Musopen is a wonderful project, and a perfect fit for us.
When I first heard about this awesome thing a few months ago, my only disappointment was that it was not yet in the Wikimedia family :)
Maybe this could be pursued in terms of reviving the Featured Sounds/Video/Media process on Wikipedia and Commons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Featured_sounds http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_media_candidates http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Media_of_the_day
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
I could imagine that a WikiMusic would make a lot of sense as seperate project and not under the Wikimedia Commons umbrella. This mainly from a community perspective, because I expect that there is a significant number of people specifically interested in music stuff, which perhaps would benifit from having their 'own domain' and not be limited by Wikimedia Commons rules, regulations and behavior. After all, Wikimedia Commons is not the most welcoming and friendly project we have right now (no offence).
Also I can imagine that a seperate Wiki allows for better branding (and involving people) and in the long run for more specialization of the software setup (both the real software and css-stuff) to make it more useful for music. Bug 189 sounds like a great thing to resolve in that context, but I can imagine (not being a music expert) many other improvements to be made to mediawiki compared to the default setup (in the way things are being shown, the buttons available by default, the sidebar etc). Perhaps it would be nice to involve some of the musical experts in our community into this process (like Oscar van Dillen, who jumps to mind)? I know that in the past a WikiMusic project has been proposed a few times as well, maybe you can find some interested people there, too.
In any case it sounds like a great opportunity! I hope it will make it finally to the 11th Wikimedia project.
Best,
Lodewijk
No dia 22 de Novembro de 2011 22:44, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com escreveu:
There is lots of nice sheet music, but I imagine it's nothing that Wikisource couldn't already get its hands on pretty easily. The recorded performances might be more valuable for Commons, but obviously the copyright minutiae for recorded classical music can get very complicated very quickly.
Basically all the content is PD. For sheet music, that means that the original composition *and* the edition published are both PD. For recorded performances, it means that the original composition *and* the actual performance *and* any subsequent technical engineering to the recording are PD.
They basically accomplish this by taking compositions that are pd-old and commissioning people to make new recordings of them, which are then released into the public domain. (Strictly, CC-0 might be more accurate than PD, but I wouldn't argue... Also there are some recordings which are legitimately PD-USGOV)
Their vision is very close to that of the Wikimedia movement, the files they currently have are already well-used on Wikipedia, and I'd actually mused about whether Musopen might be a good candidate for a grant from the Foundation or a Chapter at some stage.
The current "front end" is a much better job of being a music gallery than Commons is so I hope it will remain, at least in the interim.
And while I'm happy to be generally enthusiastic I'm afraid, Erik, I don't have time to commit to anything extra at the minute - though things might be different in January...
Chris
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