Hi,
let me invite you to the IRC meeting which will be organized March 1, 2008 upon the discussion on the change of Wikiversity Beta license from GFDL to CC (CC-BY-3.0) as it was proposed. You can visit English page with more information via: http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wik... .
All useres around Wikiversity are inveted so dont forget to translate this invitation to other lanuages.
Regards, Juan (aka ´Juandev´)
Here goes a portuguese translation:
Olá,
Venho convidá-los para aparecer num encontro no IRC que se realizará no dia 1 de Março de 2008 para discutir a mudança da licença Beta da Wikiversity de GFDL para CC (CC-BY-3.0) como foi proposto. Poderão visitar a página inglesa com mais informação aqui: http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wik....
Cumprimentos, Juan (aka 'Juandev')
*end*
I didn't translate the suggestion for translation (last paragraph)
Best,
José Raeiro
Juan de Vojníkov wrote:
Hi,
let me invite you to the IRC meeting which will be organized March 1, 2008 upon the discussion on the change of Wikiversity Beta license from GFDL to CC (CC-BY-3.0) as it was proposed. You can visit English page with more information via: http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wik....
All useres around Wikiversity are inveted so dont forget to translate this invitation to other lanuages.
Regards, Juan (aka ´Juandev´)
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
Bonjour
Laissez moi vous conviez à une réunion sur IRC qui aura lieu le 1 mars 2007 pour discuter sur le changement de la licence de Wikiversité béta de la GFDL vers la CC (CC-by-3.0) telle que cela est proposée. Vous pouvez aller voir sur la page anglophone pour avoir de plus amples information sur : http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wik....
Announcement in de.WV was made already, so here the link to it: http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Cafeteria#IRC_Meeting_-_New_licen...
2008/2/12 David Crochet crochet.david@online.fr:
Bonjour
Laissez moi vous conviez à une réunion sur IRC qui aura lieu le 1 mars 2007 pour discuter sur le changement de la licence de Wikiversité béta de la GFDL vers la CC (CC-by-3.0) telle que cela est proposée. Vous pouvez aller voir sur la page anglophone pour avoir de plus amples information sur :
http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wik... .
-- Cordialement, David Crochet http://motardsdefrance.online.fr (Site de rendez-vous des motards de France) http://david.crochet.online.fr (Road-Book à moto) http://crochet.david.online.fr (Cours de génie électrique et d'électrotechnique)
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
********************************************************************************************** This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
Diese eMail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese eMail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. **********************************************************************************************
What the!? Is wikiversity going CC BY? No SA in there? That's great!!
2008/2/12 Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com:
Announcement in de.WV was made already, so here the link to it:
http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Cafeteria#IRC_Meeting_-_New_licen...
2008/2/12 David Crochet crochet.david@online.fr:
Bonjour
Laissez moi vous conviez à une réunion sur IRC qui aura lieu le 1 mars 2007 pour discuter sur le changement de la licence de Wikiversité béta de la GFDL vers la CC (CC-by-3.0) telle que cela est proposée. Vous pouvez aller voir sur la page anglophone pour avoir de plus amples information sur :
http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wik... .
-- Cordialement, David Crochet http://motardsdefrance.online.fr (Site de rendez-vous des motards de France) http://david.crochet.online.fr (Road-Book à moto) http://crochet.david.online.fr (Cours de génie électrique et d'électrotechnique)
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
Diese eMail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese eMail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet.
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
Hi all,
Please check the resolution of the Wikimedia Foundation's Board about the licence issue:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:License_update
I think it is in everyone's interest that all the WMF projects are using the same licence to make remixing of the content from one project to another possible and simple. A situation where one could not use Wikipedia content inside Wikiversity would be very disturbing.
It is also very important to guarantee that also the derivative works will carry the same freedom the original works do. This has been one of the great design decisions behind the success of Wikipedia, and I do not see any reason why it would not work with Wikiversity, too.
- Teemu
Leigh Blackall kirjoitti 12.2.2008 kello 21:02:
What the!? Is wikiversity going CC BY? No SA in there? That's great!!
2008/2/12 Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com: Announcement in de.WV was made already, so here the link to it: http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Cafeteria#IRC_Meeting_- _New_licence_for_Wikiversity_Beta
2008/2/12 David Crochet crochet.david@online.fr:
Bonjour
Laissez moi vous conviez à une réunion sur IRC qui aura lieu le 1 mars 2007 pour discuter sur le changement de la licence de Wikiversité béta de la GFDL vers la CC (CC-by-3.0) telle que cela est proposée. Vous pouvez aller voir sur la page anglophone pour avoir de plus amples information sur : http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/ Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wikiversity_Beta.
-- Cordialement, David Crochet http://motardsdefrance.online.fr (Site de rendez-vous des motards de France) http://david.crochet.online.fr (Road-Book à moto) http://crochet.david.online.fr (Cours de génie électrique et d'électrotechnique)
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
Diese eMail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese eMail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet.
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
--
Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
While there are some types of content which should be licensed under some CC-BY-like license -- like news, dictionary content or even wiki templates and similar -- I have to say that I didn't find any of those reasons in WV beta license migration proposal.
And licensing other kind of content under non copyleft license is clearly out of the idea which is gathering us inside of Wikimedian community.
You should, also, forward this to foundation-l because this is not only an issue related to Wikiversity, but to the whole Wikimedia.
On Feb 13, 2008 6:29 AM, Teemu Leinonen teemu.leinonen@taik.fi wrote:
Hi all,
Please check the resolution of the Wikimedia Foundation's Board about the licence issue:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:License_update
I think it is in everyone's interest that all the WMF projects are using the same licence to make remixing of the content from one project to another possible and simple. A situation where one could not use Wikipedia content inside Wikiversity would be very disturbing.
