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Fwd: HealthPhone: Launch of Internet-in-a-Box
by James Heilman 20 Dec '17

20 Dec '17

Here is a nice email design for promoting IIAB just sent out by our partners at HealthPhone. James ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nand Wadhwani <nand(a)motherchildtrust.org> Date: Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 12:26 AM Subject: HealthPhone: Launch of Internet-in-a-Box To: James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> Our apps are now available on Google Play [image: HealthPhone] <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> Home <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> Languages <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> Topics <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> Launch of Internet-in-a-Box Bringing healthcare information to those who have no Internet [image: Internet-in-a-Box] Dear James, HealthPhone is excited to partner with Wiki Project Med Foundation and launch an offline distribution system for medical content in collaboration with Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB). IIAB is a mini-computer with mobile hotspot that generates a Wi-Fi signal and enables content distribution in places where access to the Internet is limited, controlled or simply unavailable. Within a range of a few hundred meters, up to 32 people can connect to the device with a computer or mobile phone and access or download its content. IIAB does not offer a connection to the Internet or to content beyond that in the Box itself. This initial version of “Internet-in-a-Box” contains all of Wikipedia’s healthcare content in English, Spanish and Arabic, WikEM, content from Practical Action in English and Spanish, and HealthPhone maternal and child health videos. It also functions as a mini app store allowing Wikipedia, HealthPhone and other medical apps to be downloaded and installed offline. [image: Content menu]Putting health information in the hands of those who need it most. The device is being sold for the cost of the hardware (USD40/CAD50) which includes taxes and shipping. The underlying hardware is made by the Raspberry Pi Foundation and all software and content on the device is under an open licence. Wiki Project Med Foundation welcome donations to support further development. Internet-in-a-Box <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> | Alpha <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> | See Online <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> | *Buy/Donate* <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> | Make your own <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> We believe this device has significant potential to benefit the 4 billion+ people globally without Internet access and are working to develop further versions with other languages and types of content. *Kindly forward this announcement widely to your colleagues and networks.* Thank you! be well, nand Looking Forward HealthPhone is working towards a time when every mother and mother-to-be on the planet has a personal library of health and nutrition videos that will provide her with the knowledge she needs to take care of herself and her family. Contact HealthPhone™ Star House, East Wing, Suite 933, 3 Salisbury Road, Kowloon, Hong Kong <https://maps.google.com/?q=3+Salisbury+Road,+Kowloon,+Hong+Kong&entry=gmail…> info(a)healthphone.org [image: Connect with us on Facebook] <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> [image: Follow us on Twitter] <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> [image: Subscribe on YouTube] <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> © 2017 HealthPhone™ You are receiving this e-newsletter as a colleague, supporter, or friend of HealthPhone. Thanks for helping to provide health and nutrition knowledge to those who need it most. forward this email to a friend | update your profile | add us <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/vcard?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a95017&i…> to your address book unsubscribe <https://healthphone.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=d3b356197b18fa9ddf5a9…> jmh649(a)gmail.com from this list. [image: Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp] <http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletter&utm…> -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

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Internet-in-a-Box
by James Heilman 26 Sep '17

26 Sep '17

We have finalized and tested the image for the alpha version of internet-in-a-box. We have purchased 100 units which should be shipped in the next couple of days. Final cost comes in at $33CAD / $27USD per unit. They contain all of WPs healthcare content in English, Arabic, and Spanish plus the ability to download our offline medical apps to your phone. Additional content include practical action, medical videos by healthphone, and openstreetmaps. Hopefully shipping within two weeks. Pre-orders here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmSX2TOhwAhIRCGfkIv2Don5o58vVcv5q… -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

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Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy
by Diptanshu Das 22 Sep '17

22 Sep '17

I would like to bring your attention to the petition https://www.change.org/p/wikipedia-changing-wikipedia-s-article-on-homoeopa… Regards Diptanshu Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.

