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I could see how there is an interest in providing an official response to
the petition, as most other large organizations and networks make such
declarations in response to large petitions. However, I believe that part
of the beauty of Wikipedia is that there is not an official spokesperson
making such statements, and there is a strong negative effect by forcing
the famously publicly-crowd-sourced network to choose sides. Such a "press
release" to this petition, though it would be backed by strong evidence,
could be a dangerous precedent, with future similar statements ostracizing
members of our community.
Though I agree that there would be far-ranging media exposure to this
proposed response, I believe that the message Diptanshu would like to pass
along to the petition organizer is best summed up in one of the recent
comments to the petition:
"There is no need to create a petition to change Wikipedia. The current
text is written by people just like ourselves. Anyone can edit Wikipedia to
state whatever they can substantiate by reference to reliable sources. The
contents of this petition and letter contain sufficient justification to
edit wikipedia and state your pov and give the sources for it taken from
reliable and authentic authorities writings and so forth. There is no need
to seek anyone's permission to do this. Even if there is a clash between
your biews and those of others who believe homeothepay is a "quack", one
can register one's views, quoting these reliable sources, as an alternative
and more acceptable pov. At worst, one can present it as a "controversy"
which gives equal exposure to both views and allows the reader to make up
their minds or to look into the sources quoted in order to find out more."
-Sean Jones
As a result, I'd argue it isn't necessary for us to respond, and actually
don't believe that we could respond in any official capacity on behalf of
Wikipedia. However, if we theoretically did, I'd move for something witty
similar to what Peter wrote.
Would appreciate others' thoughts on this,
R
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Subject: [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article
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I would like to bring your attention to the petition
https://www.change.org/p/wikipedia-changing-wikipedia-
s-article-on-homoeopathy
Regards
Diptanshu
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I agree with Sean,
But would like to point out again that he did already post a comment to the
petitioner's page to explain the process of Wikipedia editing, which I
believe is as close as can be to Diptanshu's suggestion of reaching out to
the petitioner's with the information contained in this thread. Which again
(thanks to Sean) is publicly posted on said petitioner's page as:
"There is no need to create a petition to change Wikipedia. The current
text is written by people just like ourselves. Anyone can edit Wikipedia to
state whatever they can substantiate by reference to reliable sources. The
contents of this petition and letter contain sufficient justification to
edit wikipedia and state your pov and give the sources for it taken from
reliable and authentic authorities writings and so forth. There is no need
to seek anyone's permission to do this. Even if there is a clash between
your biews and those of others who believe homeothepay is a "quack", one
can register one's views, quoting these reliable sources, as an alternative
and more acceptable pov. At worst, one can present it as a "controversy"
which gives equal exposure to both views and allows the reader to make up
their minds or to look into the sources quoted in order to find out more"
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:24:47 +0530
From: Diptanshu Das <das.diptanshu(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia
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I am not the petitioner. The petitioner is not present in is group and
therefore cannot read the discussions here. The petitioner possibly does
not even know how to read or participate in discussions related to pages or
topics. It is futile to discuss among ourselves. Would somebody like to
reach out to the petitioner with the information contained in this
discussion thread?
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On 20 September 2017 at 13:48, Sean Jones <seanj(a)losmasos.com> wrote:
> Ha ha. The issue is not having a petition to force anyone to do anything,
> but presenting our views on Wikipedia to counter the views of
homeopathy’s
> critics. It is an open source of debate. If you have an issue about the
law
> of gravity you are welcome to compose an article on it and post it to
> Wikipedia. I am sure there is someone who has posted an article about
> Flat-earthers already, either for or against. All ideas are welcome – it
is
> an encyclopedia written for the people by the people, and hopefully
written
> by people who know what they are talking about on their particular
subject.
> All views are welcome, provided that they are cited from reliable and
> authentic published sources. So those who want to challenge what they
> consider the wrong views of those who have posted their persona (or
> official) views denigrating Homeopathy are now required to simply log in
to
> Wikipedia and present their refutation of those wrong views, based on
> irrefutable citations from published sources. That’s all you need to do,
so
> just get on with it instead of mumbling amongst yourselves about how
unfair
> it is and organising a petition to an authority that does not exist.
>
>
>
> *From:* Wikimedia-Medicine [mailto:wikimedia-medicine-
> bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Peter Southwood
> *Sent:* 20 September 2017 00:11
> *To:* 'Wiki Medicine discussion'
> *Subject:* Re: [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia
> article on Homeopathy
>
>
>
> Maybe next they will have a petition to repeal the law of gravity
>
> Cheers,
>
> P
>
>
>
> *From:* Wikimedia-Medicine [mailto:wikimedia-medicine-
> bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Diptanshu Das
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 September 2017 7:16 PM
> *To:* Wiki Medicine discussion; wjmboard
> *Subject:* [Wiki-Medicine] Petition pertaining to the Wikipedia article
> on Homeopathy
>
>
>
> I would like to bring your attention to the petition
>
> https://www.change.org/p/wikipedia-changing-wikipedia-
> s-article-on-homoeopathy
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Diptanshu
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