can anyone recommend efficient ways to search across multiple WM foundation wiki projects?
Hi James,
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:08 AM, James Neill lists@wilderdom.com wrote:
can anyone recommend efficient ways to search across multiple WM foundation wiki projects?
There are a number of cross wiki things that would be nice to do, but I'm not sure there is any feasible way to do them now.
However, it might be a good Summer of Code project, if it can be scoped right.
Gerald.
Hi James,
if there is nothing yet available: a simple heuristic would be: type what you are looking for with the keyword "wiki" and hope that the internet search engine has it archived
Erkan http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Erkan_Yilmaz
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Gerald A geraldablists@gmail.com wrote:
Hi James,
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:08 AM, James Neill lists@wilderdom.com wrote:
can anyone recommend efficient ways to search across multiple WM foundation wiki projects?
There are a number of cross wiki things that would be nice to do, but I'm not sure there is any feasible way to do them now.
However, it might be a good Summer of Code project, if it can be scoped right.
Gerald.
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On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com wrote:
a simple heuristic would be: type what you are looking for with the keyword "wiki" and hope that the internet search engine has it archived
Try appending " site:.org inurl:wiki inurl:en" to google/yahoo search queries. I'll see if I can build a search feed mashup later.
university librarians love promoting federated search - but currently very few universities provide links to WM Foundation projects because they appear to be scattered / uncoordinated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_search
i'd suggest doing this properly and officially, and that every cent invested in what would seem to be a pretty simple task, could then provide a promotional and usability coup for WMF
surely, there's some beta somewhere? (i had a quick search without luck)
draicone@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com wrote:
a simple heuristic would be: type what you are looking for with the keyword "wiki" and hope that the internet search engine has it archived
Try appending " site:.org inurl:wiki inurl:en" to google/yahoo search queries. I'll see if I can build a search feed mashup later.
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"every cent invested" :-)
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:45 PM, James Neill lists@wilderdom.com wrote:
university librarians love promoting federated search - but currently very few universities provide links to WM Foundation projects because they appear to be scattered / uncoordinated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_search
i'd suggest doing this properly and officially, and that every cent invested in what would seem to be a pretty simple task, could then provide a promotional and usability coup for WMF
surely, there's some beta somewhere? (i had a quick search without luck)
draicone@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com erkan77@gmail.com wrote:
a simple heuristic would be: type what you are looking for with the keyword "wiki" and hope that the internet search engine has it archived
Try appending " site:.org inurl:wiki inurl:en" to google/yahoo search queries. I'll see if I can build a search feed mashup later.
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well, i was assuming those fundraising drives go towards employing some people who work on big picture infrastructure cross-project /strategy/ publicity stuff for WMF?? (and suggesting that perhaps federated WMF search could be within their circle of interest)
Erkan Yilmaz wrote:
"every cent invested" :-)
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:45 PM, James Neill <lists@wilderdom.com mailto:lists@wilderdom.com> wrote:
university librarians love promoting federated search - but currently very few universities provide links to WM Foundation projects because they appear to be scattered / uncoordinated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_search i'd suggest doing this properly and officially, and that every cent invested in what would seem to be a pretty simple task, could then provide a promotional and usability coup for WMF surely, there's some beta somewhere? (i had a quick search without luck) draicone@gmail.com <mailto:draicone@gmail.com> wrote:On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Erkan Yilmaz <erkan77@gmail.com> <mailto:erkan77@gmail.com> wrote:a simple heuristic would be: type what you are looking for with the keyword "wiki" and hope that the internet search engine has it archivedTry appending " site:.org inurl:wiki inurl:en" to google/yahoo search queries. I'll see if I can build a search feed mashup later. _______________________________________________ Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l-- Email: james@wilderdom.com <mailto:james@wilderdom.com> Web: http://wilderdom.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jtneill Wiki/blog: http://ucspace.canberra.edu.au/x/fIAeAg Bookmarks: http://del.icio.us/jtneill _______________________________________________ Wikiversity-l mailing list Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l
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Hi James,
On 3/22/08, James Neill lists@wilderdom.com wrote:
well, i was assuming those fundraising drives go towards employing some people who work on big picture infrastructure cross-project /strategy/ publicity stuff for WMF?? (and suggesting that perhaps federated WMF search could be within their circle of interest)
While fund raising does go to some MW initiatives, I know that lots of it goes to cover things like hosting. The truth is, since this is outside of the direct focus of the WMF at the present time, it's unlikely to get any attention in the next 6 months.
That said, I'll say that it _is_ a good time to suggest things, as we're in the week between Google Summer of Code mentor organizations being chosen and the time students can submit proposals opening. (Simmer week, if you will).
I'd be happy to help write up your suggestion, and get it into the suggestion pool. It might also be an idea to mention this on Wikiversity's colloquium, as well as places that coders looking for a summer job might frequent.
And for those who don't know, Google's Summer of Code initiative lets Students work on Open Source projects for money. Wikimedia is a mentoring organization, and so there is no reason this can't be done through it.
Thanks, Gerald.
Hello James,
would you be so kind to list (if not done already) this idea also at: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Technical_needs
That page was recently revived after the note about the Summer of Code in the colloquium: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Colloquium#Summer_of_Code
Greetings from Germany, Erkan http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Erkan_Yilmaz
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Gerald A geraldablists@gmail.com wrote:
Hi James,
On 3/22/08, James Neill lists@wilderdom.com wrote:
well, i was assuming those fundraising drives go towards employing some people who work on big picture infrastructure cross-project /strategy/ publicity stuff for WMF?? (and suggesting that perhaps federated WMF search could be within their circle of interest)
While fund raising does go to some MW initiatives, I know that lots of it goes to cover things like hosting. The truth is, since this is outside of the direct focus of the WMF at the present time, it's unlikely to get any attention in the next 6 months.
That said, I'll say that it _is_ a good time to suggest things, as we're in the week between Google Summer of Code mentor organizations being chosen and the time students can submit proposals opening. (Simmer week, if you will).
I'd be happy to help write up your suggestion, and get it into the suggestion pool. It might also be an idea to mention this on Wikiversity's colloquium, as well as places that coders looking for a summer job might frequent.
And for those who don't know, Google's Summer of Code initiative lets Students work on Open Source projects for money. Wikimedia is a mentoring organization, and so there is no reason this can't be done through it.
Thanks, Gerald.
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hi gerald - that'd be great if you could put it forward - let me know if i can do anything
hi erkan - i added the idea to http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Technical_needs#Other_ideas.2C_un...
*"Federated WM Foundation wiki project search* - a way is needed to search across multiple WikiMedia Foundation wiki projects. It is inefficient and time consuming to search separately on the different domains. See also March, 2008 discussion about this on wikiversity-l http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikiversity-l/2008-March/000385.html -- Jtneill http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Jtneill - Talk http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:Jtneill 16:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)"
Hey, Erkan. Many thx for that link. It is usefull. I associate it with the simillar one on cs.
Juan
2008/3/22, James Neill lists@wilderdom.com:
hi gerald - that'd be great if you could put it forward - let me know if i can do anything
hi erkan - i added the idea to http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Technical_needs#Other_ideas.2C_un...
*"Federated WM Foundation wiki project search* - a way is needed to search across multiple WikiMedia Foundation wiki projects. It is inefficient and time consuming to search separately on the different domains. See also March, 2008 discussion about this on wikiversity-lhttp://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikiversity-l/2008-March/000385.html-- Jtneill http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Jtneill - Talkhttp://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:Jtneill16:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)"
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