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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Potential Official Statement
by Rob Besch 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

I could see how there is an interest in providing an official response to the petition, as most other large organizations and networks make such declarations in response to large petitions. However, I believe that part of the beauty of Wikipedia is that there is not an official spokesperson making such statements, and there is a strong negative effect by forcing the famously publicly-crowd-sourced network to choose sides. Such a "press release" to this petition, though it would be backed by strong evidence, could be a dangerous precedent, with future similar statements ostracizing members of our community. Though I agree that there would be far-ranging media exposure to this proposed response, I believe that the message Diptanshu would like to pass along to the petition organizer is best summed up in one of the recent comments to the petition: "There is no need to create a petition to change Wikipedia. The current text is written by people just like ourselves. Anyone can edit Wikipedia to state whatever they can substantiate by reference to reliable sources. The contents of this petition and letter contain sufficient justification to edit wikipedia and state your pov and give the sources for it taken from reliable and authentic authorities writings and so forth. There is no need to seek anyone's permission to do this. Even if there is a clash between your biews and those of others who believe homeothepay is a "quack", one can register one's views, quoting these reliable sources, as an alternative and more acceptable pov. At worst, one can present it as a "controversy" which gives equal exposure to both views and allows the reader to make up their minds or to look into the sources quoted in order to find out more." -Sean Jones As a result, I'd argue it isn't necessary for us to respond, and actually don't believe that we could respond in any official capacity on behalf of Wikipedia. However, if we theoretically did, I'd move for something witty similar to what Peter wrote. Would appreciate others' thoughts on this, R On Sep 20, 2017 02:47, <wikimedia-medicine-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: Send Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list submissions to wikimedia-medicine(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-medicine-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-medicine-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-Medicine digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy (Diptanshu Das) 2. Re: Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy (Peter Southwood) 3. Re: Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy (Sean Jones) 4. Re: Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy (Diptanshu Das) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:45:49 +0530 From: Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> To: Wiki Medicine discussion <wikimedia-medicine(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, wjmboard <wjmboard(a)googlegroups.com> Subject: [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy Message-ID: <CADcdAx-nSVB95ExEYbp52Duf2to-U75b3Z3pzxsriJOX8ku0Hw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I would like to bring your attention to the petition https://www.change.org/p/wikipedia-changing-wikipedia- s-article-on-homoeopathy Regards Diptanshu Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.

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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Wikimedia-Medicine Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4
by Rob Besch 20 Sep '17

