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:30pm - 8:30pm (ee@lists.wikimedia.org)
by info web 30 Jan '13

30 Jan '13

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Krenair for mediawiki
by Terry Chay 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

It's been a month since the accidental veto. :-) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Krenair_added_to…

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Health Article Review Project
by ENWP Pine 25 Jan '13

25 Jan '13

I think this may interest some people here on the EE list. The Health Article Review Project attempts to engage non-Wikipedians who are health professionals in providing feedback about English Wikipedia articles. I'm not sure how this could be linked into things like AFT or other efforts to engage experts in commenting regarding health articles or many other subjects which would benefit from expert attention, but I think this is good food for thought. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HARP Pine

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Article Feedback Request for Comments
by Fabrice Florin 24 Jan '13

24 Jan '13

Hello everyone, In case you haven't already heard, I wanted to let you know that a Request for Comments about our Article Feedback tool was posted this weekend by volunteer editor MZ McBride, who is seeking community input on the future of this tool on the English Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Article_feedback We encourage experienced Wikipedians on this list to contribute to this discussion, if you are so inclined. Some of the issues being discussed go beyond the specifics of Article Feedback, and address broader questions about how to best engage readers and new editors into the growth of our movement. Because of your interest in our editor engagement programs, you are in a unique position to present an informed perspective on the pros and cons of this tool, as part of our overall objectives for increased participation. Note that if you work for the WMF, we recommend that you focus on providing factual information in the comment sections or talk page -- and refrain from voting or posting personal views as a new section, so that we don't interfere with this community deliberation process. If you do participate, be sure to use your staff account and avoid getting into heated discussions, which just state the relevant facts you are aware of, and leave it at that. WMF staff members who have already contributed to this discussion include Oliver Keyes, Erik Moeller and yours truly (posted as a comment after MZ McBride's view). Our comments are longer than we expect other WMF contributions to be, because we wanted to surface all the known facts for the record. But we are now taking more of an observer role, to let others comment on this community discussion without interference from the foundation. For a quick update about Article Feedback, check out this blog post. Note that we are adding a number of new features recommended by the community, such as simpler moderation tools and better filters, which were designed to reduce the editor workload, surface good feedback, and filter our unmoderated or inappropriate comments. For more details, read our requirements for new features under development. We expect to have these new features available for testing in early February, and recommend that the RfC be extended until all participants have had a chance to evaluate these new tools. Much of the current discussion is about known issues with the old software we deployed last summer, and many of these problems have since been addressed by our new tools, at least in part. To be clear, the future of Article Feedback on the English Wikipedia is at stake, and constructive outcomes can only be achieved through a thoughtful and productive conversation with our community. The foundation intends to respect the community's decision and will only deploy this tool under terms to be agreed upon in good faith by a majority of stakeholders. On a more positive note, I am pleased to report that a parallel vote by the French Wikipedia community is showing very favorable results, with 82 in favor of the tool so far, versus 42 against. (A wide contrast with the English Wikipedia, which appears to be about 21 in favor versus 79 against). We are also making good progress with our pilot on the German Wikipedia, where a vote is expected at the end of this quarter. So assuming a positive outcome, we are prepared to release the final version of the tool on these international projects first, if the English Wikipedia is not ready for it yet. This could be the beginning of a wonderful trend, where our software development efforts would no longer be driven primarily from an english-centric perspective, but embrace a more global approach instead. Thanks in advance for any insights you can contribute to this discussion. All the best, Fabrice _______________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager Wikimedia Foundation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)

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Sick
by Luke Welling WMF 24 Jan '13

24 Jan '13

I have a cold/flu and have gone back to bed. Luke

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GettingStarted extension
by Matthew Flaschen 23 Jan '13

23 Jan '13

Does it make sense to move the GettingStarted extension's HTML inside the extension. Right now, the CSS is in the extension (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted…). But the HTML uses MediaWiki:gettingstarted-msg, and the default value of that is 'An administrator on {{SITENAME}} should customize this message by editing [[{{ns:MediaWiki}}:gettingstarted-msg]].'. Basically, the CSS is implicitly depending on HTML outside of the extension, with the default message being a placeholder. This leads to inconsistencies if we're not careful. With Munaf's latest styling (http://jsbin.com/ehizeq/48), it should be possible to have default chrome HTML (everything outside the three columns), with a transclusion to another page. In English Wikipedia's case, that include would be the Copyediting/Spelling & grammar/Add links columns, populated by SuggestBot initially. Does it make sense to put that outer HTML with an include as the default message? Matt Flaschen

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