It is also very important to guarantee that also the derivative works will carry the same freedom the original works do. This has been one of the great design decisions behind the success of Wikipedia, and I do not see any reason why it would not work with Wikiversity, too.
- TeemuLeigh Blackall kirjoitti 12.2.2008 kello 21:02:
What the!? Is wikiversity going CC BY? No SA in there? That's great!!
2008/2/12 Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com: Announcement in de.WV was made already, so here the link to it: http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Cafeteria#IRC_Meeting_- _New_licence_for_Wikiversity_Beta
2008/2/12 David Crochet crochet.david@online.fr:
Bonjour
Laissez moi vous conviez à une réunion sur IRC qui aura lieu le 1 mars 2007 pour discuter sur le changement de la licence de Wikiversité béta de la GFDL vers la CC (CC-by-3.0) telle que cela est proposée. Vous pouvez aller voir sur la page anglophone pour avoir de plus amples information sur : http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/ Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wikiversity_Beta.
-- Cordialement, David Crochet http://motardsdefrance.online.fr (Site de rendez-vous des motards de France) http://david.crochet.online.fr (Road-Book à moto) http://crochet.david.online.fr (Cours de génie électrique et d'électrotechnique)
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
Diese eMail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese eMail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet.
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
--
Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
Also, your initial document is poorly worded: "Currently most Wikimedia projects offer their content under the terms of "GFDL" licence. A few of them are using licence CC (German Wikiversity and some Wikinews)." -- This doesn't describe that there is a big difference between CC-BY (used by Wikinews because of a particular purpose) and CC-BY-SA (used by German Wikiversity instead of GFDL).
We definitely need a Wikimedia-wide discussion about this issue.
On Feb 13, 2008 6:41 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
While there are some types of content which should be licensed under some CC-BY-like license -- like news, dictionary content or even wiki templates and similar -- I have to say that I didn't find any of those reasons in WV beta license migration proposal.
And licensing other kind of content under non copyleft license is clearly out of the idea which is gathering us inside of Wikimedian community.
You should, also, forward this to foundation-l because this is not only an issue related to Wikiversity, but to the whole Wikimedia.
On Feb 13, 2008 6:29 AM, Teemu Leinonen teemu.leinonen@taik.fi wrote:
Hi all,
Please check the resolution of the Wikimedia Foundation's Board about the licence issue:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:License_update
I think it is in everyone's interest that all the WMF projects are using the same licence to make remixing of the content from one project to another possible and simple. A situation where one could not use Wikipedia content inside Wikiversity would be very disturbing.
It is also very important to guarantee that also the derivative works will carry the same freedom the original works do. This has been one of the great design decisions behind the success of Wikipedia, and I do not see any reason why it would not work with Wikiversity, too.
- TeemuLeigh Blackall kirjoitti 12.2.2008 kello 21:02:
What the!? Is wikiversity going CC BY? No SA in there? That's great!!
2008/2/12 Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com: Announcement in de.WV was made already, so here the link to it: http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Cafeteria#IRC_Meeting_- _New_licence_for_Wikiversity_Beta
2008/2/12 David Crochet crochet.david@online.fr:
Bonjour
Laissez moi vous conviez à une réunion sur IRC qui aura lieu le 1 mars 2007 pour discuter sur le changement de la licence de Wikiversité béta de la GFDL vers la CC (CC-by-3.0) telle que cela est proposée. Vous pouvez aller voir sur la page anglophone pour avoir de plus amples information sur : http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/ Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wikiversity_Beta.
-- Cordialement, David Crochet http://motardsdefrance.online.fr (Site de rendez-vous des motards de France) http://david.crochet.online.fr (Road-Book à moto) http://crochet.david.online.fr (Cours de génie électrique et d'électrotechnique)
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
Diese eMail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese eMail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet.
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
--
Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
Hi last night I had a long discussion with several users. I realised that I was wrong in several issues and I forgot Wikimedia resolution about License update. But I still think there is a place of IRC meeting. So I have changed the page on beta: http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wik...
2008/2/13, Teemu Leinonen teemu.leinonen@taik.fi:
Hi all,
Please check the resolution of the Wikimedia Foundation's Board about the licence issue:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:License_update
I think it is in everyone's interest that all the WMF projects are using the same licence to make remixing of the content from one project to another possible and simple. A situation where one could not use Wikipedia content inside Wikiversity would be very disturbing.
It is also very important to guarantee that also the derivative works will carry the same freedom the original works do. This has been one of the great design decisions behind the success of Wikipedia, and I do not see any reason why it would not work with Wikiversity, too.
- TeemuLeigh Blackall kirjoitti 12.2.2008 kello 21:02:
What the!? Is wikiversity going CC BY? No SA in there? That's great!!
2008/2/12 Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com: Announcement in de.WV was made already, so here the link to it: http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Cafeteria#IRC_Meeting_- _New_licence_for_Wikiversity_Beta
2008/2/12 David Crochet crochet.david@online.fr:
Bonjour
Laissez moi vous conviez à une réunion sur IRC qui aura lieu le 1 mars 2007 pour discuter sur le changement de la licence de Wikiversité béta de la GFDL vers la CC (CC-by-3.0) telle que cela est proposée. Vous pouvez aller voir sur la page anglophone pour avoir de plus amples information sur : http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/ Wikiversity:IRC_meeting:New_licence_for_Wikiversity_Beta.
-- Cordialement, David Crochet http://motardsdefrance.online.fr (Site de rendez-vous des motards de France) http://david.crochet.online.fr (Road-Book à moto) http://crochet.david.online.fr (Cours de génie électrique et d'électrotechnique)
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
Diese eMail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese eMail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet.
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
--
Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org