20 Sep '17

I agree with Sean, But would like to point out again that he did already post a comment to the petitioner's page to explain the process of Wikipedia editing, which I believe is as close as can be to Diptanshu's suggestion of reaching out to the petitioner's with the information contained in this thread. Which again (thanks to Sean) is publicly posted on said petitioner's page as: "There is no need to create a petition to change Wikipedia. The current text is written by people just like ourselves. Anyone can edit Wikipedia to state whatever they can substantiate by reference to reliable sources. The contents of this petition and letter contain sufficient justification to edit wikipedia and state your pov and give the sources for it taken from reliable and authentic authorities writings and so forth. There is no need to seek anyone's permission to do this. Even if there is a clash between your biews and those of others who believe homeothepay is a "quack", one can register one's views, quoting these reliable sources, as an alternative and more acceptable pov. At worst, one can present it as a "controversy" which gives equal exposure to both views and allows the reader to make up their minds or to look into the sources quoted in order to find out more" On Sep 20, 2017 05:15, <wikimedia-medicine-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: Send Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list submissions to wikimedia-medicine(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-medicine-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-medicine-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-Medicine digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy (Diptanshu Das) 2. Re: Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy (Cristian PSG) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:24:47 +0530 From: Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> To: Wiki Medicine discussion <wikimedia-medicine(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article on Homeopathy Message-ID: <CADcdAx92sH0oKLiGMTVNaOABt3jM8jBXdpwLuBp4hUWPFnTenA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I am not the petitioner. The petitioner is not present in is group and therefore cannot read the discussions here. The petitioner possibly does not even know how to read or participate in discussions related to pages or topics. It is futile to discuss among ourselves. Would somebody like to reach out to the petitioner with the information contained in this discussion thread? Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. On 20 September 2017 at 13:48, Sean Jones <seanj(a)losmasos.com> wrote: > Ha ha. The issue is not having a petition to force anyone to do anything, > but presenting our views on Wikipedia to counter the views of homeopathy’s > critics. It is an open source of debate. If you have an issue about the law > of gravity you are welcome to compose an article on it and post it to > Wikipedia. I am sure there is someone who has posted an article about > Flat-earthers already, either for or against. All ideas are welcome – it is > an encyclopedia written for the people by the people, and hopefully written > by people who know what they are talking about on their particular subject. > All views are welcome, provided that they are cited from reliable and > authentic published sources. So those who want to challenge what they > consider the wrong views of those who have posted their persona (or > official) views denigrating Homeopathy are now required to simply log in to > Wikipedia and present their refutation of those wrong views, based on > irrefutable citations from published sources. That’s all you need to do, so > just get on with it instead of mumbling amongst yourselves about how unfair > it is and organising a petition to an authority that does not exist. > > > > *From:* Wikimedia-Medicine [mailto:wikimedia-medicine- > bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Peter Southwood > *Sent:* 20 September 2017 00:11 > *To:* 'Wiki Medicine discussion' > *Subject:* Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia > article on Homeopathy > > > > Maybe next they will have a petition to repeal the law of gravity > > Cheers, > > P > > > > *From:* Wikimedia-Medicine [mailto:wikimedia-medicine- > bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Diptanshu Das > *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 September 2017 7:16 PM > *To:* Wiki Medicine discussion; wjmboard > *Subject:* [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article > on Homeopathy > > > > I would like to bring your attention to the petition > > https://www.change.org/p/wikipedia-changing-wikipedia- > s-article-on-homoeopathy > > > > Regards > > Diptanshu > > > > Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email& utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email& utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list > Wikimedia-Medicine(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine > >

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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Paraphrasing tool
by Diptanshu Das 27 Aug '17

