EE September 2014

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Re: [EE] Adding Thanks to more places
by Jon Robson 22 Sep '14

22 Sep '14

The amount of times I've viewed a photo on Wikipedia and thought wow and wanted to thank the contributor for putting it there for me to see. Also it always seemed strange to me that I couldn't thank someone for creating a page... On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The amount of times I've viewed a photo on Wikipedia and thought wow and > wanted to thank the contributor for putting it there for me to see. > > Also it always seemed strange to me that I couldn't thank someone for > creating a page. > > On 12 Sep 2014 15:50, "Matthew Flaschen" <mflaschen(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> On 09/12/2014 02:28 PM, James Salsman wrote: >>> >>> How many estimated days of developer work is the "major can of worms" of >>> delivering thank notifications only, in a new way, to IPs? As cans of >>> worms go, I'm pretty sure it would not be on the major end of the scale, >>> if an experienced developer actually quantified it. >> >> >> I doubt we would make a whole new backend just for anon recipients of >> Thanks. That leaves only two possibilities: >> >> * Have Echo support anonymous recipients >> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56828). Apparently Wikihow >> has code for this, and there is a WIP patch, but Wikihow doesn't have the >> exact same infrastructure as us. >> * Use an existing backend, probably user talk pages (or maybe Flow user >> talk pages, assuming anon talk pages are eventually converted over to this) >> >> Matt Flaschen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EE mailing list >> EE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee

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OOjs, MobileFrontend and Flow
by Jon Robson 20 Sep '14

20 Sep '14

Shahyar, Juliusz, Trevor, Roan and I met to discuss using oojs inside the mobile and Flow projects. The following 3 patches kicks off moving MobileFrontend's class model towards that of oojs - many thanks for Roan for doing most of the legwork :-): https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155593 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155589 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129336 On the long term we'd look to swap out the Class.js and eventemitter.js files in MobileFrontend for oojs, but this is going to be tricky and require some care, possibly mixing both oojs and MobileFrontend's class code in the repository at the same time. e.g. increasing JavaScript on the short term, but reducing it on the longterm. The MobileFrontend core development team will need to work out how best to manage this transition. Since Flow is very DOM-focused, as opposed to many smaller JavaScript modules with element management per the currently-accepted use of OOjs, it is unclear how we may go about integrating with OOjs fully. However, some potential use cases have been identified as candidates for implementing OOjs on an interim basis, primarily by abstracting some current FlowBoardComponent workflows, such as those which handle (re-)rendering of existing and new content fetched from the API.

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Flow scrum notes
by Danny Horn 19 Sep '14

19 Sep '14

There's an ugly bug on En.WP today -- there's some broken JS on Topic pages, so the reply field doesn't open properly, and you can't click the buttons. Erik is going to deploy a fix for this as soon as we can. *Erik*: I-3 (change page title to Topic name on Board name) -- has a patch ready to go. Found and fixed a fatal error yesterday Today -- fixing the en.wp bug, then something from the Sprint I column *Shahyar*: G-11 (new modal dialog) -- the version on ee-flow needs a little more work. Clicking outside automatically closes the modal, even if you've typed in the dialog. Fix for this: Disable clicking outside the modal for now. At some point in the near future, we'll drop in OOJS and integrate the events. Also: the modal looks weird with the X and Check in the top corners -- that design is only used for multi-step dialogs. Taking them out for this modal.

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Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming help sessions for drafting Individual Engagement Grant proposals
by Pine W 19 Sep '14

19 Sep '14

Forwarding. Please take this opportunity to ask questions! Pine ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Siko Bouterse" <sbouterse(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Sep 18, 2014 3:30 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming help sessions for drafting Individual Engagement Grant proposals To: <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Hi all, As we announced earlier this month[1], September is the month to apply for an Individual Engagement Grant[2]. The deadline to submit a proposal is September 30. To help you turn your ideas and projects into successful proposals, we’re hosting a few IdeaLab Proposal Clinics in Hangouts and IRC this month.[3] The first one took place on September 16. Newcomers had a chance to talk to current and past grantees, as well as WMF Grantmaking staff, to workshop ideas and strengthen their proposals. If you have an idea you would like to submit, but feel unsure about how to draft or finalize your proposal, join a session! There are three events left before the deadline: * IRC office hours in #wikimedia-office - Sept 23, 1600 UTC (Tuesday) * Hangout - Sept 25, 1700 UTC (Thursday) [4] * Hangout - Sept 28, 1700 UTC (Sunday) [5] Join us next week to discuss your ideas, and bring any questions you have about IEG! Cheers, Siko [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-September/074239.html [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Events#Upcoming_events [4]IdeaLab Clinic II. Join via Hangout: https://plus.google.com/events/cvk8hivoih04ifc6pp3sl0se6s8?hl [5] IdeaLab Clinic III. Join via Hangout: https://plus.google.com/events/c82527nlv8jhkv17j963gs9gp6s?hl -- Siko Bouterse Head of Individual Grants Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. sbouterse(a)wikimedia.org *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. * *Donate <https://donate.wikimedia.org> or click the "edit" button today, and help us make it a reality!* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Flow scrum notes, Thurs Sept 18
by Danny Horn 18 Sep '14

