Alex,
Indeed. After all, the bylaws clearly state that "All accounts, books, securities and
any other relevant documents of the company must be available for inspection free of
charge by _any_ member upon request".
Oscar,I am also curious about the per diem issue. I inquired from the Treasurer and was
told that there were some "personal dues" and "personal issues" that
need to be resolved. I don't know what that means. I must say that I am very
disappointed by the fact that Wikimedia Kenya volunteers went to the United States without
being given a per diem, especially bearing in mind that there was a Board Majority
Approval requesting the treasurer to issue out a per diem.
No offence to the Board but if you guys are incapacitated and can not execute the
resolutions you make, then it makes us, as members, question your mandate and power.
--Abbas.
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:34:13 +0300
From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials
Point of correction to Hugo
WE are not going to audit the expenses made by us so far,all we want is to evaluate the
financial health of WMKE.if there is any audit,the Board and the Audit committee can do
that.
Speaking of muscle, I am still wondering why the treasure is hesitant to make the Board
approved per diem to Wikimania attendees. IS this another muscle stant?
And this meetup will again seek to find clarity on this issue
Via my Xperia
On Jul 19, 2012 6:52 AM, "Stephen Wanjau" <stevewanjau(a)wikimedia.or.ke>
wrote:
Hello!
I have shared the expenses sheet with the Wikimedia Kenya board and am waiting for their
comments on that and questions if any to me as the treasurer so that the board can in turn
present the same to the chapter. I am waiting for responses from the board and I have
received none as yet. They have a deadline that I set for Friday the 20th of July 2012
after-which I will take the next course of action after assuming they have nothing they
expect me to clarify about the expenditures there in.
Just so you know, I like the muscle of this thread and not the one on Wikiproject Kenya or
Africa for that matter.
regards,
Stephen.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:15 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Abbas,
You are forgetting that the board has not handled any finances or assets. What this should
be is a handover of what so far has been handled by Steve officially to the board.
On the audit committee, we did agree that we will form it and I think this is a good time
to do so.
David.
On Jul 18, 2012 4:19 PM, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
No, I disagree.
The Board can not audit itself -- there will definitely be bias and self-interest. The
Board can (and should) have an audit committee (or an interim committee) that will examine
the financial records of Wikimedia Kenya. This committee will then report back to the
Board with its findings (which can be then made publicly).
Abbas.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:44:01 +0300
From: raidarmax(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials
Abbas,
My point is that the board should meet, diacuss and report to the rest of the team. I
agree we should be accountable but there is a reason why there is a board.
Discussing finances in large groups especially when prompted by a dispute could cause
tension. Lets handle things right.
David.
On Jul 18, 2012 3:33 PM, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
David,
What do you mean by "Chapters should not meet to discuss finances?" How do you
ensure that there's accountability?
Also, I think that everyone who has a company asset should declare it, and that a
requisition form be made ASAP where interested users should fill it in and get approval
(from the Board?). Who has the projectors? Who has the screens? Who has the banners? Who
has the camera?
--Abbas.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:17:58 +0300
From: raidarmax(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials
Oscar,
Chapter should not meet to discuss finances, I do not think this is the appropriate way to
handle this. The board can meet and discuss this issue and i can even join via Skype if it
is proper hours for me.
Meanwhile, I have seen the statement that Steve (or was it Oscar? ) shared, there are some
things that require explanation and I think a good start would be the board point any
questions to Steve in this regard here.
This mailing list is public so no one should think anything is being discussed
underground.
David.
On Jul 18, 2012 3:11 PM, "Limoke Oscar" <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote:
HI Team,
IN the absence of our Chair and in the interest of the Chapter following the recent
financial saga with Wikimedia Spain financials where they lost over 2500USD Chapters
funds, I would like to propose an urgent Chapters meeting to do a quick audit of our
financials in an open way
THE treasurer should get us our Statements of expenditures and accounts as we stand for
half year in order to make plans for a new bank account and to plan for upcoming projects
that need urgent member approvals.
Please Treasure make plans to avail the same.
I PROPOSE at UoN grounds this Saturday?
ps: Please come along with our per diems
Via my Xperia
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