27 Aug '17

All I found was that this paraphrasing tool works better than the others that one could obtain on a Google search. I do not mean to say that it will substitute a human effort. Nevertheless, it might still be better than nothing. In uncomplicated cases it could possibly still give a reasonably good output. Human discretion still would be essential else we would "no longer know that the dog is brown". James: I doubt if legalities would be an issue. In effect it is a derivative work. Is a manual translation not a derivative work as well? Regards Diptanshu Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. On 27 August 2017 at 13:49, john <jtcathey(a)gmail.com> wrote: > And removes possibly important adjectives. We no longer know that the dog > is brown. > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 14:09 James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Doing word substitution is not enough to get around "copy and paste" >> issues. It may make them harder to detect but legally it does not solve the >> problem. >> >> J >> >> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 5:08 AM, john <jtcathey(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It just substitutes words from a thesaurus, no sentence or paragraph >>> restructuring. That would take AI I suppose. >>> >>> "The snappy dark colored fox bounces over the apathetic pooch" >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:51 PM Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I find this machine translation to be impressive indeed. With a bit of >>>> application of mind we might need to work a lot less. Thanks Gwinyai for >>>> providing the machine output. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Diptanshu >>>> >>>> >>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>> >>>> On 26 August 2017 at 18:17, Gwinyai Masukume <parturitions(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have explored different avenues regarding this administration. I >>>>> discovered it some way or another better than other comparable rewording >>>>> devices. Obviously you would at present need to apply your minds to check >>>>> whether they have picked the correct option words. Else your grin could >>>>> progress toward becoming another person's smile. Your lawful firm could >>>>> move toward becoming 'honest to goodness unbending nature' (whatever that >>>>> may mean).. et cetera. >>>>> >>>>> By and by it makes a decent showing with regards to like or superior >>>>> to anything the interpretation done by Google decipher. >>>>> >>>>> Respects >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Diptanshu Das < >>>>> das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have experimented with this service. I found it somehow superior to >>>>>> other similar paraphrasing tools. Of course you would still have to apply >>>>>> your wits to check whether they have chosen the right alternative words. >>>>>> Else your smile could become somebody else's grin. Your legal firm could >>>>>> become 'legitimate rigidity' (whatever that might mean).. and so on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nevertheless it does a good job similar to or better than the >>>>>> translation done by Google translate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 August 2017 at 17:45, James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hum. Machine paraphrasing? Better to have humans do it I think. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Diptanshu Das < >>>>>>> das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, they are not likely to have any copyright over the rephrased >>>>>>>> sentences. The sentences are machine generated and therefore not an >>>>>>>> intellectual work and therefore not under purview of intellectual property >>>>>>>> protection. A confirmation can still be sought by writing to >>>>>>>> support(a)spinbot.com . Nevertheless, the tool produced by this >>>>>>>> company definitely is their intellectual property and we cannot 'copy' the >>>>>>>> tool. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just wondering, if I am using Microsoft word to compose and MS Word >>>>>>>> Autocorrect gives a modification suggestion, does Microsoft own the >>>>>>>> copyright for the re-engineered sentence accepted by me as per its >>>>>>>> suggestion? Surely not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The entire thing is as per my understanding. If anybody finds a >>>>>>>> lacuna, please feel free to point it out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26 August 2017 at 14:18, Shani Evenstein <shani.even(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wonderful. Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>>>> I wonder though, this is a .com company. Doesn't that mean that >>>>>>>>> they'll have copyrights of the rephrased sentences? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Shani. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Diptanshu Das < >>>>>>>>> das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to draw attention to a paraphrasing tool available >>>>>>>>>> at: >>>>>>>>>> http://paraphrasing-tool.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I found that it paraphrases reasonably well. It can be of good >>>>>>>>>> utility in cases of copy-vio or where tools to check plagiarism give >>>>>>>>>> suspicious response. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Diptanshu >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia-Medicine(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "wijoumed" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to wijoumed+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to wijoumed(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CAEPMZQVp- >>>>>>>>> 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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Paraphrasing tool
by James Heilman 27 Aug '17

