This may turn out to be a huge win for free culture if it's administered well. Many of the resulting resources may turn out to be useful for Wikibooks, Wikiversity and Wikimedia Commons. I'm especially pleased that they avoided adding non-commercial use restrictions.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/26100
Indeed!
Does/is WMF preparing a response Erik? And any advice yet on what the Sister Projects can do in preparation, or in making a bid?
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
This may turn out to be a huge win for free culture if it's administered well. Many of the resulting resources may turn out to be useful for Wikibooks, Wikiversity and Wikimedia Commons. I'm especially pleased that they avoided adding non-commercial use restrictions.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/26100
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a general question: how much money is going to be put in Wikiversity anyways (by WMF or whomever)?
see also http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Technical_needs http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Vision/2009 http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Vision/2010
2011/1/20 Leigh Blackall leighblackall@gmail.com
Indeed!
Does/is WMF preparing a response Erik? And any advice yet on what the Sister Projects can do in preparation, or in making a bid?
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
This may turn out to be a huge win for free culture if it's administered well. Many of the resulting resources may turn out to be useful for Wikibooks, Wikiversity and Wikimedia Commons. I'm especially pleased that they avoided adding non-commercial use restrictions.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/26100
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@Erkan. Its written there, they will fund "community collages". I am not sure we are community collage than. But WMF may animate community collage members to use "wiki" - Commons might be enriched with a lot of new education images and videos from which Wikipedia may also benefit.
On the other side Wikiversity would need some programing via extensions or forking from mw, to be easier for the needs of wv communities and potentially to offer those CBTs as reported by Teemu. But before this will be done I think its hard to get more friends from brick and mortar collages. On the other side, just "text based" OERes might be freely deployed to Wikisource, Wikibooks and Wikiversity - collages dont need to develop their projects and all of them can share than.
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2011/1/22 Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com
a general question: how much money is going to be put in Wikiversity anyways (by WMF or whomever)?
see also http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Technical_needs http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Vision/2009 http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Vision/2010
2011/1/20 Leigh Blackall leighblackall@gmail.com
Indeed!
Does/is WMF preparing a response Erik? And any advice yet on what the Sister Projects can do in preparation, or in making a bid?
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
This may turn out to be a huge win for free culture if it's administered well. Many of the resulting resources may turn out to be useful for Wikibooks, Wikiversity and Wikimedia Commons. I'm especially pleased that they avoided adding non-commercial use restrictions.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/26100
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Those pages don't seem to be that up to date. I counted at least two features on that list that were already implemented (and have been implemented for a very long time - the per watchlist rss feed, and the ability to search for things that are in a specific namespace, and a specific category). I imagine there's more if i look closer. Many of the other ideas there are somewhat vauge as to what is actually wanted (although I suppose thats true of most wish lists).
I must say, assuming i understand what is being suggested, the "A non-threatening way for students to upload assignments with a single button and present them in both the page for completed lessons and on the students USER page." idea sounds interesting.
-bawolff p.s. I hope this post isn't offtopic/rambling
2011/1/22 Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com:
a general question: how much money is going to be put in Wikiversity anyways (by WMF or whomever)? see also http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Technical_needs http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Vision/2009 http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Vision/2010
Its interesting to note that the State of California is about to cut $1.4billion from its education budget, believed to be coming straight out of community colleges and the like (UoP bloghttp://universityofthepeople.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/the-effects-of-california%E2%80%99s-proposed-1-4-billion-in-higher-education-budget-cuts/) while the federal budget will give 2 billion to the development of open education. I suppose there's a high chance other states will do something similar, will Michigan be next? ... this 2 billion might be just a beginning... The UK seems to be in a similar boat.
There is still a way to go before the formal education sector recognises Wikipedia, let alone Wikiversity and Book's contribution to people's education. They would sooner recognise mirrors of their own form, such as University of the People, and even Peer to Peer University, and it will be the formal education sector that is consulted on how and where to spend that injection of money. WMF should look to a collective statement with the other open education, libraries and repositories, and networked learning initiatives. In doing so, we'd hope they'd be careful not to restrict the scope of projects, and preserve opportunities in spaces like Wikiversity, for people to work in entirely new ways of learning and education.
