New subject: [cultural-partners] Moving the Musopen project to Commons

6 Dec 2011

Musopen is a wonderful project, and a perfect fit for us.

When I first heard about this awesome thing a few months ago, my only
disappointment was that it was not yet in the Wikimedia family :)

Maybe this could be pursued in terms of reviving the Featured
Sounds/Video/Media process on Wikipedia and Commons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Featured_sounds
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_media_candidates
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Media_of_the_day

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt; wrote:
...
  I could imagine that a WikiMusic would make a lot of
sense as seperate
 project and not under the Wikimedia Commons umbrella. This mainly from a
 community perspective, because I expect that there is a significant number
 of people specifically interested in music stuff, which perhaps would
 benifit from having their 'own domain' and not be limited by Wikimedia
 Commons rules, regulations and behavior. After all, Wikimedia Commons is not
 the most welcoming and friendly project we have right now (no offence).

 Also I can imagine that a seperate Wiki allows for better branding (and
 involving people) and in the long run for more specialization of the
 software setup (both the real software and css-stuff) to make it more useful
 for music. Bug 189 sounds like a great thing to resolve in that context, but
 I can imagine (not being a music expert) many other improvements to be made
 to mediawiki compared to the default setup (in the way things are being
 shown, the buttons available by default, the sidebar etc). Perhaps it would
 be nice to involve some of the musical experts in our community into this
 process (like Oscar van Dillen, who jumps to mind)? I know that in the past
 a WikiMusic project has been proposed a few times as well, maybe you can
 find some interested people there, too.

 In any case it sounds like a great opportunity! I hope it will make it
 finally to the 11th Wikimedia project.

 Best,

 Lodewijk

 No dia 22 de Novembro de 2011 22:44, Chris Keating
 &lt;chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu:

   There is lots of nice sheet music, but I imagine
it's nothing that
 Wikisource couldn't already get its hands on pretty easily.  The recorded
 performances might be more valuable for Commons, but obviously the copyright
 minutiae for recorded classical music can get very complicated very quickly. 

 Basically all the content is PD. For sheet music, that means that the
 original composition *and* the edition published are both PD. For recorded
 performances, it means that the original composition *and* the actual
 performance *and* any subsequent technical engineering to the recording are
 PD.

 They basically accomplish this by taking compositions that are pd-old and
 commissioning people to make new recordings of them, which are then released
 into the public domain. (Strictly, CC-0 might be more accurate than PD, but
 I wouldn't argue... Also there are some recordings which are legitimately
 PD-USGOV)

 Their vision is very close to that of the Wikimedia movement, the files
 they currently have are already well-used on Wikipedia, and I'd actually
 mused about whether Musopen might be a good candidate for a grant from the
 Foundation or a Chapter at some stage.

 The current "front end" is a much better job of being a music gallery than
 Commons is so I hope it will remain, at least in the interim.

 And while I'm happy to be generally enthusiastic I'm afraid, Erik, I don't
 have time to commit to anything extra at the minute - though things might be
 different in January...

 Chris

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