18 Sep '14

*Matthias*: Regression patches -- most of the regressions we found yesterday will be fixed in today's release. Working on search tomorrow -- he'll be talking to Nik and Chad next week. *Shahyar*: Shahyar worked on a regression ticket, Erik finished it up Spent a lot of time arguing with people about whether to merge stuff into core. But at least people showed up to comment. :) So apparently this is the way to get people to comment on your stuff -- just merge it. S points out that probably the best day to do that is Monday, rather than right before the release. We have learned many things. S couldn't get the dialog patch up on eeflow yesterday -- try again today. Watchlist star refactoring -- Shahyar was getting an exception from browser test. Fixed it this morning, it's working again. He needs to rebase it off master. Today -- working on H-8 (add the ability to put hide / delete / suppress functions on history & other non-board pages) *Erik*: Fixed up lots of the regressions -- some Danny identified, and some Erik found along the way. The only one that still needs to go through -- dismissing new topic notifications by going to the board. We still need to work on this some more. Danny will have to do another pass checking everything out at the release, and we'll see what else needs fixing. We've patched up a lot -- there will be some more bugs to squash, but we're getting close. :)

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Flow scrum notes, Wed Sept 17
by Danny Horn 17 Sep '14

17 Sep '14

There were some regressions found today on ee-flow -- we should fix them, and merge the fixes for tomorrow's release if they're not risky. We can propose them today and get +2. *Erik*: Done today: H-99 (Locked and hidden pages should be uncollapsed on the topic pages) H-106 (Wikilinks in subpage boards are incorrect) Submitted WIP patch for Special:Flowify. *Matthias*: X-15 -- Jon had feedback on watchlist stars to make the hack slightly less hacky. We need to get that code reviewed and on eeflow as soon as we can. Now working on search. Back-end stuff is fully functional. Need some configuration. *Shahyar*: Modal -- now in code review! Should write unit tests for modal event handling Today: Look at regressions on ee-flow and merge them for tomorrow's release if possible.

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Update: Standardizing icons across projects
by Tomasz Finc 17 Sep '14

17 Sep '14

Several front end engineers, designers, and others got together again to update on their progress to standardize icons across projects today. This was a follow to the previous conversation on 8/27 [1]. Big take aways: * Monte iterating and almost completing his SVG->Font python scripts * Trevor & Bartosz finalizing an npm module for customizing SVG generation * Jon needing additional support from Sam to move forward on mw ui icon markup Notes from the discussion can be found on etherpad [2] Follow up items: * Finish up SVG2FONT2SVG script (hopefully done in a week) (Monte) ** Create manifest for padding and other small options (Trevor) * Review Trevor's SVG/PNG generation (Everyone present once its out) * Followup with Sam for standard icon html mark-up (Matt) * Schedule team discussion follow up (Tomasz) Please update as necessary if you attended and I've forgotten or misrepresented anything. thanks all --tomasz [1] - https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-August/007922.html [2] - http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/IconStandardization

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Flow scrum notes, Tues Sept 16
by Danny Horn 16 Sep '14

16 Sep '14

Sprint H ends tomorrow. *Matthias*: Code review today, merged a lot of patches. Found a problem with Shahyar's modal. We talked about how to handle the watch star in Vector and Monobook. The current patch is a hack, and may cause problems down the line, but we need to have the tooltip that explains what subscribing to a board means. We're almost certain to change something about this in the near-ish future, so this won't be dropped and forgotten. The new watch star patch should fix the problems with the star on Monobook (X-7 and X-8). *Shahyar*: Working on fixes for the Hide modal, to center it and make it look like a real modal dialog (G-11). This involves H-9: allow external elements to be related to a Flow component. The patches work, but it's breaking some other elements. He'll fix that today. *Erik*: Yesterday, mostly H-5 -- When a topic is locked, take out all reply links. It's in code review. Danny asked him to look at H-99 -- it's a change that Jon worked on and released, to always keep moderated threads uncollapsed on topic pages.

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Adding Thanks to more places
by Steven Walling 12 Sep '14

12 Sep '14

Hi everyone, So I think by now, most of us have experienced the positive impact of the Thanks tool (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Thanks) on our wikis. I'd like to hear thoughts about adding the function to more places. Thanks currently visible on... - Page histories - Diffs I'd like to propose that anywhere that I can undo or rollback an edit, I should be able to thank someone. If that location provides me enough information to revert an edit, surely it provides me enough context to show gratitude as well. With that proposal in mind, some suggestions of new locations includes... - Watchlist - RecentChanges A slightly expanded scope might also include all public logs (move, delete, patrol, etc.). This is requested already at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58485 but may be harder to do. Thoughts? -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/

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Flow scrum notes, Fri Sept 12
by Danny Horn 12 Sep '14

12 Sep '14

*Benny*: Script to delete old notifications is done, needs testing on eeflow or betalabs to make sure we have the cron job to run the job queue. Once that's done, we can release putting unread messages in chronological order. H-2 -- email notifications -- it works, should go in code review. Benny's last day -- S says that he's cleared for takeoff. G-102 -- "no formatting defined for notification" error -- there's a patch so we get more information on this. *Jon*: Sick yesterday. There's a bunch of patches in code review. X-12: Monobook -- Watch star tooltip. S is talking to Shahyar about setting up a brown-bag on "think mobile first", to make sure we know all the guidelines. *Erik*: Yesterday -- swat deploy to release Echo fixes. (Thank you!) Today -- getting into the code review list. Shahyar can't log in... There's a patch for the Hide modal dialog on Monobook, which we were hoping to backport yesterday. S will check with Shahyar to see the status. The remaining issues are for Monobook -- Erik talked to Chris McMahon about running browser tests for a user with Monobook as the skin.

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