As an example, the Massive Open Online Courses (MOOC) are attracting quite a lot of interest now - and Teemu was one of the first to try this model on en.Wikiversity with Composing Free and Open Online Educational Resourceshttp://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Composing_free_and_open_online_educational_resources, I followed with Facilitating Onlinehttp://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Facilitating_Online (originally on Wikieducator). I think early and repeated experiments such as these, offer an opportunity for a quick win with regards to developing legitimacy in the eyes of formal education. Perhaps the model's next phase is in establishing partnerships with Colleges and Universities who will play the role of recognition and certification to these courses, trusting the open and documented work of networked educators offering these open courses and peer reviewed assessment (such as the process of custodianship copying into course assessment for example).
As for post graduate level studies. Same thing. Wikiversity offers a platform and potentially a community, for open and networked research work, peer review and assessment, and even awarding honorary degrees that have some currency with partnering institutions...
At the University of Canberra, in the Faculty of Health, we have a number of academics primed for adopting such practices, but will need significant support to survive the disproportionate levels of scrutiny aimed at innovators. I'm sure there are more in other institutions, I just don't know them. It seems to me, now might be a time to coordinate a plan, resource projects, and offer an alternative to the funding announcement and situation in the USA, the UK, and elsewhere. Then again, I could be firing off too soon again..
Formal education in the West is approaching a tipping point, only a few people and a handful of initiatives are in a position to lead *a* way through the next 10 years
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:29 AM, bawolff <bawolff+wn@gmail.combawolff%2Bwn@gmail.com
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Those pages don't seem to be that up to date. I counted at least two features on that list that were already implemented (and have been implemented for a very long time - the per watchlist rss feed, and the ability to search for things that are in a specific namespace, and a specific category). I imagine there's more if i look closer. Many of the other ideas there are somewhat vauge as to what is actually wanted (although I suppose thats true of most wish lists).
I must say, assuming i understand what is being suggested, the "A non-threatening way for students to upload assignments with a single button and present them in both the page for completed lessons and on the students USER page." idea sounds interesting.
-bawolff p.s. I hope this post isn't offtopic/rambling
2011/1/22 Erkan Yilmaz erkan77@gmail.com:
a general question: how much money is going to be put in Wikiversity anyways (by WMF or whomever)? see also http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Technical_needs http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Vision/2009 http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Vision/2010
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On 20.1.2011, at 23.37, Erik Moeller wrote:
This may turn out to be a huge win for free culture if it's administered well. Many of the resulting resources may turn out to be useful for Wikibooks, Wikiversity and Wikimedia Commons.
This is great news. I think WMF should actively promote its services (Wikimedia Commons, Wikibooks and Wikiversity) as platforms for the content creators to host their media in the WMF servers. I have understood that this is what is also done in the GLAM -projects. Most likely the Commons is the most interesting platform for the content creators but, I think the Wikibooks and the Wikiversity with the "create a book" -feature could be interesting for them too.
With this development there is maybe another chance to clarify the "vision" of the Wikiversity. I think with many of the Wikiversitys there is still the challenge to find what is it for. I would propose that Wikiversity could focus on:
(1) collaborative learning in online courses in the P2PU style (http://p2pu.org/ ), just being more community-driven and open, and
(2) building interactive self-study courses (computer-based training)
In wiki-terminology the first focus means that we use the Wikiversity primary as a "meta", for editing course syllabus and coordinating collaborative activities in the online course. When the liquid threads are in place (soon :-), a large part of the collaborative learning can also be ran on the Wikiversity. Real-time collaboration can also take place with IRC, Skype or with other tools.
To work with the second focus one should have in the Wikiversity tools to build interactive simulations and exercises, such as multiple choice questions, fill-in-the-blanks exercise, and open-ended question with automated or community checking. I don't know well enough the possibilities of the Mediawiki but maybe one may write extensions like this into it.
I'm especially pleased that they avoided adding non-commercial use restrictions.
Me too.
- Teemu
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