Re: [Wikiversity-l] Management of this mailing list

-- Find me at: personal blog http://IaskQuestions.com http://iaskquestions.com/ gnu/linux user #500092 On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.comwrote: > Can i get access to manage the list? I already manage the Wikiversity > page on Google + and also an admin for the wikimedia Ghana mailing > list, wikimedia-gh@lists.wikimedia.org > > I check my mails very often and can handle it. > > Rex > > On 9/30/12, Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com wrote: > > Harry had this request/game some time ago, where I tried to help him > > not sure why he could not succeed > > > > afaik: Cormac is mod of the mailing list, he should be able to do > something > > about this > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cormaggio > > > > Erkan > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Abd ulRahman Lomax > > abdlomax@yahoo.comwrote: > > > >> The sequence reveals that no moderator is both monitoring this list and > >> willing to respond to the request, and possibly the listserver is not > >> working properly. > >> > >> Yes, the user should be able to handle his own unsubscription and is > >> being > >> obtuse, repeating a message, insistently, to people who can't do > anything > >> about the situation, and perhaps not following instructions that come > >> with > >> every mail, or if he is, he is not requesting help, describing the > >> specific > >> problem encountered, he is merely demanding that someone DO SOMETHING TO > >> FIX THIS! > >> > >> A common reason would be that the user no longer has access to an > account > >> for sending mail, but is still receiving mail to that account. If that > is > >> the case here, then Harry isn't telling anyone what the account is. The > >> complete headers from a list mail to him would show what's happening. > >> (Below, I figure out that this is not the case here. It's commonly a > case > >> with open mailing lists, this list is, however, closed.) > >> > >> STOP and all that does absolutely nothing. The instructions below do say > >> how to unsubscribe. One of Harry's mails seems to be a response to a > mail > >> from wikiversity-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org and it looks like the > >> subject was not created as instructed for unsubscription. > >> > >> If Harry tells us what he has done, and what happened, we will then know > >> more specifically what to do about it. I'm not personally going to file > a > >> complaint with the overall wikimedia.org listserver administration > unless > >> I can verify a problem. And they are quite likely, given the massive > >> subscription lists, to ignore complaints written in all caps that don't > >> provide adequate information. > >> > >> To find out if the listserver is operating, I entered a number of > >> commands > >> through the web interface, which is *public*. I merely need enter the > >> subscribed email address. The page is at > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l > >> > >> On that page, in the "Wikiversity-l" subscribers section, after entering > >> my subscribed email address, I pressed the "unsubscribe or edit options" > >> button. > >> > >> I got a member options page acknowledging my email address as a > >> subscriber, and one of the buttons was unsubscribe. I pressed the > >> unsubscribe button, and, after a few minutes' delay, I received a > >> confirmation mail. If I had responded with no changes to that mail, I > >> presume I'd have been unsubscribed. I'd forgotten my password, which is > >> not > >> needed for unsubscription, so I then pressed the password reminder > button > >> and my password was emailed to me. Using the password, I logged in to > the > >> member options page. There is also an immediate unsubscription option > >> there > >> (since they know it's you because you logged in with the password.) > >> > >> So I did the same, using the Harry address from the mails. I then > pressed > >> an unsubscribe bottom, which, if Harry is a subscriber, would send him a > >> confirmation mail, with instructions that, if followed carefully, will > >> unsubscribe him. On the other hand, I tested this with a ridiculous > >> subscription address. The interface does not reveal if the person is a > >> subscriber or not. > >> > >> If Harry does not receive a mail, he can then strongly infer that he is > >> not, under this email address, subscribed to the list. That, then, means > >> that *nobody* can help him, unless he provides the subscription mailing > >> address. > >> > >> However, it is very likely that Harry is a subscriber, because the list > >> will reject mails from non-subscribers. I just tested that. Harry's > >> mails, > >> from his gmail address, are not being held for moderator approval. (If a > >> moderator has set automatic approval, it would go through, but he'd also > >> be > >> getting the message held for approval message. I've seen a moderator set > >> up > >> automatic bounce approval when the moderation didn't want to surrender > >> control but also didn't have the time to actually manage the list.) > >> > >> Harry, when you are in the middle of an amygdala hijack, you may not be > >> able to respond to instructions clearly. See if you can do whatever you > >> know to do to relax, have some tea or coffee, get to a place of calm, > and > >> then try unsubscribing, reading everything carefully. You may find that > >> this fixes the interface, in a way that shouting doesn't. > >> > >> The amazing thing here is how long the hijack has lasted. > >> > >> Plus, I'm getting that we don't have a moderator who is regularly > >> watching > >> this list and ready to fix problems. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> *From:* Shujen Chang i@blue.cat > >> *To:* Mailing list for Wikiversity wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:28 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: [Wikiversity-l] Wikiversity-l Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 > >> > >> You can just unsubscribe this mail list, if you do not want to receive > >> any > >> letters from the mail list again. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikiversity-l mailing list > >> Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Find me at: > > > > personal blog http://IaskQuestions.com > > gnu/linux user #500092 > > > > > ********************************************************************************************** > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > > If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in > > error) > > please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. > > Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material > > in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. > > > > Diese eMail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte > > Informationen. > > Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese eMail irrtuemlich > > erhalten > > haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese > > Mail. > > Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist > > nicht > > gestattet. > > > ********************************************************************************************** > > > > > -- > +Nyarko Rexford https://plus.google.com/u/0/107174506890941499078 > > _______________________________________________ > Wikiversity-l mailing list > Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l > ********************************************************************************************** This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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