27 Aug '17

Doing word substitution is not enough to get around "copy and paste" issues. It may make them harder to detect but legally it does not solve the problem. J On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 5:08 AM, john <jtcathey(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It just substitutes words from a thesaurus, no sentence or paragraph > restructuring. That would take AI I suppose. > > "The snappy dark colored fox bounces over the apathetic pooch" > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:51 PM Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I find this machine translation to be impressive indeed. With a bit of >> application of mind we might need to work a lot less. Thanks Gwinyai for >> providing the machine output. >> >> Regards >> Diptanshu >> >> >> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >> >> On 26 August 2017 at 18:17, Gwinyai Masukume <parturitions(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I have explored different avenues regarding this administration. I >>> discovered it some way or another better than other comparable rewording >>> devices. Obviously you would at present need to apply your minds to check >>> whether they have picked the correct option words. Else your grin could >>> progress toward becoming another person's smile. Your lawful firm could >>> move toward becoming 'honest to goodness unbending nature' (whatever that >>> may mean).. et cetera. >>> >>> By and by it makes a decent showing with regards to like or superior to >>> anything the interpretation done by Google decipher. >>> >>> Respects >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have experimented with this service. I found it somehow superior to >>>> other similar paraphrasing tools. Of course you would still have to apply >>>> your wits to check whether they have chosen the right alternative words. >>>> Else your smile could become somebody else's grin. Your legal firm could >>>> become 'legitimate rigidity' (whatever that might mean).. and so on. >>>> >>>> Nevertheless it does a good job similar to or better than the >>>> translation done by Google translate. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>> >>>> On 26 August 2017 at 17:45, James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hum. Machine paraphrasing? Better to have humans do it I think. >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Diptanshu Das < >>>>> das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, they are not likely to have any copyright over the rephrased >>>>>> sentences. The sentences are machine generated and therefore not an >>>>>> intellectual work and therefore not under purview of intellectual property >>>>>> protection. A confirmation can still be sought by writing to >>>>>> support(a)spinbot.com . Nevertheless, the tool produced by this >>>>>> company definitely is their intellectual property and we cannot 'copy' the >>>>>> tool. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just wondering, if I am using Microsoft word to compose and MS Word >>>>>> Autocorrect gives a modification suggestion, does Microsoft own the >>>>>> copyright for the re-engineered sentence accepted by me as per its >>>>>> suggestion? Surely not. >>>>>> >>>>>> The entire thing is as per my understanding. If anybody finds a >>>>>> lacuna, please feel free to point it out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 August 2017 at 14:18, Shani Evenstein <shani.even(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wonderful. Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>> I wonder though, this is a .com company. Doesn't that mean that >>>>>>> they'll have copyrights of the rephrased sentences? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Shani. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Diptanshu Das < >>>>>>> das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to draw attention to a paraphrasing tool available at: >>>>>>>> http://paraphrasing-tool.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I found that it paraphrases reasonably well. It can be of good >>>>>>>> utility in cases of copy-vio or where tools to check plagiarism give >>>>>>>> suspicious response. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Diptanshu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list >>>>>>>> Wikimedia-Medicine(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "wijoumed" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to wijoumed+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to wijoumed(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CAEPMZQVp-Co3gx6Fz_4nWEx% >>>>>>> 3D432X0Dyt1L2Uh0VPffOM8Wi2VQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CAEPMZQVp-Co3gx6Fz_4nWEx%3D432X0…> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "wijoumed" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to wijoumed+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to wijoumed(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>>> msgid/wijoumed/CADcdAx-9RizqmHXcfRBTbT6MoBKGhGM9Tb% >>>>>> 3D%2BvKzaWUdnGXUQoQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CADcdAx-9RizqmHXcfRBTbT6MoBKGhGM…> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> James Heilman >>>>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>>>> >>>>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "wjmboard" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to wjmboard+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to wjmboard(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>> msgid/wjmboard/CAF1en7URphsGztWH2oPEJTDvVpAg6 >>>>> dR2Dos0p%3DcPaxOfsb%2BwLA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wjmboard/CAF1en7URphsGztWH2oPEJTDvVpAg6dR…> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "wjmboard" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to wjmboard+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to wjmboard(a)googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>> msgid/wjmboard/CADcdAx_4r5K6OaAs0aUciZijyvkXegeWP9E2h >>>> 2HyU_zejMu1Pw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wjmboard/CADcdAx_4r5K6OaAs0aUciZijyvkXege…> >>>> . >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "wijoumed" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to wijoumed+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to wijoumed(a)googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >> msgid/wijoumed/CADcdAx8uSFSEX7vjSkxEbGDisCD63pp-UB8cW1MM%3Do9uT57FfA% >> 40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CADcdAx8uSFSEX7vjSkxEbGDisCD63pp…> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "wijoumed" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to wijoumed+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to wijoumed(a)googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/wijoumed/CAFp9njT6HdOj9F5sgnKtcz6BsjBoNv2bsvFKA-CTW93rx%2BZDfQ% > 40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CAFp9njT6HdOj9F5sgnKtcz6BsjBoNv2…> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine

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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Paraphrasing tool
by Diptanshu Das 26 Aug '17

