Hello Colorado Wikipedians!
My apologies that I haven't met many of you before or been very active on this list. I've been editing Wikipedia for 12 years, and living in Colorado for 38. I'm hoping maybe Coloradan to Coloradan you can help me out with some advice.
I've been trying to think of novel micropayment applications, and was thinking it would be really cool if in addition to the "thank" link on diffs there was also a "tip" link to send a small tip to the editor making the tip-worthy edit.
Along these lines, I have three questions/requests.
(1) Can any one envision, or do you have objections to something like this? If I stretch me imagination a bit, I can see some of the objections Wikipedias have raised regarding CoI or other paid-editing scenarios applying here (e.g. it would be a round-about way for entities to pay for editors). I think the incentive of encouraging good edits would out-weigh the risks, and the diffs are the right place to do it (e.g. not on a user page or something like that). What do you think?
(2) What would be the right way to propose such a feature to Wikimeda? If there's no obvious right way, would what be the wrong ways to avoid?
(3) Building on (2) what would be your suggestions on how to develop this with an eye for adoption on Wikipedia? Does it make the most sense to build it on a small independent Mediawiki and then have it ready for adoption on Wikimedia? (what I'm planning to do) or is there something else that makes more sense?
Thanks,
- Craig
Some thoughts, then -
For (1), I'm a bit uncertain if it would actually work for Wikimedia projects - many take very strong stances regarding anything involving money, and the like, but on the other hand I really think your best bet would be to ask the projects themselves directly at some point. It might depend on how it actually works, what the tip means - is it directly money, or something like reddit gold or something, or... I'm not sure.
Whatever the case, though, I think you're probably spot on with (3). Third-party projects would probably have a lot of uses for this sort of thing in general, and perhaps not even the same uses on different projects, so they would not just make good test cases, but actually make it a thing in general and establish different uses that anyone might adopt. And yeah, based on that, I would definitely recommend for (2) to use these as your examples when you make whatever proposals/queries to Wikimedia projects later. Just 'these are some things that work for other projects and how, would you be interested in adopting one of these models or anything like them?' sort of thing, because then you could also probably address actual questions and concerns with real data.
You might also want to make similar queries as this on certain project lists in the meantime, if you haven't already, since they might be able to tell you more about specific needs/concerns to look into as you go.
-I
On 05/01/2019 09:00, Craig Talbert wrote:
Hello Colorado Wikipedians!
My apologies that I haven't met many of you before or been very active on this list. I've been editing Wikipedia for 12 years, and living in Colorado for 38. I'm hoping maybe Coloradan to Coloradan you can help me out with some advice.
I've been trying to think of novel micropayment applications, and was thinking it would be really cool if in addition to the "thank" link on diffs there was also a "tip" link to send a small tip to the editor making the tip-worthy edit.
Along these lines, I have three questions/requests.
(1) Can any one envision, or do you have objections to something like this? If I stretch me imagination a bit, I can see some of the objections Wikipedias have raised regarding CoI or other paid-editing scenarios applying here (e.g. it would be a round-about way for entities to pay for editors). I think the incentive of encouraging good edits would out-weigh the risks, and the diffs are the right place to do it (e.g. not on a user page or something like that). What do you think?
(2) What would be the right way to propose such a feature to Wikimeda? If there's no obvious right way, would what be the wrong ways to avoid?
(3) Building on (2) what would be your suggestions on how to develop this with an eye for adoption on Wikipedia? Does it make the most sense to build it on a small independent Mediawiki and then have it ready for adoption on Wikimedia? (what I'm planning to do) or is there something else that makes more sense?
Thanks,
- Craig
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