Indeed... there is no wikiversity phd. Nor is one planned in the near future in any language, as far as I know. Getting WV courses onto accredited platforms seems like a step towards alignment (or perhaps first: working w/ an existing set of accredited courses and getting their materials onto WV as a non-accredited space to find and learn from those materials!)
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:35 PM Thomas Shafee thomas.shafee@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Amirouche,
It's definitely possible to write articles in WikiJournals without a PhD ( example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.006). External peer reviewers are invited in the same way whether the author is some top prof or an undergrad.
I definitely think that WikiJournal articles can be useful for Wikiversity courses (example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjm/2017.006, example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.005). Bu I think that the two projects have different technical needs.
As far as I know, Wikiversity is currently not accredited in any country - a process usually tightly regulated by governments (Australia example https://www.teqsa.gov.au/). Wikiversity is therefore more like P2PU https://www.p2pu.org/en/about/ than Open University http://www.openuniversity.edu/courses, in that it can offer courses and provide completion badges, but not yet award formal PhDs. I don't now whether there are any users working on it, but accreditation for Wikiversity courses would probably be most easily achieved by partnering with established accredited universities, a bit like coursera https://www.coursera.org/degrees, but that would still be a pretty major project.
Hope that is useful info! All the best, Thomas
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 15:39, Amirouche Boubekki < amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am new to the mailing list and more generaly on wikipedia as
contributor
and as student in wikiversity.
I did not know about WikiJournals as part of Wikiversity. My only remark will be that the wikiveristy PhD program is in poor shape. I was lost in the various tools I had to
use
and broken links. Most if not all conversation are old-ish and doesn't say the PhD program
is
active or working at all. (French wikiveristy is in much better shape).
I am certain that the implementation of wikijournal as sister project
will
have more impact for WikiJournal. My point is with a better english wikiversity, both could have more
impact.
I think, forking wikijournals outside wikiverity will have a bad impact
on
wikiversity.
Also, is it possible to write a publication in the journal without prior PhD? Can publication in the wikijournal help obtain the wikiveristy PhD?
Thanks!
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Samuel Klein, 28/06/19 19:36:
or perhaps first: working w/ an existing set of accredited courses and getting their materials onto WV as a non-accredited space to find and learn from those materials!
This would be a reasonable first step. It's being done in several universities even in Italy (sometimes on WikiToLearn instead).
There are supposedly a lot of OER sitting around, which should be engaged in a conversation on whether they'd be a good fit on Wikibooks or Wikiversity, but most of the self-proclaimed "open" resources actually used unfree licenses so I've always had trouble understanding whether they're serious endeavours or marketing exercises. https://www.oercommons.org/ https://www.cccoer.org/
Federico
From about 2009 - 2012 I was part of a small group attempting to create a
type of networked course around the PhD qualification. Our approach was to draw out some sort of common/standard criteria based on what we could gather at our respective institutions. We also used Open Badges to guide peer to peer assessment and mark milestones. We made it as far as "Candidature". See here: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophy
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 2:37 AM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed... there is no wikiversity phd. Nor is one planned in the near future in any language, as far as I know. Getting WV courses onto accredited platforms seems like a step towards alignment (or perhaps first: working w/ an existing set of accredited courses and getting their materials onto WV as a non-accredited space to find and learn from those materials!)
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:35 PM Thomas Shafee thomas.shafee@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Amirouche,
It's definitely possible to write articles in WikiJournals without a PhD ( example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.006). External peer reviewers are invited in the same way whether the author is some top prof or an undergrad.
I definitely think that WikiJournal articles can be useful for Wikiversity courses (example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjm/2017.006, example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.005). Bu I think that the two projects have different technical needs.
As far as I know, Wikiversity is currently not accredited in any country - a process usually tightly regulated by governments (Australia example https://www.teqsa.gov.au/). Wikiversity is therefore more like P2PU https://www.p2pu.org/en/about/ than Open University http://www.openuniversity.edu/courses, in that it can offer courses and provide completion badges, but not yet award formal PhDs. I don't now whether there are any users working on it, but accreditation for Wikiversity courses would probably be most easily achieved by partnering with established accredited universities, a bit like coursera https://www.coursera.org/degrees, but that would still be a pretty major project.
Hope that is useful info! All the best, Thomas
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 15:39, Amirouche Boubekki < amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am new to the mailing list and more generaly on wikipedia as
contributor
and as student in wikiversity.
I did not know about WikiJournals as part of Wikiversity. My only remark will be that the wikiveristy PhD program is in poor shape. I was lost in the various tools I had to
use
and broken links. Most if not all conversation are old-ish and doesn't say the PhD
program is
active or working at all. (French wikiveristy is in much better shape).
I am certain that the implementation of wikijournal as sister project
will
have more impact for WikiJournal. My point is with a better english wikiversity, both could have more
impact.
I think, forking wikijournals outside wikiverity will have a bad impact
on
wikiversity.
Also, is it possible to write a publication in the journal without prior PhD? Can publication in the wikijournal help obtain the wikiveristy PhD?
Thanks!
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