26 Aug '17

I find this machine translation to be impressive indeed. With a bit of application of mind we might need to work a lot less. Thanks Gwinyai for providing the machine output. Regards Diptanshu Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. On 26 August 2017 at 18:17, Gwinyai Masukume <parturitions(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have explored different avenues regarding this administration. I > discovered it some way or another better than other comparable rewording > devices. Obviously you would at present need to apply your minds to check > whether they have picked the correct option words. Else your grin could > progress toward becoming another person's smile. Your lawful firm could > move toward becoming 'honest to goodness unbending nature' (whatever that > may mean).. et cetera. > > By and by it makes a decent showing with regards to like or superior to > anything the interpretation done by Google decipher. > > Respects > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I have experimented with this service. I found it somehow superior to >> other similar paraphrasing tools. Of course you would still have to apply >> your wits to check whether they have chosen the right alternative words. >> Else your smile could become somebody else's grin. Your legal firm could >> become 'legitimate rigidity' (whatever that might mean).. and so on. >> >> Nevertheless it does a good job similar to or better than the translation >> done by Google translate. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >> >> On 26 August 2017 at 17:45, James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hum. Machine paraphrasing? Better to have humans do it I think. >>> >>> James >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> No, they are not likely to have any copyright over the rephrased >>>> sentences. The sentences are machine generated and therefore not an >>>> intellectual work and therefore not under purview of intellectual property >>>> protection. A confirmation can still be sought by writing to >>>> support(a)spinbot.com . Nevertheless, the tool produced by this company >>>> definitely is their intellectual property and we cannot 'copy' the tool. >>>> >>>> Just wondering, if I am using Microsoft word to compose and MS Word >>>> Autocorrect gives a modification suggestion, does Microsoft own the >>>> copyright for the re-engineered sentence accepted by me as per its >>>> suggestion? Surely not. >>>> >>>> The entire thing is as per my understanding. If anybody finds a lacuna, >>>> please feel free to point it out. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>> >>>> On 26 August 2017 at 14:18, Shani Evenstein <shani.even(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wonderful. Thanks for sharing. >>>>> I wonder though, this is a .com company. Doesn't that mean that >>>>> they'll have copyrights of the rephrased sentences? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Shani. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Diptanshu Das < >>>>> das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to draw attention to a paraphrasing tool available at: >>>>>> http://paraphrasing-tool.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> I found that it paraphrases reasonably well. It can be of good >>>>>> utility in cases of copy-vio or where tools to check plagiarism give >>>>>> suspicious response. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Diptanshu >>>>>> >>>>>> Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list >>>>>> Wikimedia-Medicine(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "wijoumed" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to wijoumed+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to wijoumed(a)googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CAEPMZQVp-Co3gx6F >>>>> z_4nWEx%3D432X0Dyt1L2Uh0VPffOM8Wi2VQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CAEPMZQVp-Co3gx6Fz_4nWEx%3D432X0…> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "wijoumed" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to wijoumed+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to wijoumed(a)googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms >>>> gid/wijoumed/CADcdAx-9RizqmHXcfRBTbT6MoBKGhGM9Tb%3D%2BvKzaWU >>>> dnGXUQoQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wijoumed/CADcdAx-9RizqmHXcfRBTbT6MoBKGhGM…> >>>> . >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> James Heilman >>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>> >>> The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "wjmboard" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to wjmboard+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to wjmboard(a)googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms >>> gid/wjmboard/CAF1en7URphsGztWH2oPEJTDvVpAg6dR2Dos0p%3DcPaxOf >>> sb%2BwLA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wjmboard/CAF1en7URphsGztWH2oPEJTDvVpAg6dR…> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "wjmboard" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to wjmboard+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to wjmboard(a)googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms >> gid/wjmboard/CADcdAx_4r5K6OaAs0aUciZijyvkXegeWP9E2h2HyU_ >> zejMu1Pw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wjmboard/CADcdAx_4r5K6OaAs0aUciZijyvkXege…> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >

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Paraphrasing tool
by Diptanshu Das 26 Aug '17

26 Aug '17

Hi I would like to draw attention to a paraphrasing tool available at: http://paraphrasing-tool.com/ I found that it paraphrases reasonably well. It can be of good utility in cases of copy-vio or where tools to check plagiarism give suspicious response. Regards Diptanshu Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.

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Changing roles
by James Heilman 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Hey All I am excited to have rejoined the board of the WMF during Wikimania. As per the requirements of the position I have stepped down from the board of WPMEDF. Shani Evenstein has taken over the role of chair. I will remain associated with the organization as a special advisory and funder. I have also not re-run for the board of WMCA but am leaving that organization in the excellent hands of Benoit and the rest of the board. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine

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