On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Gavin Baker gavin@gavinbaker.com wrote:
Not to be rude, but these discussions are exactly why I was hoping you'd start an announce list. I'm interested in your events and major news but not the decision-making. I suspect there are others like me.
+1 (I hear your concerns)
Here's our request for the announce list:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28944
I'll bug people to get this implemented ASAP.
Cheers, Katie
On 05/11/2011 10:36 PM, Aude wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Kat Walsh <kat@mindspillage.org mailto:kat@mindspillage.org> wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:48 PM, James Hare <jamesmhare@gmail.com <mailto:jamesmhare@gmail.com>> wrote: > I suppose I would've caused much less outrage if I limited the > resolution to "The Treasurer is authorized to spend $96 to go renta
> PO Box somewhere" but I think it's fair for people to know wherethe
> PO Box is and what exactly we're getting out of our money. Conversely, > if I had limited it to "we're getting the small PO Box at the > Friendship Post Office" then there would've been the question "but how > much does it cost?" There would also be the legal question of the > Treasurer being able to spend corporate dollars without being > explicitly authorized to do so (given the present lack of budget).So
> while the text of the resolution may be a bit ridiculous, I'mtrying
> to be as specific as possible in the interest of transparency. By > debating the sausage making on the mailing list, we can use our > in-person meetings for things that are more important and more fun > than debating back-office matters. I do agree that it's good to make the details transparent, but I too think that this is more specific than you generally want for a resolution. Playing "what if": the Post Office has a budget crisis, and beforeyou
go to actually get the box, prices are raised to $100 annually! The Friendship Heights post office moves next door and gets a newaddress!
The "small" boxes are being taken out for wall repairs, but they'll rent you a medium for the same price! You, being diligent in your duties, are on your way to rent the box--or renew it next year--when you discover one of these things, and now you are deeply concerned, because even though these are trivial matters, they're in conflictand
require the resolution to be amended. What I might do is resolve to rent the box and spend no more than, say, $110, without revisiting the resolution, and in the resolution refer to another document that contains the juicy^W less-important details: that the address of the box must be kept publicly on the website and in the org's records, what specific size and box number you actually got, etc. (You might also want to clarify whether "for a yearlong period" means "for this year only" or "indefinitely, for a year at a time, as long as the other conditions apply".)I support this and allowing a little bit of flexibility, such as "a Post Office in the District of Columbia, spending no more than $110".
Cheers, Katie
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