Musopen is a wonderful project, and a perfect fit for us.
When I first heard about this awesome thing a few months ago, my only
disappointment was that it was not yet in the Wikimedia family :)
Maybe this could be pursued in terms of reviving the Featured
Sounds/Video/Media process on Wikipedia and Commons.
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:
> I could imagine that a WikiMusic would make a lot of sense as seperate
> project and not under the Wikimedia Commons umbrella. This mainly from a
> community perspective, because I expect that there is a significant number
> of people specifically interested in music stuff, which perhaps would
> benifit from having their 'own domain' and not be limited by Wikimedia
> Commons rules, regulations and behavior. After all, Wikimedia Commons is not
> the most welcoming and friendly project we have right now (no offence).
> Also I can imagine that a seperate Wiki allows for better branding (and
> involving people) and in the long run for more specialization of the
> software setup (both the real software and css-stuff) to make it more useful
> for music. Bug 189 sounds like a great thing to resolve in that context, but
> I can imagine (not being a music expert) many other improvements to be made
> to mediawiki compared to the default setup (in the way things are being
> shown, the buttons available by default, the sidebar etc). Perhaps it would
> be nice to involve some of the musical experts in our community into this
> process (like Oscar van Dillen, who jumps to mind)? I know that in the past
> a WikiMusic project has been proposed a few times as well, maybe you can
> find some interested people there, too.
> In any case it sounds like a great opportunity! I hope it will make it
> finally to the 11th Wikimedia project.
> No dia 22 de Novembro de 2011 22:44, Chris Keating
> <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> escreveu:
>>> There is lots of nice sheet music, but I imagine it's nothing that
>>> Wikisource couldn't already get its hands on pretty easily. The recorded
>>> performances might be more valuable for Commons, but obviously the copyright
>>> minutiae for recorded classical music can get very complicated very quickly.
>> Basically all the content is PD. For sheet music, that means that the
>> original composition *and* the edition published are both PD. For recorded
>> performances, it means that the original composition *and* the actual
>> performance *and* any subsequent technical engineering to the recording are
>> They basically accomplish this by taking compositions that are pd-old and
>> commissioning people to make new recordings of them, which are then released
>> into the public domain. (Strictly, CC-0 might be more accurate than PD, but
>> I wouldn't argue... Also there are some recordings which are legitimately
>> Their vision is very close to that of the Wikimedia movement, the files
>> they currently have are already well-used on Wikipedia, and I'd actually
>> mused about whether Musopen might be a good candidate for a grant from the
>> Foundation or a Chapter at some stage.
>> The current "front end" is a much better job of being a music gallery than
>> Commons is so I hope it will remain, at least in the interim.
>> And while I'm happy to be generally enthusiastic I'm afraid, Erik, I don't
>> have time to commit to anything extra at the minute - though things might be
>> different in January...
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